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So apparently the RFU Council have been told that following a plethora of complaints/pleas/requests from every single part of the game outside the Prem that if a restart wasn't forthcoming it would have multiple negative effects. Therefore the  DCMS have been "pushed" to allow the game to go to Stage E at the start of October with Stage F lined up for a November restart.

However due to the fact that about 40% of the country our now in increased infection areas that hope of DCMS Green lighting anything looks like being punted back down field. I still stick with my 2021 prediction before we see some "normal" rugby and even then I'm not sure when in 2021!
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The RFU council are correct in pushing on.
These young men need to play or our game will be lost.

The majority of contributors on this site will be like me, past playing and only wishing we could don the boots once again. It is up to us to look after ourselves whilst watching our beautiful game.

Yes the players will have to be careful with interaction with their families but that is a small price to pay to keep the game alive.
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Originally posted by Sail By Sail By wrote:

The RFU council are correct in pushing on.
These young men need to play or our game will be lost.

The majority of contributors on this site will be like me, past playing and only wishing we could don the boots once again. It is up to us to look after ourselves whilst watching our beautiful game.

Yes the players will have to be careful with interaction with their families but that is a small price to pay to keep the game alive.

You quite clearly have no understanding of what efforts go in to making sure a game goes ahead each weekend do you?
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Yes very much so, but I have a different opinion re the risk.

You may not agree with me, which is your right to disagree, but I really do wonder where you get your formed opinion of my knowledge?
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Worst case scenario?
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Originally posted by Steve@Mose Steve@Mose wrote:

Worst case scenario?




I'm sure I read an article attributed to Exeter saying weekly testing should be abandoned as virtually all results were negative (to save the money)

because Sale played Northampton last their game at Gloucester is in doubt.

Could cost Sale their chance of a top 4 place as they will lose 0-20. It might be better for them to field whatever players they can and at least have a chance of winning?

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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

 I'm sure I read an article attributed to Exeter saying weekly testing should be abandoned as virtually all results were negative (to save the money)

because Sale played Northampton last their game at Gloucester is in doubt.

Could cost Sale their chance of a top 4 place as they will lose 0-20. It might be better for them to field whatever players they can and at least have a chance of winning?

I guess that the positive tests are not all playing squad and that some will be their backroom/support staff.  So as long as Sale can muster the required front row specialists for the match day 23 they should still play.
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Originally posted by Steve@Mose Steve@Mose wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

 I'm sure I read an article attributed to Exeter saying weekly testing should be abandoned as virtually all results were negative (to save the money)

because Sale played Northampton last their game at Gloucester is in doubt.

Could cost Sale their chance of a top 4 place as they will lose 0-20. It might be better for them to field whatever players they can and at least have a chance of winning?


I guess that the positive tests are not all playing squad and that some will be their backroom/support staff.  So as long as Sale can muster the required front row specialists for the match day 23 they should still play.


The impression given was that most were players - however I see they are following my suggestion that they play as they have nothing to lose.

Interestingly their opponents, Worcester, -are querying whether the game should go ahead on safety grounds.

Could end up in a Sale 20-0 win (5 points)
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To me this all makes the chance of a return to playing for teams below the Premiership Even more remote. 
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Is it a real shock. Manchester has been in special measures.

It takes one error, by one person and this is the outcome.

It was interesting hearing regional TV and the cost of private tests. To cover costs of regular tests, crowd safety measures, how much more would people pay to watch a match in person I wonder?
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Seems Prem Rugby making it up as they go along...again! Sale game postponed and now being played next Wednesday giving them extra time and they will know exactly what result they need. The leniency didn't extend to Northampton who have been refused the chance to bring in some loan front rows

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I thought Northampton was permitted to bring in a loose head.
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No. 

Northampton, who met Sale on Tuesday, have forfeited their game as a number of their players have to self-isolate.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54391167
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I thought Northampton was permitted to bring in a loose head.


The Northampton players in contact with any positive Sale players in their last match now have to self isolate. Obviously it's the front rows who have the most prolonged contact so Northampton are unable to field enough FR players.

In the Sale situation. I suspect that Worcester are not happy to play the fixture until they receive confirmation it's safe to play Sale. Presumably Sale could get a 23 out...but made up of many youth/reserve players
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I was thinking of the other case where they had run out of front-row players for the cup.
It does mean Gloucester move ahead of Northampton who otherwise might have caught Quins.

Not sure how Sale will be able to raise a team by Wednesday - surely all their players will either be positive or contacts.

What I cannot remember is how many sides qualify for Europe Champions Cup next year.

If it is only six then it probably does not matter. If it is seven then it is crucial - and I would expect Saints to appeal.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I was thinking of the other case where they had run out of front-row players for the cup.
It does mean Gloucester move ahead of Northampton who otherwise might have caught Quins.

Not sure how Sale will be able to raise a team by Wednesday - surely all their players will either be positive or contacts.

What I cannot remember is how many sides qualify for Europe Champions Cup next year.

If it is only six then it probably does not matter. If it is seven then it is crucial - and I would expect Saints to appeal.

It is the top 8 from all the 3 leagues so I believe Northampton will still qualify, but it has deprived Worcester the potential chance to overtake Gloucester. 

But I'm still not entirely sure about the Sale game and why they are giving them extra time. If they have managed to scrape together a side then they should be playing tomorrow....but it looks like they might be trying to do some more testing before Wednesday. 
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I thought Northampton was permitted to bring in a loose head.

You can lend them one of yours, you seem to have registered 30 new players as well as a few on loan!
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Well last season we conceded a number of 2nd XV games due to not having enough players to cover for injuries to the 1st XV - we have also lost a few players who have chosen to move on.

I think we now have about 50 on the books for the combined squad, we should have needed that many to keep two teams going.
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I have nothing against Cambridge, but my point is. 

For a club that puts out publicly it needs to raise £40k inside 3 months or go under in April. To which I contributed a little to the fund via the appeal.

Then the D of R spends all of the last 3 months signing players and agreeing loan deals and shouting about it, it really just sums up rugby and how very wrong people are getting it!
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As a Gloucester supporter, I would rather have seen the game played.

I suspect it would have been if 7 qualified for Europe, but as it is 8 there is nothing on the game.

As for why Sale have been given extra time - I have no idea, but would suggest the other relevant games should also take place on Wednesday, otherwise Sale gave a huge advantage.

Interestingly, would the prop Gloucester lent Northampton for last week's Euro game been allowed to pla?

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