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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 12:39
Originally posted by Sand grown 'un Sand grown 'un wrote:

Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

Originally posted by Percy Shaw Percy Shaw wrote:

Old Crossleyans will beat Rossendale. Home advantage is huge on the "Crocs" Broomfield pitch and they have a real team spirit going there. They are well coached by former Wharfedale full back Jonothan Davies and I can't see Rossendale getting close.
 
So just who is the coach of the Old Crosseyednewt?
 
Jones or Davies - I have heard of neither of them but there does seems to be a difference of opinion.
 

I didn't say that Chris Jones was coach but that he was a player, and still a very good one at that. Jonathan Davies is certainly the head coach.
 
my mistake - much to read in this thread that my eyes deceived me.
 
is this the Jones who had a spell at Fylde and St Helens RL too?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 12:45
Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

 
my mistake - much to read in this thread that my eyes deceived me.
 
is this the Jones who had a spell at Fylde and St Helens RL too?


Spot on Mersey. Good player & a nice guy.Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 12:48
Originally posted by Sand grown 'un Sand grown 'un wrote:

Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

 
my mistake - much to read in this thread that my eyes deceived me.
 
is this the Jones who had a spell at Fylde and St Helens RL too?


Spot on Mersey. Good player & a nice guy.Big%20smile
 
good to see him playing againClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 18:47
Originally posted by Percy Shaw Percy Shaw wrote:

Old Crossleyans will beat Rossendale. Home advantage is huge on the "Crocs" Broomfield pitch and they have a real team spirit going there. They are well coached by former Wharfedale full back Jonothan Davies and I can't see Rossendale getting close.

Well, we'll see what Dale do now with their treasure chest as they beat the Old Crocs by 31-25 today and go up to the new N3(N) along with Penrith & Rochdale.

Vale of Lune also won their play-off in an amazing game against Widnes by 52-41 and move up to North One (West).

Edited by Allan Foster - 25 Apr 2009 at 18:56
An academic is someone who sees something working perfectly in practice & wonders if it will work in theory
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 11:48
I went along to the Old Crossleyans v Rossendale game yesterday, which Old Crossleyans contrived to lose.
 
They were 17-0 up, with a couple of minutes of the first half remaining when they allowed the Rossendale prop to touch down twice in three minutes.
 
The scoring in the second half was all Rossendale until the dying seconds of normal time when Old Crocs touched down for a unconverted try and then in the seventh minute of injury time, a Penalty brought the score to 25-31.
 
The game continued with Old Crocs pushing towards the Rossendale line but unable to breach it despite some nice passing moves.
 
If only Old Crocs could have converted three of their four tries (the fourth was a penalty try in front of the posts!) and added the first half penalty, then they would have won the game. They did look the better side when passing the ball quickly but the change for Rossendale was the introduction of a prop with hands like a back!
 
After the game the rumours of the Rossendale playing budget was mentioned. Personally I couldn't see where it had all gone - they were not a side that looked like they had gone out and spent.
 
BTW, Ted Robbins was there...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 19:33
After watching this game saturday it was a great show for rugby.

Rossendale went into the game favourites -but Old Crossleyans came out the blocks much quicker and went into a deserved lead

However Rossendale came fighting back into the game and became to powerful for OC.

Rossendale will become a good team in the New National 3 and they seem to be building already for next season.

From what was said saturday they are looking to recruit experience National League players.

There was talk that 2 players from Caldy have been in talks with them and 1 player from Waterloo and they will be confirmed as players within the next week. Them signing all depended on the play off on Saturday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 17:34
The infrastucture at Rossendale is dire, very poor facilities, muddiest pitch ever, cold showers etc etc.I believe Rochdale refused to play there this season but reading between the lines they have great spirit and ambition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 20:10
As Lanes for Drains are Dale's main sponsors, presumably they can sort most of this out?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 2009 at 07:31
One thinks the state of the pitchwill be a big advantage for Dale in their home fixtures and therefore it will remain the same.They cannot havemuchcash left after paying first teamers up to £400 a week
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 08:09
Brilliant, another team overspending in a dash for the 'promised land' - just what we need, another Mounts Bay!!!
 
The fact those prospective players were waiting to see what last Saturday's result was before signing says everything about their loyalty to present or future employers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 13:08

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I saw Hull play at West Park this season and they looked very, very impressive. They have a lot of very large south Sea Island gentlemen in their team and a huge pack of fowards. Their backs are very big and very quick and they look very well drilled.
 
They will be big force in their new league having beaten a good Chester side in the pay off convincingly by 40 -15.
 
Not sure if they rely on money from 1 financial backer, but I think they have quite a big fund in the bank from the sale of their pitch 12 months ago.
Also not sure on the eligibility of their foreign players in the higher league. If they islanders are allowed to stay, I think they may well challenge in this league
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 18:49
Originally posted by Jamie Jamie wrote:

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I saw Hull play at West Park this season and they looked very, very impressive. They have a lot of very large south Sea Island gentlemen in their team and a huge pack of fowards. Their backs are very big and very quick and they look very well drilled.
 
They will be big force in their new league having beaten a good Chester side in the pay off convincingly by 40 -15.
 
Not sure if they rely on money from 1 financial backer, but I think they have quite a big fund in the bank from the sale of their pitch 12 months ago.
Also not sure on the eligibility of their foreign players in the higher league. If they islanders are allowed to stay, I think they may well challenge in this league
 
 
I would imagine a lot of their 'Islanders' have UK nationally either through residency or marriage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 20:48
Aren't they coached by Tevita Vaikona, ex Saracens and, dare I mention, Bradford Bulls RL?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 22:28
Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Aren't they coached by Tevita Vaikona, ex Saracens and, dare I mention, Bradford Bulls RL?
 
Yes they are, they also have ex Wakey and Doncaster hooker Scott Plevey.
 
I saw them against Sheffield Tigers - a game they lost at the death against a team that I think they underestimated. They can not afford to do that at the next level.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2009 at 22:39
Heard Rossendale are doing it New pitch, Fourie from SP plus Albinson and de Jager and many more
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 08:22
£400 per game is sheer nonsense - at that rate you would have a top six finish in tier 3.

As highlighted by others, if some get £400 then others will be getting diddly squat which will lead to resentment amongst players, so this folly is unsustainable on many levels. Also, why are they spending this money? what is the objective, and what are they going to do when they get there?

One things for sure, this sort of development is destabalising for all of the local rugby community and shows a lack of awareness for the game in general.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 09:49
Originally posted by champion champion wrote:


As highlighted by others, if some get £400 then others will be getting diddly squat which will lead to resentment amongst players, so this folly is unsustainable on many levels. Also, why are they spending this money? what is the objective, and what are they going to do when they get there?

Good and uncomfortable questions for a number of clubs trying to punch well above their weight. Ambition is fine as long as it's measured and fits with the culture, capabilities and nature of the club. We seem to have a situation in which some clubs at levels 4 & 5 are throwing what must be short term sponsorship or 'sugar daddy' money in an attempt to get promotion up the divisions. Others are re-appraising what they can afford and are going the opposite way. This is a very unstable environment and a dangerous time for all clubs.
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