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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sheepish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 19:48
What I’ve found fascinating about the league this year is that there really are no bad teams. I think some sides may feel they’ve underperformed a little, but take Barnes as an example. They’ve had some fantastic results and even when we were on top on Saturday we (Rams) make one mistake and Robbie Martey is scoring in the corner, from which Hammett slots a wonderful conversion. There have been some excellent one-off performances too, including from your guys Darth. So I think the top two sides will be the ones that can string together some consistency in the last 10 games. I hope it’s us but we have tough fixtures coming up, starting with Guernsey this week.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Darth Raider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 23:06
It's good that you are not over confident Sheepish......but frankly.....if Rams don't win the title this year somebody should be shot.  There is not a pack in our league that can match Rams for 80mins....as long as your lads maintain their intensity and don't get too expansive too soon in any given game, then they should win every remaining fixture IMO.  
Next year will be an interesting challenge for the club.....mid-table would be very good methinks ?

Second place in our league has already been much discussed.....and will be interesting to watch.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sheepish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 14:59
Your question mark after "methinks" got me thinking a lot too Darth, so sorry for the delay but here is the sum of much mental gymnastics - "yes" (i.e. mid table would be good) - but 10 sides will have something to say about where we finish, including your boys, so forgive me for qualifying this statement, and believe me I would rather be 16 points clear than not, and I reckon if you are going to have an advantage then defense and the pack is the best place to have them, but for us this is nosebleed territory in the rarefied air - we didn't expect to be here - quite genuinely - so we are all a bit stunned really, and that is quite genuine. Notwithstanding this, I accept that if we blow this then someone is likely to be led out blindfold for suitable punishment (I am sure Jester and Clive Norling will be lining them up :))
This week will be interesting. Titans v Hawks at Dry Leas looks a fascinating encounter. Hard to predict. I think Mr Kingdom's boot may decide that


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Originally posted by Darth Raider Darth Raider wrote:

but frankly.....if Rams don't win the title this year somebody should be shot.  There is not a pack in our league that can match Rams for 80mins....as long as your lads maintain their intensity and don't get too expansive too soon in any given game, then they should win every remaining fixture IMO.  


Our run in is considerably harder than Canterbury's but if we keep the same intensity for the remaining games, I find it hard to disagree with your comments.

If we are successful and go to National 1, personally, as I was in our first season in Nat 2 South, if we're 14th with 1 minute left in our 30th game and a minute later we're 13th, I'll be happy ....

We'll need to be 5% fitter, stronger and quicker, so our S/C team will be busy over the summer but nothing changes in 15 a side rugby, if your scrum, lineout and driving maul are good backed by a miserly defence, you'll be in with a shout in a lot of games.

However, in the tried and trusted management speak, take each game on it's merits and Saturday brings Guernsey, who have won two on the bounce and as we have found with the majority of teams when they are at home to RAMS, they all raise their game significantly when playing us, so we under estimate at our peril, treat them with respect (we have by naming our strongest side available at the moment), play at 100% and hopefully we should get another win but we take nothing for granted, as that is a recipe for failure!
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I would suggest a fair number of us watchers had Rams as nailed on for first or second but the humble murmurings of the Rams faithful in not getting carried away; taking one game at a time and treating the opposition with respect is good to hear and deserves its reward.
For me what has been surprising is the number of clubs in the chasing pack and the fact they are all still in with a great chance of nicking second at this stage of the season.
Equally the gap to the rest is disappointing and scary as any could be sucked into a relegation scrap.
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There is a strange set of circumstances developing,  which probably has plenty of precedent, it's just that I can't recall it Tongue.  

Around this time of the season, there are often a whole clutch of mid-table sides who have little left to play for.  THese are the (very slightly) less motivated sides that both the top and bottom teams want to be playing.

This year.......we have the usual three a bit detached at the bottom, but who know that with a run of wins, anything is still possible (Old Reds last year ?).
Then we have 5 sides at the top who will feel that they cannot afford to drop a point (note TJ's have started picking up TBP's Shocked

The last ingredient is all the mid-table sides who do NOT have enough points to feel safe.   Just a 13pt gap between 13th and that fateful 14th spot at the moment,  which could close quite quickly.  

Perversely then, this is not actually good news for the top and bottom segments......I know that there never are, but there will be NO easy games on the run-in this year.  It will be all to play for for all teams for a good while yet I suspect.  Clap

One of the Rams posters suggested that teams ramp up their performances against them.  In my experience......that is not usually true at this time of year.  Injury stricken sides,  struggling for survival, instead, pick weaker teams for fixtures they think it very unlikely that they will win and indeed,  could incur further injuries from.   So when runaway league leaders arrive with a big and dominant pack  (see Cinderford last year),  you don't necessarily pick your strongest side.  Save that for a much more winnable fixture the following week.  Just sensible husbanding of resources. 

I suspect that nobody has that luxury this year, except maybe against Rams.   
  
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Darth. 

Hearing talk that Kiba Richards playing No 8 tomorrow. Any truth in rumour?!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jester10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 16:59
Originally posted by Wigwam Wigwam wrote:

I would suggest a fair number of us watchers had Rams as nailed on for first or second but the humble murmurings of the Rams faithful in not getting carried away; taking one game at a time and treating the opposition with respect is good to hear and deserves its reward.
For me what has been surprising is the number of clubs in the chasing pack and the fact they are all still in with a great chance of nicking second at this stage of the season.
Equally the gap to the rest is disappointing and scary as any could be sucked into a relegation scrap.

