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    Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 09:12
Ealing Trailfinders U18`s back to training with a whole set of protocol 

Pre-season Training Guidelines

  • Players will be split into groups of five players plus one coach.
  • We may need to split the sessions (18’s only) and have one set of players for the first 50 minutes and another set for the second. 
  • As we will only be small numbers per group each player should not train for more than 40 – 45 minutes per session.
  • You must confirm in advance that you are coming training and to which session with myself each week. (18’s only)
  • When travelling to the club, please ensure that you follow Government Advice, come already changed and ready to go onto the pitch.
  • On arrival at the gate follow the road to the left; park your vehicle in the car park at the end of pitch 1. Our meeting point and access to the pitches will be from the car park. Leave any bags in your vehicle or at the edge of the car park next to the pitch. 
  • You will be directed to the area where you will be training. You will not be permitted to move out of that area.
  • Once you arrive please register with the coach/manager for track and trace purposes.
  • Parents are welcome to stay but must following social distancing at all times, and may not enter the pitch area but make use of the stands, and please do not wander around the grounds.
  • Clubhouse and changing rooms will be closed. Do not wander around the grounds. Ensure you maintain social distance at all times. 
  • On entering the pitch, gel sanitiser and wipes will be available. Please use it to wash your hands. Dispose of used wipes in the black rubbish bags.
  • Both 3G pitches have been disinfected. Do not bring any items onto the pitch other than your own, marked, water bottle. Do not share water/equipment with anybody else. Refill water bottles using tap next to pitch 2.  Ensure that you do not make contact with the tap and the neck of the bottle.
  • Toilets behind the Damian Bugeja Stand will be open and hand sanitiser available. 
  • No spitting at all.
  • If you cut yourself, please seek first aid immediately.  Be aware any blood on the pitch will take it out of action until it is disinfected.
  • Clubhouse and changing rooms will be closed. Do not wander around the grounds. Ensure you maintain social distance at all times. 
  • Avoid touching your face at all times.
  • When training is over, clean your hands with gel sanitiser and, as soon as possible, make your way to the exit.
  • Anybody failing to respect these rules will be asked to leave immediately and reported to the disciplinary officer at the club.
  • For clarification on any of the above, or for any Covid-related questions, members coaching or management team are available at any time.
  • If anyone is feeling unwell, please do not attend training under any circumstances.
We look forward to seeing you back at the club, and if you have any concerns or queries please do not hesitate to contact myself or if you are moving to the Men’s Section, contact 
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I have spoken with a few first team players and they all seemed bouyant considering the restrictive training regime.

They all seem to think that there will be rugby matches this side of Christmas ! . I hope that is correct.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Blues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 20:39
With cases rising, I can't see the Championship Clubs wanting to start a season, as without sponsors and crowds only Ealing and Saracens can operate!  Leagues without big TV deals will struggle.
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Restrictions on social distancing will be around for a very long time. Cramming into small grounds will not be allowed. 

Bedford have an advantage with their partnership and can possibly use the larger ground, Franklins Gardens and still keep the required social distancing. The ground has a 15.000 capacity
Will the Blues fans make the trip in enough numbers to make it pay after Northamptons costs or maybe it will be gifted to help the Blues through these next few seasons. 





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I heard originally the hope was to start this side of Christmas, but since the test crowd events have been postponed they do not see any rugby this side of Christmas.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Bedford have an advantage with their partnership and can possibly use the larger ground, Franklins Gardens and still keep the required social distancing. The ground has a 15.000 capacity
Will the Blues fans make the trip in enough numbers to make it pay after Northamptons costs or maybe it will be gifted to help the Blues through these next few seasons. 

I very much doubt it! The 2,500 Goldington Road faithfull wouldn't come close to cover the operating costs at Franklin's Gardens, let alone produce a profit for reduced numbers travelling 22 miles up A428. Far better to limit numbers at Goldington Road and keep Admission, Bar Takings, Hospitality etc.
 
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My club has just been told we can have ten-a-side touch rugby within the club.

There are a number of old fat players who have suddenly discovered that they need to remain shielded. Or start shielding
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Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.

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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.


Very worrying.
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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.


Very worrying.
It may suggest they could have started up a tad early. Better a bit later if it leads to fewer problems imo.

Edited by corporalcarrot - 12 Aug 2020 at 11:25
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.


Very worrying.
It may suggest they could have started up a tad early. Better a bit later if it leads to fewer problems imo.

I posted the details re: Hull FC players testing positive on 'Clubhouse Chat'.

