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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:12
Does any know whether Chris Johnson has joined Fylde or is he still at Huddersfield. I heard a whisper that he had finally made the switch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:29
Shield Semi Finals from RFU.com

Cumbria Vs. Surrey  
Leicestershire Vs. Oxfordshire

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:49
RFU regulation 13 states

the final positions within each pool shall be determined by applying the provisions of sub paragraphs
(ii), (iii),(iv), (v), (vi), (vii), (viii), (ix) and (x) in the Definition of Best Runner Up.

Which leads to the question - where do we find the Definition of Best Runner Up?
What are provisions (ii), (iii),(iv), (v), (vi), (vii), (viii), (ix) and (x)?

And - more importantly - why doesn't the RFU simply repeat this verbiage?


OR put more simply by how much do EC have to beat Durham
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:56
Originally posted by Monkey Boy Monkey Boy wrote:

Where is the game next week?
Why ask here? There are websites with that information look it up yourself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 08:12
Correction for Shield semi finals

Cumbria v Surrey

Leicestershire v Dorset and Wilts - repeat of the 2010 final.

For some inexplicable reason the RFU got it wrong - what a surprise!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 09:02
I see from the rugby paper that Warren Spragg did actually play for Lancashire despite not being included in the team sheet as a starter or on the bench and Caldy's Andrew Soutar played full back for Cheshire despite being listed on the bench for Lanacashire. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 09:58
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Team P W D L F A Diff B Pts Pts
Oxfordshire 2 1 0 1 44 37 7 1 5
Dorset & Wilts 2 1 0 1 81 49 32 1 5
Berkshire 2 1 0 1 45 84 -39 0 4


Dorset & Wilts 67 - 22 Berkshire  
Berkshire 23 - 17 Oxfordshire  
Oxfordshire 27 - 14 Dorset & Wilts

So back to my earlier question, how do we rank teams on the same number of points.
Is it points difference, or the result between the teams?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 11:25
Warwickshire 39-34 eastern counties. Scorers for Warwickshire Gary Collins 2 Stefan cooksammy 2 Rob Watts 1 all of the back 3.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 12:39
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RFU updated site at 9.24 this morning in favour of Dorset and Wilts.
Must be points difference!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 12:54
good game at stour yday.  end to end stuff, literally. impressive were stefan shillingford and cameron mitchell for north mids and ryan from bromsgrove kicked very well.  both the 10s distributed well.  none of forwards really stood out because it was a backs dominated game and most of the forwards will probably have been blowing out of their hazelnut after 10 minutes.  in the end north mids were good value for the win but gloucs looked the better side first half.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 13:19
Originally posted by goodlad12 goodlad12 wrote:

Warwickshire 39-34 eastern counties. Scorers for Warwickshire Gary Collins 2 Stefan cooksammy 2 Rob Watts 1 all of the back 3.

Not trying to be clever, just haven't seen the details - not Gareth Collins?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 13:34
I went to watch Yorks v Lancs at Scarborough. A beautiful sunny day and a wonderful new club surely would have been a fitting backdrop for a fiery classic; it wasn't! Though 21-21 all at half time I thought Yorks quite fortunate to be in that position, and Lancashire destroyed them in the second half. Some of the tries were superb from Lancs and I was particularly impressed by Kenyon at 12, what an intelligent rugby player. It was also interesting to see Johnson out of his 'Huddersfield bubble'. 

Thought there was a gulf in class between the two teams, perhaps Yorks need to encourage some players to turn out; as some were blatantly out of their depths. One player's tackling in particular would have shamed a scared under 8!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 13:53
Originally posted by bringbackbuck bringbackbuck wrote:

Some of the tries were superb from Lancs and I was particularly impressed by Kenyon at 12, what an intelligent rugby player. It was also interesting to see Johnson out of his 'Huddersfield bubble'.


