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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 20:33
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

To answer the last questtion, because there are 14m Scots, Welsh and Irishmen combined and 60m Englishmen. And RTE has access to most of those.


But the fact that Sky (which covers those 14m potential subscribers) chose not to bid, or didn't bid high enough to retain the rights shows how they felt about it.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

 A question, if Pro14 is so wonderful, why do crowds not flock to watch especially given these are traditional rugby areas - also why are the Broadcasters not that interested in throwing big money at it for viewing rights?

I can think of three reasons off the top of my head:
  1. because the fans in Wales haven't bought-in to regional rugby - some die-hard Cardiff fans won't even support the Blues.
  2. because the structure doesn't lend itself to excitement - no relegation (there's a clue there, Mr McCafferty) and the confusing conferences; and
  3. because the best players are invariably rested ,so you don't actually pay to watch the players you see on the TV - which is a big draw for youngsters who want to see their heroes in the flesh.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 08:39
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

[QUOTE=Raider999] A question, if Pro14 is so wonderful, why do crowds not flock to watch especially given these are traditional rugby areas - also why are the Broadcasters not that interested in throwing big money at it for viewing rights?

I can think of three reasons off the top of my head:
  1. because the fans in Wales haven't bought-in to regional rugby - some die-hard Cardiff fans won't even support the Blues.
  2. because the structure doesn't lend itself to excitement - no relegation (there's a clue there, Mr McCafferty) and the confusing conferences; and
  3. because the best players are invariably rested ,so you don't actually pay to watch the players you see on the TV - which is a big draw for youngsters who want to see their heroes in the flesh.
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In addition it is a regional competition the distances are much larger, or in the case of SA / Italy vast.

Also be careful when you call them traditional  rugby areas , traditionally you have South Wales and ,The Borders in Scotland otherwise Football is still the most popular sport in both countries and Italy has never bothered with Rugby

Rugby is still a minority sport even in England 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 17:25
Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

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1.26 million circulation, second highest daily paper. Not bad for a "fail". Good article, too.


Pesky statistics eh? Wink

All newspapers have declining circulation, so they are all failures in that respect.

Very true but look here for a true example of failure
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

(unless of course constant sensationalism and exciting news of Louise Redknapp's chin and Simon Cowell's teeth are your ideas of success).   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stalwart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 21:22
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

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1.26 million circulation, second highest daily paper. Not bad for a "fail". Good article, too.


Pesky statistics eh? Wink

All newspapers have declining circulation, so they are all failures in that respect.

Very true but look here for a true example of failure
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

(unless of course constant sensationalism and exciting news of Louise Redknapp's chin and Simon Cowell's teeth are your ideas of success).   

Simply the nature of modern day journalism. It may be a rag, but it's one of the more successful rags.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 07:19
Should we just have a poll about whether we like/respect the Daily Mail or not? Perhaps best not, in case it ends up 52:48 and we end up quarreling for years...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 07:27
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Should we just have a poll about whether we like/respect the Daily Mail or not? Perhaps best not, in case it ends up 52:48 and we end up quarreling for years...

maybe we should ....exit this chat at this point
Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 16:17
Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

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1.26 million circulation, second highest daily paper. Not bad for a "fail". Good article, too.


Pesky statistics eh? Wink

All newspapers have declining circulation, so they are all failures in that respect.

Very true but look here for a true example of failure
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

(unless of course constant sensationalism and exciting news of Louise Redknapp's chin and Simon Cowell's teeth are your ideas of success).   

Simply the nature of modern day journalism. It may be a rag, but it's one of the more successful rags.

Indeed it's a rag. That's why it fails to be a newspaper. That's why people call it the Daily Fail. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 17:13
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 17:37
There is a rumour that Sir James Dingemans , ex Ealing player and the ex RFU  Legal expert ( stepped down since 2017 ) may be used in an advisory roll. 

He was the Rugby Football Union`s first independent head of Rugby Judiciary. His knowledge and experience Rugby regarding legal matters is second to none.

James and his brother Piers both played for Ealing first team and were a formidable asset on the field. James could now advise Ealing Trailfinders to navigate the minefield being layed by Premiership clubs and the RFU.

Rugby Football Union’s first Independent Head of Rugby Judiciary 
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