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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Albert Fishwick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 13:54
I suspect they are already out as there is no means to pay the electricity bill!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 14:38
If there is any risk the side might not enter ot complete the next season, surely they should do the decent thing and announce the fact now. That way the league can be rejigged (Richmond would get a repreive and so on down the leagues)

If they leave it too late, the championship risks going ahead with 11 sides and clubs lose another home game. And you have another season with no relegation.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maire23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 15:18
And yet some of the pro ring fencers are still bleating that Carnegie deserve to be in the Prem...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 15:22
Tough on Richmond as deals would have been agreed as soon as their relegation was confirmed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Albert Fishwick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 15:28
We are told that Nigel Melville is due at Headingley tomorrow for an update. For everyone's sake, I hope that there is clarity very soon as to whether we will be continuing next season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pirate Pig Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 15:57
I may be wrong but I thought the visit of Nigel Melville was in relation to the future of the RFU academy?
I doubt in his position at the RFU whether he can say a club can continue in the championship.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 16:19
True - but i am sure the continuance of the academy (and monies from that even in the form of covering coaching salaries) will have a knock on effect on the viability of the club as a whole

Edited by Dad - 13 May 2019 at 16:20
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2019 at 16:23
Sounds like a London Welsh situation to me.
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Hope its not another London Welsh. Rugby in a City like Leeds is a must.
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In order to stand a chance of getting into and staying in the Prem on the playing/coaching side alone I reckon you need a minimum of roughly £12 m that's £ 3-4 m for 2 years to get in and a further £4m or £5mto when you guarantee  promotion  to recruit the right players to keep you up . Looking at LI recruits they have spent some serious money already. 

Then you can start on costs of stadia admin etc  

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Nottingham sign Jesse Liston and Tom Benjamin

https://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/nottingham-rugby-welcome-jesse-liston-and-tom-benjamin
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Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

In order to stand a chance of getting into and staying in the Prem on the playing/coaching side alone I reckon you need a minimum of roughly £12 m that's £ 3-4 m for 2 years to get in and a further £4m or £5mto when you guarantee  promotion  to recruit the right players to keep you up . Looking at LI recruits they have spent some serious money already. 

Then you can start on costs of stadia admin etc  



That's all long forgotten now. It's more a question of whether we can assemble any kind of squad and a couple of coaches so as to be able to turn out next season.
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Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

Originally posted by JonDee JonDee wrote:

In order to stand a chance of getting into and staying in the Prem on the playing/coaching side alone I reckon you need a minimum of roughly £12 m that's £ 3-4 m for 2 years to get in and a further £4m or £5mto when you guarantee  promotion  to recruit the right players to keep you up . Looking at LI recruits they have spent some serious money already. 

Then you can start on costs of stadia admin etc  



That's all long forgotten now. It's more a question of whether we can assemble any kind of squad and a couple of coaches so as to be able to turn out next season.
 

Albert this is no attempt at being critical of any club,  spent 20 years plus involved with Nottingham as Head of Mini and Juniors , Committee man, Director  and Job of all trades am no longer involved following heart attack (nothing to do with rugby ) 
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Nor did I see it as such, sorry if my reply made you think so.

I would be very surprised if any club can follow the Exeter path in future. Sadly, I think the time has now come to let the Premiership have their ring-fencing, whether formalised or de facto, and let the rest of us stop agonising over it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2019 at 07:32
I agree most clubs have accepted the fact and are developing their business models accordingly 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stadium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2019 at 08:13
Albert i do not agree with you both Ealing and the Pirates have plans for a future in Premier Rugby.Ring Fencing leagues will kill Rugby as a spectator sport.Look at the success of football  as an example of Promotion and Relegation throughout the Divisions.
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Ealing are excluded from my comments as they have the money and can fund a good push for the premiership now , I love Pirates they are my favourite club after Nottingham they have a great plan for the Stadium but am not sure if they could also fund a push for promotion in the next few years . In 5 or 10 years quite possibly but who knows what the rugby world will look like by then
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Mark Bright resigns for his 7th season at Scottish.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Albert Fishwick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2019 at 09:30
Originally posted by stadium stadium wrote:

Albert i do not agree with you both Ealing and the Pirates have plans for a future in Premier Rugby.Ring Fencing leagues will kill Rugby as a spectator sport.Look at the success of football  as an example of Promotion and Relegation throughout the Divisions.


I don't doubt any of that. I just think the headwinds are now too strong.
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Originally posted by dropout22 dropout22 wrote:

Mark Bright resigns for his 7th season at Scottish.

The man is a machine, he still does so well at this level. Nice signing
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