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Originally posted by Insignificant Tick Insignificant Tick wrote:


Does any club ever ask their own players whether they want grass or plastic ?

  

Almost certainly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dalesman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 17:13
The hybrid pitch at Doncaster must be the way forward. It looked superb late season.
Think I read it cost £400k
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Joy of (Level) 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 17:19
Originally posted by Dalesman Dalesman wrote:

The hybrid pitch at Doncaster must be the way forward. It looked superb late season.
Think I read it cost £400k

I agree. The technological advances in hybrids will hopefully lead to the plastic pitches being dug up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 17:35
I think with the advance of drainage the days of mud bath pitches is over. In the last couple of years all our 5 pitches have been playable apart from snow and frost so I don't think we would ever move to 3/4G pitches

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 19:53
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

I think with the advance of drainage the days of mud bath pitches is over. In the last couple of years all our 5 pitches have been playable apart from snow and frost so I don't think we would ever move to 3/4G pitches

But when you are a city centre club with one pitch, that's used by three football teams (potentially five with Ladies/2nds), trained on, used by several local schools, for concerts (etc), what then?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 19:56
And to add:
The Ricoh has a hybrid pitch which is used by two football teams, and not for training on.
It's trashed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 10:14
And it seems that the Cov AGP is just about to be installed.
Confirmation via a circuitous route (the owner of one of our tenant clubs who have been displaced for the rest of the summer due to the works).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:02
Whilst not a fan of such pitches this is great news as the Coventry pitch was by far the worst in Nat One when they were there and in the Championship. Not sure some of their heavier forwards will be thankful of the change.....
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

Whilst not a fan of such pitches this is great news as the Coventry pitch was by far the worst in Nat One when they were there and in the Championship. Not sure some of their heavier forwards will be thankful of the change.....

To be fair, at the end of the past few seasons the Cov pitch has been like playing on dried mud.  A 3G pitch would have to be softer than that...
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Dylan Hartley in todays Grundian

 Hartley said he would like to ban playing professional rugby on artificial pitches, having injured his knee on Worcester’s artificial grass in December. “I don’t agree with them,” he said. “I’d played the fortnight before and I’d tweaked my knee in a game, then I played on an artificial pitch the following week and probably playing on an injury didn’t help. If there’s a platform to show my support for getting rid of artificial pitches, it’s here. It might be suited to under-10s or under-12s but from a personal point of view I don’t like them.”
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hobo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 09:41
So he injured his knee on a grass pitch but blames playing on a artificial pitch for making his injury worse? It is hardly scientific evidence against artificial pitches is it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Insignificant Tick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 09:59
Is there any scientific evidence to say artificial is better than grass ?

Plenty of financial motives for plastic but no scientific evidence in favour of plastic either, just money men getting their way and player welfare be damned.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 10:26
Originally posted by Insignificant Tick Insignificant Tick wrote:


Is there any scientific evidence to say artificial is better than grass ?

Plenty of financial motives for plastic but no scientific evidence in favour of plastic either, just money men getting their way and player welfare be damned.



Is there any scientific evidence to say grass/mud/frozen winter pitches/rock hard summer pitches are better than artificial ?
Other than old buffers with a fondness for the days of their own youth ?

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The 2017/18 PRISP noted that the severity and burden of injury on artificial pitches was greater than on natural grass. This was particularly marked for lower limb injuries (foot, toe and hamstring). On average it's 39 days injured on artificial pitches versus 30 on grass. There's no difference in the number of injuries.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 11:10
Originally posted by Hobo Hobo wrote:

So he injured his knee on a grass pitch but blames playing on a artificial pitch for making his injury worse? It is hardly scientific evidence against artificial pitches is it?


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Originally posted by PlangentThrowback PlangentThrowback wrote:

The 2017/18 PRISP


forgive my ignorance but what does PRISP mean and/or stand for ?
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Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Originally posted by PlangentThrowback PlangentThrowback wrote:

The 2017/18 PRISP


forgive my ignorance but what does PRISP mean and/or stand for ?
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Got it right there.
What does it matter what it stands for,  PRISP are only going to be old buffers anyway ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 12:10
Originally posted by Insignificant Tick Insignificant Tick wrote:

Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

 
forgive my ignorance but what does PRISP mean and/or stand for ?
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Got it right there.
What does it matter what it stands for,  PRISP are only going to be old buffers anyway ?

Eh?
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Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

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