The "P" word is banned at Rams, it's a bit like mentioning the Dark Lord by name in Harry Potter. At the moment the only mathematical certainty for Rams is that we can't get relegated Smile
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Originally posted by paddym paddym wrote:

Darth. 

Hearing talk that Kiba Richards playing No 8 tomorrow. Any truth in rumour?!


Played there last week, so could be true.
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Originally posted by Jester10 Jester10 wrote:

Originally posted by Wigwam Wigwam wrote:

I would suggest a fair number of us watchers had Rams as nailed on for first or second but the humble murmurings of the Rams faithful in not getting carried away; taking one game at a time and treating the opposition with respect is good to hear and deserves its reward.
For me what has been surprising is the number of clubs in the chasing pack and the fact they are all still in with a great chance of nicking second at this stage of the season.
Equally the gap to the rest is disappointing and scary as any could be sucked into a relegation scrap.


The "P" word is banned at Rams, it's a bit like mentioning the Dark Lord by name in Harry Potter. At the moment the only mathematical certainty for Rams is that we can't get relegated Smile


Rams were my favourites for promotion before the season started - haven't seem
N anything so far to change my mind.
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PaddyM......as others have already advised.....our succession of injury problems has seen Kiba deployed at NO8 last week.  FWIW......I suggested to chums 2yrs ago (at least) that this might be a good way for him to extend his playing career.  KIba is an outstanding tackler and a superb defender IMO.  Although blindside might be my longer term preference ?  Great player and club servant regardless  ClapClap 

He made a decent fist of his first excursion in the back row (IMO) and we will see how he does over the next few weeks.  I am optimistic, though I suspect it will make demands on his 80min fitness.  He certainly shored up our midfield fence against Canterbury last week (IMO).  

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Originally posted by Darth Raider Darth Raider wrote:

PaddyM......as others have already advised.....our succession of injury problems has seen Kiba deployed at NO8 last week.  FWIW......I suggested to chums 2yrs ago (at least) that this might be a good way for him to extend his playing career.  KIba is an outstanding tackler and a superb defender IMO.  Although blindside might be my longer term preference ?  Great player and club servant regardless  ClapClap 

He made a decent fist of his first excursion in the back row (IMO) and we will see how he does over the next few weeks.  I am optimistic, though I suspect it will make demands on his 80min fitness.  He certainly shored up our midfield fence against Canterbury last week (IMO).  

PLease note I am just a fan and absolutely nothing to do with the club....coaches or management.




I think Canterbury will be my choice for 2nd spot, especially our game Taunton is now postponed until 23/24 Feb. We still got to play Canterbury away and Taunton at home, like last season we won at Taunton and lost the home fixture!! Like Darth said earlier, if Rams don’t win it now, then someone will need to be shot!!
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by paddym paddym wrote:

Darth. 

Hearing talk that Kiba Richards playing No 8 tomorrow. Any truth in rumour?!


Played there last week, so could be true.

Thanks Raider was just curious as to why one of your best backs was playing 8!
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Originally posted by Darth Raider Darth Raider wrote:

PaddyM......as others have already advised.....our succession of injury problems has seen Kiba deployed at NO8 last week.  FWIW......I suggested to chums 2yrs ago (at least) that this might be a good way for him to extend his playing career.  KIba is an outstanding tackler and a superb defender IMO.  Although blindside might be my longer term preference ?  Great player and club servant regardless  ClapClap 

He made a decent fist of his first excursion in the back row (IMO) and we will see how he does over the next few weeks.  I am optimistic, though I suspect it will make demands on his 80min fitness.  He certainly shored up our midfield fence against Canterbury last week (IMO).  

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Good player may be the future for him. Are you travelling today? Ill be in bar if you are up at Hazelwood.
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After the results today both Canterbury and TJs are safe from relegation Tongue
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‘Hawks’ strange that you should go against your own team and chose Canterbury for 2nd place?
Hawks have had an exceptional season so far according to last seasons finish. Not to mention must be this seasons over achievers with what seems a very young squad?
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Originally posted by paddym paddym wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by paddym paddym wrote:

Darth. 

Hearing talk that Kiba Richards playing No 8 tomorrow. Any truth in rumour?!


Played there last week, so could be true.


Thanks Raider was just curious as to why one of your best backs was playing 8!


I think it is the management thinking out of the box where we have a number of back row injuries but have options in the backs.

A case of getting as many of our best footballers on the field for the maximum time?
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Originally posted by Lineoutboy Lineoutboy wrote:

‘Hawks’ strange that you should go against your own team and chose Canterbury for 2nd place?
Hawks have had an exceptional season so far according to last seasons finish. Not to mention must be this seasons over achievers with what seems a very young squad?


Head over heart here Lineoutboy, I would love us to get 2nd spot, Canterbury is a very hard place to win, we lost there last season & Canterbury have the points in the bag!, so we have to wait and see?! Like you say, we are a young squad and my personal veiw is and NOT the clubs veiw, I would like us to stay here for another season and do a Rams, but if we do go up, of course we would give it go!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sheepish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 17:26
Our registration secretary pointed out just how your your side is when we played you on 5th Jan. that is very good to see
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Sorry “young”
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