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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

I have to agree with other posters and agree that Jersey weren’t at the races and were well beaten today.
You can’t make the sort of mistakes that The Reds made today and get away with it against a quality side like ET. Ealing simply didn’t make those sort of mistakes... top quality side.

However, I have now leant what the rest of the RM posters mean about Tim Wigglesworth. What a shocking referee he really is.
Forget the endless stream of errors that he made for both sides, what really got me was, as Jersey eventually scored their second try, Nick Selway was subject to a horrendous tip tackle which went totally unnoticed by the officials, despite the incident being in front of the ref and an 18 stone hooker literally being held upside down. I have never called for a red card before, but I did today. This was shocking.

Agreed. Horrendous tip tackle. I hate to say it with tough games coming up but I would make that a citing and lengthy suspension. Reds player put down very dangerously.
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Blues very fortunate yesterday in the closing seconds. Richmond were on the 22 and threatening, only for a Blues back to knock on in a suspiciously one handed yellow card type way. On consulting the assistant ref, the ref blew the whistle for full time. Much to the amazement of the Richmond players, many of the blues supporters near me and some relieved blues players. Blues did their usual high scoring, fast, wide game, then dropped off, only to end up manning the barricades - very odd. Anyway well done Richmond, we gave you the big cheer and hope you stay with us, good luck.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 09:11
Yes I did not understand how the ref could finish the game On a Blues infringement, it also could possibly have been a penalty try. Let’s hope it does not cost Richmond! Cracking game though and superb crowd.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Blues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 11:03
It definitely wasn’t a penalty try being outside the 22m, but we all said yellow card and penalty around us. The referee clearly didn’t see it but you would have expected the assistant to have done so.

Blues switched off again like against Coventry and Yorkshire thinking the game was won with the big lead.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Pirates are in a bad way at the moment, probably due to a lack of numbers in the squad. When everyone was fit and firing at the start of the season we went off like a train. Now we're down to the bare bones, especially in the front row. Our major weakness all season has been the line out - we just can't seem to get it right consistently. Again, today, we had an attacking line out in Scottish territory with a chance to secure the game, messed it up and second later LA score the winning try. 


You’ve also loaned out your best prop and now hooker.

True - but if a big club comes calling what can you do? These guys deserve a chance to play at the highest level. I'm also assuming there's a bit of money involved! As with everything Pirates related it is down to the never ending delays on getting the new stadium started. If the diggers were in we'd have a better chance of holding on to these guys.
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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Pirates are in a bad way at the moment, probably due to a lack of numbers in the squad. When everyone was fit and firing at the start of the season we went off like a train. Now we're down to the bare bones, especially in the front row. Our major weakness all season has been the line out - we just can't seem to get it right consistently. Again, today, we had an attacking line out in Scottish territory with a chance to secure the game, messed it up and second later LA score the winning try. 


You’ve also loaned out your best prop and now hooker.


True - but if a big club comes calling what can you do? These guys deserve a chance to play at the highest level. I'm also assuming there's a bit of money involved! As with everything Pirates related it is down to the never ending delays on getting the new stadium started. If the diggers were in we'd have a better chance of holding on to these guys.


I heard Saracens asked Blues if we had a spare prop first to which we said we were struggling ourselves with one out for the season. As you say money would’ve been involved and being safe was probably worth more than maybe getting 1 or 2 places higher in the table.
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14-12 at Headingley half-time. 2 tries each. Niggly at the scrum. All to play for.
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Irish 28-7 Hartpury
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 16:23
Latests: 45-12 in Reading; 21-12 in Headingley
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Irish now 50-12

Looks like Scottish will have a major say with who goes down.
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What a joke the Championship has become. Yorkshire Carnegie up to 5th by buying in a shed load of overseas players at Christmas, they cannot afford and who win them enough games to avoid promotion- but the club cannot pay them at the moment and have ripped up their full time contracts for next year. They therefore survive in the Championship , gain £600,000 for doing so, and are free again next season to sign players on contracts, either full or part time that ultimately could mean nothing. Only option for players is to take the club to court which most players cannot afford to do. As usual deafening silence from the RFU. Those RFU values look pretty meaningless at the moment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 16:50
FT at Headingley, 21-12, Carnegie now 6th

Irish have survived a spell with 13 after 2 YCs and just scored, 57-12, still playing...
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FT Irish 57 Hartpury 12...

so LI lead ET by 8pts in the table, with Hartpury 1 clear of Richmond
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 17:11
Marigold . . I cant see many players risking signing for Leeds next season . . but i totally agree with your point . .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 17:12
Ps presumably Hartpury will bring back all the loan players next week for their must win game against LS . . . 
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Attendance 1283 at Headingley this afternoon for a local derby. Not good.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Apr 2019 at 17:25
Poor attendance indeed, but you can't blame people for not turning up given what's happening.
I doubt averages over the Championship will increase next season either if Newcastle and Ampthill join us.
Looks like Bedford will head that particular table unless Cov improve markedly and draw in more punters.
Can't see any other gates increasing tbh.
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Agree with Marigolds sentiment again. Noticed Hartpury, having a squad containing I think someone said 11 dual reg / premiership team players versus Bedford a couple of weeks back, had only 2 or 3 in the team for today's game versus Irish.... some might say to ensure they keep their points gap from Ealing and don't have to worry too much about winning the real game on the pitch on the last day of the season.

Impacting both the top and the bottom of the table then ..... all in the Championship rules as has been said before. But even our politicians would refer to this as a "cheats charter".

I love watching this league and the intensity, but spirit, with which teams play it in. I like the spread of ambition, consolidation and "knowing their place" that it contains, but this last month is stretching its credibility too far.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

FT Irish 57 Hartpury 12...

so LI lead ET by 8pts in the table, with Hartpury 1 clear of Richmond
 

Effectively 2 points due to the wins.
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

What a joke the Championship has become. Yorkshire Carnegie up to 5th by buying in a shed load of overseas players at Christmas, they cannot afford and who win them enough games to avoid promotion- but the club cannot pay them at the moment and have ripped up their full time contracts for next year. They therefore survive in the Championship , gain £600,000 for doing so, and are free again next season to sign players on contracts, either full or part time that ultimately could mean nothing. Only option for players is to take the club to court which most players cannot afford to do. As usual deafening silence from the RFU. Those RFU values look pretty meaningless at the moment.


There is a lot of supposition in this. There is no suggestion now that we will not see out the season with all players and staff being paid. All who turned out today were fully committed. Nor has anyone said that contracts are being ripped up. We know that we will likely be running on a much lower budget next season and that some of that is spoken for by the players we signed mid-season, who may certainly be released if that is their choice and they can find other contracts.

I do struggle to understand why there is this degree of Schadenfreude or outright glee at a fellow club struggling. That was certainly not how I viewed the travails that London Welsh went through, nor did I celebrate when Rotherham were relegated.

Edited by Albert Fishwick - 14 Apr 2019 at 19:40
That's easy for you to say.
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