With regard to starting a 'tad early', this is a virus so, how would we know when is right? 
Qualified people tell us this virus could be with us for 30 years! At some point, we will have to live with this and manage the risk like we do with the usual Flu outbreaks. 
New Zealand are playing because they had no cases. After 102 days of being clear they now have 22 cases, all travellers in quarantine rather than players. On the back of this 'spike' Auckland is going into lock-down. Does that mean Rugby will cease again? 
Will Hull now go into lock-down? The players with the positive tests may live elsewhere. Will their home towns go into lock-down? The uncertainty and possibilities just grow and grow.
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.


Very worrying.
It may suggest they could have started up a tad early. Better a bit later if it leads to fewer problems imo.

I posted the details re: Hull FC players testing positive on 'Clubhouse Chat'.

With regard to starting a 'tad early', this is a virus so, how would we know when is right? 
Qualified people tell us this virus could be with us for 30 years! At some point, we will have to live with this and manage the risk like we do with the usual Flu outbreaks. 
New Zealand are playing because they had no cases. After 102 days of being clear they now have 22 cases, all travellers in quarantine rather than players. On the back of this 'spike' Auckland is going into lock-down. Does that mean Rugby will cease again? 
Will Hull now go into lock-down? The players with the positive tests may live elsewhere. Will their home towns go into lock-down? The uncertainty and possibilities just grow and grow.
Everyone is desperate to play & see rugby. The lesson from Hull may be when you think its all over wait and think again. People's lives may be affected by these decisions. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 22:17
Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Huge outbreak of Covid at Hull FC in the Super League.


Very worrying.
It may suggest they could have started up a tad early. Better a bit later if it leads to fewer problems imo.

I posted the details re: Hull FC players testing positive on 'Clubhouse Chat'.

With regard to starting a 'tad early', this is a virus so, how would we know when is right? 
Qualified people tell us this virus could be with us for 30 years! At some point, we will have to live with this and manage the risk like we do with the usual Flu outbreaks. 
New Zealand are playing because they had no cases. After 102 days of being clear they now have 22 cases, all travellers in quarantine rather than players. On the back of this 'spike' Auckland is going into lock-down. Does that mean Rugby will cease again? 
Will Hull now go into lock-down? The players with the positive tests may live elsewhere. Will their home towns go into lock-down? The uncertainty and possibilities just grow and grow.
Everyone is desperate to play & see rugby. The lesson from Hull may be when you think its all over wait and think again. People's lives may be affected by these decisions. 
I dont think anyone thought it was all over. They simply took all of the prescribed precautions and thought it was safe to play. Which it was, barring one players visit to a hospital a few days before the match.
If we do want to have competitive sport again, we will at some point have to accept that this comes with some risk. The main issue with that is the media's compulsion to play the blame game, hence the delay and uncertainty.
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Can't see anything below the premiership before next Christmas nevermind this. Without a vaccine rugby union as we know it may be under threat.

Edited by Loo fighters - 13 Aug 2020 at 06:57
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 09:42
Well training has moved to stage C so they can play touch with up to 10 a side - but not organise inter club matches yet.

We are some way behind other sports.

Soccer has returned to competitive matches with competition in september.

Hockey has announced that full match play can resume and the top  leagues start on September 20th with lower divisions folling when clubs are ready.

I know the contact nature of rugby makes it different.
And I think that is making DCMS cautious.

If we are permitted crowds - I assume they will be required to wear masks when not actually drinking.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

If we are permitted crowds - I assume they will be required to wear masks when not actually drinking.
All the more reason not to stop drinking Beer
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Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Can't see anything below the premiership before next Christmas nevermind this. Without a vaccine rugby union as we know it may be under threat.

The NZ Investec Super Rugby game this weekend between the Blues and Crusaders is now in doubt due to the Covid 19 outbreak in Auckland
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 11:16
Well alcohol does kill the virus.
Actually even listerine has apparently been shown to reduce viral loads on saliva.
So when the other half asks about your late night whiskey
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Originally posted by Taffy Taffy wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Can't see anything below the premiership before next Christmas nevermind this. Without a vaccine rugby union as we know it may be under threat.



The NZ Investec Super Rugby game this weekend between the Blues and Crusaders is now in doubt due to the Covid 19 outbreak in Auckland


I know they have put Auckland in lockdown, but I would have thought it would just be moved elsewhere.

Or maybe Crusaders should win 20-0 as per Premiership rules?

It is interesting the approach in NZ - no messing lockdown for 20 cases, if we did that here we would all still be in lockdown
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