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    Posted: 30 May 2019 at 18:44
Wasn't today deadline day set for Leeds to declare their position for next season?
Their fan forum says 6 of the 8 foreign high earners are still contracted to the club for another year, which is stopping any alternative allocation of available funds.

As Nat 1 & 2 fixtures have been released, including Richmond in Nat 1, does that somehow imply Leeds continuation in the Championship?

Does anyone know what is happening?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2019 at 19:14
All championship club need to submit financial report and projection to the RFU by tomorrow.
As do any Nat 1 clubs thinking of promotion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2019 at 10:33
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

All championship club need to submit financial report and projection to the RFU by tomorrow.
As do any Nat 1 clubs thinking of promotion.



Really? I'm sorry to sound like a broken record BUT the RFU are going to reconciliate financial plans for their member clubs .... just like they did for London Welsh!

They would get more credibility by getting their own finances in order first before passing judgement on a 3rd parties business plan .....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 06:51
TRP report this morning paints a bleak picture. Those pre Christmas reinforcements are threatening to to sink the ship as they've been unable to agree severance packages. 

Talk of either a CVA or the company being wound up if that can't be agreed. Real possibility of the Championship being an 11 team league next season as the deadline for redrawing the leagues has passed. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 08:01
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 08:25
Despite the lateness i think you will find the Championship has to be a  12 team league- this means either Richmond will stay up or OE's get promoted. Certainly makes more sense if Nat One thirty league matches would be reduced to 28. It would appear that either of those two would have a more competitive team than YC staying in the Championsip.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 09:09
Not sure Nat 1 clubs would be happy losing one of their home matches and the income that would be generated. In addition Richmond and OE's would be complaining about the lack of Championship Quality players they haven't been able to recruit due to time and budget 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 09:11
Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

Despite the lateness i think you will find the Championship has to be a  12 team league- this means either Richmond will stay up or OE's get promoted. Certainly makes more sense if Nat One thirty league matches would be reduced to 28. It would appear that either of those two would have a more competitive team than YC staying in the Championsip.

Dont think this is right?  Been 11 teams before...
Cant see Leeds being present at KO of new season
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 09:33
Hmm, so replace Leeds with OEs.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 11:18
I would like to know who it was at Leeds who gave these players 2 year contracts knowing that they could not
fulfil their committments in the 2nd year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 11:23
See today's Rugby Paper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 11:26
Losers: Rugby credibility, rugby in the North, Players, Supporters, Richmond FC ( lose £550k, plus some players)and The Championship 2019-2020 become a dead rubber . . so no fans or interest.

Winners: Probably only Ampthill as it secure their status for another year in Championship and time to consolidate ..  not that they would necessarily wanted it that way!

Presumably YC's central funding will be split between other clubs . . or kept to pay a couple of incompetent administrators at the RFU!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 11:47
If it is sorted by Aug 1 Richmond will replace Leeds and Nat 1 goeas ahead with 15.
Had been sorted by Friday Caldy would have stayed up and everyone else would have shuffled up, but it is now too late for that.

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Actually technically may 

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13.2.4 (b)

(vi) in the event it becomes apparent to the RFU Board of Directors or the RFU Board of Directors is advised before 1 August prior to the Season that a Premiership Club or a Championship Club for any reason whatsoever is withdrawing from or is unable to participate in or is removed from the Premiership or the Championship (as the case may be), the RFU Board of Directors may, in its absolute discretion and subject to such terms as it may decide, require that: 
a) a Club which would otherwise play in the Championship play in the Premiership; and/or 
b) a Club which would otherwise play in Level 3 play in the Championship; 

(viii) where such decisions referred to in Regulation 13.2.4(b)(vii) above is made on or after 1 June prior to any season the League at Level 3 will for the ensuing season comprise fewer than 16 Clubs

BTW am I the only the only person who reads regulations.


Edited by Camquin - 02 Jun 2019 at 12:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 16:17
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

BTW am I the only the only person who reads regulations.


No CQ, but you may well be the leading authority in this dept...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 16:38
Poster elsewhere suggested that OEs have championship quality players BUT the club may also have financial issues to address?

It is becoming more and more obvious that professional rugby is only viable at the very top level and even then many clubs are reliant upon funds from others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 16:42
There is a posting by the OEs Director of Rugby Gavin Lach on the National 1 thread refuting the rumours about any threats to the club’s financial position next season.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 16:54
In fact it is on the same page as the Leeds story in Warman's link.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 19:35
Leeds or YC if they want to call themselves that are a big city club and the RFU should sort this rubbish out and throw 1% of the money they chuck at the premiership to solve the problem. Comparing Leeds with OE's is like comparing Jersey (or Sark) with Sarries. If money is the problem the RFU should cut the prawn sandwiches out and put some money down to sort it out. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 19:46
Corporalcarrot. Who should receive this 1%, any club in difficulty or just YC and if so why?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 21:01
Obviously not an employment lawyer but you can sack anyone within 2 years without reason in a normal job so not quite sure why they just can't do this in this situation.  I guess they must not have a written notice period clause within the contract or fixed contract periods are different?

https://www.gov.uk/dismiss-staff/eligibility-to-claim-unfair-dismissal

Similarly I wonder how many players get redundancy pay after the 2 year qualifying period.

https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/redundancy-pay
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