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    Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 21:19
Interesting article in Irish press this w/e which touches on the B&I Cup - decried as 'a crock' by the author, who mocks the 'life-skills' it teaches players like how to catch the bus to the airport and pack their toothbrushes & 'jammies'. He suggests Irish involvement may only have a year to run…


It was a bit of a dispiriting read the morning after witnessing the 'Crock Cup' Final, a magnificent contest in Cork between Munster 'A' and Jersey Reds.

Young Munster, one of the two clubs highlighted in the piece who were deprived of players due to the B&I, lost their play-off match 37-29 in Dublin yesterday

We await future developments on the future of the B&I...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elmsall man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 07:44
In the absence of play offs is there not a chance for the B&I to take on a new identity as the only other competition open to the Championship and emerge as something worth playing in.
I think it will take a reorganisation and the possible withdrawal of the Irish clubs could be the catalyst for a creation of a new and stimulating cup competition.
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My personal view is there are too many competitions which has a dilution effect in the quality of rugby generally.

The article makes a fair point about priorities for player development. More effective to concentrate on playing domestic teams rather than inferior European comps.

I would look to replace the AW and B&I cups with an English Prem A and Championship club cup competition. Given the EQP requirements it makes sense to have these players competing against each other.

More controversially I would also reduce the Prem and Champ leagues to 10 sides each but that is another debate!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 13:49
Trailfinder you need to read the other threads re income before taking out money raising fixtures to replace with another cup competition which have largely been ignored by the fans.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2017 at 14:20
Given that the Welsh and Irish teams in the B&I Cup are the equivalent of the development/ academy XVs that the Premiership clubs field in the Anglo-Welsh, and that there is talk of introducing clubs from South Africa's semi-pro Currie Cup into the Anglo-Welsh to breathe new life into a competition that nobody gives a pawpaw about, doesn't it make sense to merge the two competitions?
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Make sense for who? The idea has been floated here before I believe. From the point of view of Championship clubs, I think that any sort of merger would be great. But what would be in it for the current stakeholders? I see the biggest stumbling block being the lack of marketability of The Championship clubs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2017 at 08:36
It makes sense to me that if you have two ailing cup competitions, both of which could do with some new blood to keep people interested, that you could combine the two.   I don't think it would be much more successful than the two cups we currently have, but that seems more logical to me than parachuting in new teams from South Africa who won't bring much travelling support and which will result in massively increased travel costs.

Does it make sense for the clubs, the organisers, the unions?  Possibly not - but no better or worse than the current competitions, both of which are of little or no interest to 75%+ of participants.

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