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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Ouen Status: Offline Points: 3451 |
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 1701 |
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You want to see the Jersey Exiles playing CC?
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 1701 |
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So that will be crook - or is that crooked?
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1393 |
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Saracens were punished by being demoted to the Championship to play for one full season in the Championship and if they were successful they would have gone straight back up. The key point is that they have not played a season in the Championship. They should be made to wait until all the Championship sides have time to build a squad and to recover in readiness for a new season starting in September.
There are several teams who could surprise Saracens on the day. Most Championship sides will rise to the occasion and really challenge the `Premiership` side.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 3371 |
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Ouen Status: Offline Points: 3451 |
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 1701 |
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It is going to be a better year and I would look forward to you attending. Stay Safe and Stay Well.
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 4295 |
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He keeps trying the 'Tommy' reference. Someone'll notice eventually.
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Ouen Status: Offline Points: 3451 |
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Rich ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 22 May 2007 Status: Offline Points: 527 |
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I feel sorry for those teams that won't get a bumper pay day for hosting Sarcens...although it may still be none if spectators are not permitted (and if they are not, why even bother - oh yes, to get Saracens back up ASAP)
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 1015 |
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Yes, I think an especially bitter pill for Ealing and Richmond. Those would have been bumper crowds. This is why I have always been a fan of a Prem/champ cup, just the extra gate from a couple Prem teams could really help club finances at no cost to the RFU.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 3371 |
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I think a Prem/Championship cup would be a good idea, especially if the championship sides were given home draws in the first round. |
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Welshie7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 2013 Location: Oxford Status: Offline Points: 342 |
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Hi
As I posted on another thread a combined cup will not work. Too many Championship clubs depend on DR/loans to put sides out. These players would potentially be playing against their ‘home’ club. The gulf between Championship (minus DR) and Premiership is big. Would a Championship/N1 Cup with N1 clubs at home in 1st Rnd not have been a better option for the RFU to consider or include N2 too with the lower league club always hosting the fixture so potentially hosting a N1 and Championship club in consecutive rounds?
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 7312 |
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Nat 1 DoRs have agreed to cut the league from 16 to 14 as they feel 30 games is too much. I am not sure how you add a cup to a calendar that is already too full. I know in the past we had 14 team leagues and the knockout cup and one of the most bruising games I ever watched was the fixture at London Welsh in the season Cambridge were spending freely looking for promotion to the old Nat1. But many of the games were complete mismatches. That season Exeter 115 -0 Preston Grasshoppers. Leeds had two 50+ whitewashes over Dings and Coventry.
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Welshie7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 2013 Location: Oxford Status: Offline Points: 342 |
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Yes maybe they should have considered before re-shaping.
In terms of mis-matches well I think the strength of the leagues has changed. Less of a gap top end N1 and 4th downwards of Championship. In saying this I do think bottom end N1 and N2 (South as not seen North) is definitely getting poorer year on year. Is it the ‘sameness’ of fixtures or playing styles, something is needed to re-energise a sport that has some global issues to sort out.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 3371 |
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Absolutely no point in adding a cup to Level 3 or Level 4 - the league size is reducing to allow for more rest weeks - adding a meaningless cup would defeat that objective. |
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 3371 |
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I'm not sure the standard has dropped in N2S - just the teams are more equal in strength. It is still very difficult for the 3 promoted clubs to stay up. |
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Welshie7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 14 Jul 2013 Location: Oxford Status: Offline Points: 342 |
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According to players and coaches in N2 they would disagree with you about the lessening of standard....evening out maybe but if you look back at the strength of those teams who have been promoted 4-5 years ago compared to more recently....
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 3371 |
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Agreed N2S loses 2 teams to N1 virtually every year, most years only 1 team gets relegated from N1 to N2S. This means the standard of N2S is evening out. Yes, there have been some really good teams in N2S over the past years - most promoted teams from N2S seem to do reasonably well in N1 (such as Chinnor, Rams in the last couple of years. There is an imbalance in N1 with a lot more Southern sides than Northern. Having watched 1 N2N game (not a large sample size admittedly) - I was not impressed with either team. |
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Exiled_Scots ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() London Scottish Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Status: Offline Points: 2545 |
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Looks like the Confirmed Championship Start Date of 6th March has been blown out of the water with the introduction of Tier 5.
The date was delusional at best when first mentioned and back to the drawing board for the RFU to justify a legitimate route back to the Premiership for Saracens. |
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Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!!
Seven down one to go |
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