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    Posted: 26 Sep 2017 at 20:11
Some interesting pictures showing the progress of the AGP at Derby RFC...

http://www.derbyrfc.com/artificial-grass-pitch-progress-derby-rfc/

Some earth being shifted!
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Work has been delayed slightly due to wet weather earlier and with the Christmas / New Year break completion will not be until the New Year. Also, the earth removed is being used by the environment agency in flood protection elsewhere in Derby and they could not take it at the rate it was being delivered!

Hoping to be ready to greet league leaders Bees in January. 
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Looking good we love ours at Billingham
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I understand some clubs are turning down the RFU'S offer of a 3G pitch. One local to me has said (heard from a member of the committee) the terms are almost impossible to meet.
RFU would allow the club 12 hours use a week, and wanted changing space for the hours RFU would use it
He quoted the hours the club would want it, 4 x 2 hours for training (seniors and youth ) plus 2x 2 hours on Saturday and Sunday gives the club no room for extra games e.g. Vets on a Friday night unless they pay the commercial rate. 
They are now looking to fund one themselves via fund raising and borrowing.
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You can't blame the RFU for seeking a return on their investment in addition to the spin off for promoting the game in a particular area.

Surely the answer is to upgrade another pitch to accommodate "second tier" games although I do appreciate the fact that not all clubs can do this (Sale FC and Waterloo for example).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Nov 2017 at 15:47
They are not helping themselves though - i was at a an exhibition match between 2 u18 girls teams, organised by the rfu and played at a neutral venue on a RFU funded AGP, great pity when we arrived the resident u15 girls team had just leaving as no one had told the club what was taking place on the pitch or they would have stayed and watched / supported as their girls team is quite new (no 18's yet) and would have enjoyed it, so a real failure to communicate there
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Originally posted by oldman oldman wrote:

I understand some clubs are turning down the RFU'S offer of a 3G pitch. One local to me has said (heard from a member of the committee) the terms are almost impossible to meet.
RFU would allow the club 12 hours use a week, and wanted changing space for the hours RFU would use it
He quoted the hours the club would want it, 4 x 2 hours for training (seniors and youth ) plus 2x 2 hours on Saturday and Sunday gives the club no room for extra games e.g. Vets on a Friday night unless they pay the commercial rate. 
They are now looking to fund one themselves via fund raising and borrowing.

This is most of the reason that Cov are looking to fund one themselves.
With the 1st XV and Dev XV playing (and training at least once a week) on it, plus Coventry United (Association)FC and Coventry Ladies (Association)FC using it in the winter (and the RU club looking to restart an u18s side plus a ladies side).
They also host Coventry Bears RLFC during the 'summer' (sic) months, concerts, and also want to encourage local inner-city primary schools (several without a blade of grass between them) to use the facilities during the week.
There really wouldn't be much room for the RFU in the schedules Wink
It may work for some clubs, but not Cov.
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It is working at Billingham fine. The rfu have put a lot of money into it and I'm sure our bar takings have gone up with the new AGP going in
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Time will tell at Derby RFC. I'm sure we will pay for extra hours (think it can be bought at less that general rate for other rugby clubs, but might be wrong on that). We also have floodlights on the training pitch (where first XV games are being played at the moment) and should continue to have training lights coming off the 3g light pylons pointing at adjacent pitch.

Also an opportunity to get last minute bookings free I believe.

Big factor for us is improved facilities to attract new players. Some sign of that already with students from Uni of Nottingham as well as Derby Uni having joined this season.
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Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

They are not helping themselves though - i was at a an exhibition match between 2 u18 girls teams, organised by the rfu and played at a neutral venue on a RFU funded AGP, great pity when we arrived the resident u15 girls team had just leaving as no one had told the club what was taking place on the pitch or they would have stayed and watched / supported as their girls team is quite new (no 18's yet) and would have enjoyed it, so a real failure to communicate there


When my Club holds trials or exhibition matches or Sale Sharks academy games our Club advertises to our club members. Incidentally we self funded our 3G pitch and it has been wonderful.
Local youth soccer (200+ kids from 9am to 1pm every Saturday), American football, Aussie rules football, adult casual football - all good revenue streams

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 2017 at 12:18
Certainly Burnage have  a tidy and well organised set up and I suspect the Derby approach will work for them given the catchment area.

Whether self funded or supported this is where the future lies for the game with clubs able to play ( I think?) 2 or even 3 games on the trot.

Also todays players irrespective of age or gender are inclined to seek out the best whether it be kit, coaching, competition or camaraderie so decent facilities including a good playing surface helps.
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Cheers BigMal

Our record weekend is 7 games (3 on Saturday and 4 Sunday) during the really cold snap a few years ago.
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Delays occurred when the snow and frost was about, as the granite layer cannot afford to have ice particles whilst being levelled. Granite now complete and shock absorbing layer on as the picture shows. The carpet and rubber crumb to go on next, some tidying up to do no doubt, hoping for completion in time for the game v Bridgnorth on 23rd Jan. Will be touch and go though!

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My Club were approached by the RFU, even though we don't qualify. They want a pitch in our area and no lower-level teams are interested. The time-use restrictions are crippling, and the sahare of any other income is based on the capital input. We offered to put a pitch in an area other than our 1st XV pitch and they weren't interested. I can see the benefits of the pitch itself but the RFU deal seems too weighted in their favour.
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Must admit I had also said we should propose our training pitch ( large and flat with plenty of room around it) but Rfu insisted on it being the main pitch. We will see how things pan out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jan 2018 at 18:09
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

My Club were approached by the RFU, even though we don't qualify. They want a pitch in our area and no lower-level teams are interested. The time-use restrictions are crippling, and the sahare of any other income is based on the capital input. We offered to put a pitch in an area other than our 1st XV pitch and they weren't interested. I can see the benefits of the pitch itself but the RFU deal seems too weighted in their favour.
Also the RFU have control of the usage, which could always end up affecting a community club.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2018 at 17:47
Understand Horsham RFC managed to get theirs on other than first team pitch after a Bat survey showed they might be disturbed by the building works if on main pitch
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jan 2018 at 18:23
There you go then - install a bat box. It featured in  a recent episode of the Detectorists!

Seriously though if a club has a decent sized and good quality second or even third pitch then that has to be looked at.

When first launched there were rumours of injuries and even more serious implications associated with the rubber crumb - has there been any further feedback?
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