'RK', the Big Cheese, has been doing this for more than a decade. More than 250 1st team appearances for Fylde. He's a superbly talented and loyal footballer - and a very nice guy too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 14:00
Originally posted by bringbackbuck bringbackbuck wrote:

I was particularly impressed by Kenyon at 12, what an intelligent rugby player. It was also interesting to see Johnson out of his 'Huddersfield bubble'. 

One player's tackling in particular would have shamed a scared under 8!

For me Kenyon was the player who brought the best out of the Fylde team in their promotion year. A brilliantly unorthodox player who would have thrived under the stewardship of Brian Ashton. My sources tell me that Johnson is off to Fylde although I dont know if that is official yet. It will be interesting to see how he goes in National 1. He is a far more structured than this years regular no. 10 Kenyon.

BBB how was Warren Spragg? I presume you were talking about a Yorks player rather than a Lancs player when you mentioned defensive frailities?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 15:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 15:54
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

OR put more simply by how much do EC have to beat Durham
 
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I'll do the maths:

Durham 48 - 14 Warwickshire = Durham + 34; Warwickshire - 34

Warwickshire 39 - 35 Eastern Counties = Durham + 34; Eastern Counties - 4; Warwickshire - 30

Table (assuming Warwickshire and EC both scored 4 tries:

1. Durham   Points = 5, Diff =  34
2. Warwickshire Points = 5, Diff = -30
3. Eastern Counties  Points = 2, Diff = -4

Therefore Eastern Counties can top the table by winning by more than 7 (if Durham don't score 4 tries), otherwise they have to win by 38 points.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 16:29
Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

Hertfordshire 29 - 27 Cornwall full time, well done Hertfordshire, miracle needed for Cornwall to qualify now.

Certainly sounds like Cornwall threw the game away, although TASC did tweet that Cornwall were playing into a strong wind in the second half, so maybe this was underplayed by the Radio bods.


There was a bit of a wind, but not enough to explain why the Cornish team all seemed to stop playing as well in the last ten minutes as in the previous seventy.
The wind was also not strong enough to explain how the Cornish kicker missed a real sitter of a penalty in the last few moments.
First twenty minutes was Herts playing through the backs, the next forty either side of half time was Cornwall using their scrum and forward power to take a lead. the last twenty was Herts scrambling through the whole team to score and Cornwall letting them off the hook.
Although the Cornish scrum was on top for most of the game, Herts got enough of their own ball to always stay in with a chance.
Rumbles through the Herts supporters that maybe some of the Sarries lads didn't have their hearts in the game. Some people would prefer 'real' Herts lads to take part, even if the team was technically less acomplished.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 17:37
Originally posted by Billywindsock Billywindsock wrote:

There was a bit of a wind, but not enough to explain why the Cornish team all seemed to stop playing as well in the last ten minutes as in the previous seventy.

Someone with your moniker is probably the best judge of such things!

From what I have seen of the Cornwall side of late, the talented individuals on the park receive a distinct lack of direction from the bench. Maybe it can be excused by a lack of interest from other parties, but it seems odd to me to see a group of players who have consolidated well at level 4, augmented by level 2 players, one from level 2 and one from level 6 being lead by a coach who whose team struggled at level 6 this season.

Cornwall did a similar thing against Gloucestershire last week, failing to keep things tight and kill the game off, going from 14 points up and dominating to falling over the line and gifting Gloucestershire a bonus point.

Originally posted by Billywindsock Billywindsock wrote:

The wind was also not strong enough to explain how the Cornish kicker missed a real sitter of a penalty in the last few moments.
 

Unfortunately our first choice kicker was off injured by that stage, although the player who took the kick is a regular place kicker for his club and the Royal Navy. The radio commentary I was listening to didn't make it clear how much of a sitter the kick was though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2012 at 17:41
Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

My sources tell me that Johnson is off to Fylde although I dont know if that is official yet.

It is now.

http://bit.ly/Jo3mrk

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