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HandsintheRuck 
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With coventry conducting "open trials" for players, and what seems like a number of their 2009-2010 squad popping up at new clubs, are Cov' struggling to put a team together for the coming season?
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OldNick
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 09:56 |
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Coventry were forced to start late by the RFU delaying the confirmation of relegation until the end of May. All players were released from contracts at that point (having been forced to be kept under contact and paid for an extra month from the final match against Rotherham), and the recruiting process started. Some have since re-signed, most have not, due to the move from largely full-time to wholly part-time.
The open trials are not only needed because of the need to find new players, they are also being carried out as part of the intent to take the club back into greater involvement withe the local rugby community being encouraged by the new board.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 10:12 |
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Holding open trials is either very brave, or desperate. Mr Maynard will already have been trawling the local clubs anyway so, if Cov truly do operate on a straightened budget, we can expect the new Coventry team to consist of ever faithful Kurt Johnson plus a mixture of Nuneaton & Rugby players. If this is the case, and they are going to be bolstered by lads from a local trial, they won't be good enough to stay in the league.
Maynard will have to sign some decent players but where from - there is a lot of competition for a fairly scarce resource
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Jez
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 11:29 |
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I would imagine that Worcester's new links with Stourbridge has not helped matters either.
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Hexhamshire Lad
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 12:07 |
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Let's hold judgement till we see how they do on the pitch in the new season. Tyne away in the opening match should be a good indication of their season to come. Win, and Exiles will need to watch out because there will be some serious competition for the promotion spot.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 12:38 |
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Maybe competiton for winning the league but not necessarily for the promotion spot - although £300k to a club with a part time squad could be a useful injection of funds for the club itself - depending on medium term ambition.
A bit of sunshine
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HandsintheRuck
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 13:12 |
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The RFU delay in reporting their decision certainly seems to have snookered Cov' though. Most of the available players will have moved well before Cov' were able to resolve their plans for 2010-11.
Of top of which, as reported above, the Worcester tie up with Stour' is going to attract most of the available Nat 1 talent, and Bees and Moseley will have tied up the rest.
Still, there seems to be a determination to go down the community route and I hope it works out well for them. Can't see them beating you guys Hex'
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Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 14:33 |
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Hex – No allusions here on the competition for the promotion slot. A number of teams will be very competitive in NL1 next season, not at least your very own Tynedale. Add to the list Stourbridge, who with their new tie up with Regarding |
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HITR, I agree with your sentiments, I think this league, in the new season will be more competitive than last season in terms of competition for promotion and for avoiding relegation. Can't wait for the start
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 09:50 |
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Coventry say they'll be releasing this years signings soon.
Will be interesting to see the shape and quality of their squad. A great pity for them that they had to release all their players at the end of last season. I know a few of the players jumped back aboard but I have the feeling the squad is going to be a bit thin. I very much hope they'll be competitive. First match against Tynedale should give a good idea how they're going to get on.
Bees, on the other hand look like they've signed and entire new squad. Interesting to see Ernshaw head off possible criticism by commenting they're working within budget, but from an outsiders point of view, it would appear like heading off down the same path as last time.
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Jez
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 10:20 |
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Mercury, it is unclear to me why you think the Bees might not be staying within their self-alloted budget (of approx. £500k). If you look at Bees squad you will see the squad announced to date is about 50% new signings and that many of these are not established Ch'ship players.
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 10:40 |
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Jez, maybe another thread for this one and I threw it in as I'd been mulling it over for a while. So my fault there.
But briefly: as a start up business, albeit one having passed the RFU fit for business criteria, and without any real history of being able draw enough money through the gate, it struck me that it *looked* ambitious. I appreciate you're getting a fair old whack from the RFU but, by all accounts elsewhere from Championship clubs, it's still not enough to make up for lack of sponsorship and/or substantial, consistent gate money.
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 10:41 |
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Oh, and by the way Jez, I didn't say they weren't staying within their budget.
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 12:02 |
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Mercury, Is this not suggesting that Bees are going over budget?
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 12:34 |
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great -not only do bees pinch our players but also this thread
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Jez
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 12:38 |
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1. And if the Bees stay up this forthcoming season Tom they'll nick Cov's best ones the season after too (that is assuming Cov is not promoted)!
2. Exactly Joemac.
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 12:54 |
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Mercury may be suggesting that Bees are planning for a mass recruitment of some genuine talent in time for the play offs - on paper, that current squad looks like a pool c team
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 13:17 |
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Sorry to Coventry about this ongoing Bees thing:
It was neither suggesting Bees were going over budget, nor that they would recruit later for the playoffs. (I think the RFU have headed that one off anyway) It was simply stating that they'd quite a number coming in and that the budget must be generous. which is quite a diferent thing from implying thet'd go over budget.
I've re-read my first post on this a number of times can't see an implication that they'd go over budget, only that they seemed to be spending generously, all things taken into account.
I'm happy enough to debate this in another place. I don't think Coventry need their thread nicked as well
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Jez
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 13:38 |
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Mercury, it is the norm for 'threads' rapidly to go 'off topic' on RM, so no change there, and I notice most posters -before you made your quite outrageous statement- were non-Cov anyway. If you regard £500k -of which £300k of it should come from the RFU- for a Ch'ship side as being generous then it is. However, I will be surprised if there is any other Ch'ship side with a budget smaller than this Edited by Jez - 05 Jul 2010 at 13:39 |
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champion
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 13:45 |
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Jez, there will be two or three in ND1 spending more than that - without the benefit of an RFU handout
Back on topic, Cov's squad - on paper - has absolutely no chance of bouncing back up, and possibly risk doing a Newbury, even if Maynard manages to splash cash on a few Canadians; his favourite overseas player production line
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Jez
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 14:05 |
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I thought PM was more of a South Sea Islander recruiter. His most notable recruit for Bees was I think Akapusi Quera, now at Glos, and Cov's excellent fly-half of last season was, I think, Tongan.
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champion
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 14:41 |
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Yes, Fang is Tongan (is he staying at Cov?) but I'm sure Mackenzie & carpenter were both current Canadian internationals plus the Canadian selectors did watch at least one Cov game last season
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 15:11 |
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Handre Schmidt, Karl Rudzki, Dave Archer and Tom Powell...... all wise heads and wonderful players.
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 15:12 |
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Jez
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 16:47 |
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I was only joking.
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Mercury
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 17:04 |
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Nice one Centurion........
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 20:44 |
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Where's Dave Archer gone? Edited by SIlverFox - 05 Jul 2010 at 20:44 |
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HandsintheRuck
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 22:12 |
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I think Dave has gone to teach in Hong Kong...although Mercury et al from Cambs might have more info.
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Camquin
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 22:12 |
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I believe he is having a years Sabatical in China.
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HandsintheRuck
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Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 22:25 |
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there you are. Camquin to the rescue!
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