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    Posted: 13 Feb 2019 at 18:18
this match is being streamed on Sky Sports 2
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Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

this match is being streamed on Sky Sports 2


Streamed? It is the program on the EPG.
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Tovey and Heenan join the other Bristol loan players at Hartpury.
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Team news:

Hartpury have retained the bulk of the squad that made a good showing in defeat at the hands of Coventry last weekend, as they prepare for tomorrow’s showdown with fellow would-be survivalists, Richmond.

As the Championship’s only semi-professional outfits, it is perhaps not surprising that the two clubs find themselves fighting it out at the foot of the table but, equally, there is no doubt that both would prefer to be playing in Tier 2 again next season.

Defeat for Hartpury would make survival difficult – if not impossible – and the club therefore need to end a run of defeats that began, at Richmond, back in September.

Once again Hartpury has called on its close links with its Premiership neighbours.  Appearing in the Red & Black for the first time will be Gloucester Rugby and former Northampton prop, Gareth Denman, a player with significant top-flight experience.

Another new face in the pack will be New Zealand-born back row forward, Jake Heenan, who was with Bristol Bears boss, Pat Lam, at Connaught in the Pro 14, before making the move to Ashton Gate at the start of this season.   Heenan skippered New Zealand at the 2012 U20 Junior World Championship, but is now qualified for Ireland.

His Bears club-mate, Jack Tovey, is the final debutant.  The long-serving centre has made almost 200 appearances for his home-city club and will bring experience to the Hartpury midfield in the continued absence of another (former) Bristol man, Luke Eves.

Worcester’s Tom Dodd returns on the bench after previous strong displays against both the Pirates and the Knights in January.

Tomorrow’s game, at the Gillman’s Ground, kicks off at 7.45pm.  The full squad is:

15.  Mat Protheroe

14.  Ben Foley

13.  Charlie Powell

12.  Jack Tovey

11.  Jake Henry

10.  Lloyd Evans

9.    Harry Cochrane

1. Dan Murphy

2. Will Tanner

3. Gareth Denman

4. Alex Craig

5. Simon Linsell (c)

6. Akapusi Qera

7. Jake Heenan

8. Sam Graham

 

Replacements:

16.  Luke Stratford

17.  Des Merrey

18.  Joe Morris

19.  Ehize Ehizode

20.  Tom Dodd

21.  Charlie Chapman

22.  Jamie Forrester


Unlucky not to have garnered a few points against Cornish Pirates last Saturday at home, Richmond make the journey to Hartpury seeking a win.

With some of the injured players back they will be confident of earning some points. Especially as the earlier fixture at The Athletic Ground provided
maximum points.

Richmond are boosted, too, by the return of two big players in their centres. Captain Cam Mitchell returns from injury to lead the side, while Henry Cheeseman has also shaken off an injury to line up alongside him in the centres. Marcus Webber is back on the wing with Jono Woodward on the other side. Rob Kirby takes up the 15 spot, with his boot tuned for points.

Up front, Max Crawford and Craig Trenier stay in the starting side, with the rest of the pack unchanged. 

1. Will Goodrick-Clarke
2. Rupert Freestone
3. Craig Trenier
4. Will Warden
5. Max Crawford
6. Jake Parker
7. Jesse Liston
8. Chris Davies
9. Luc Jones 
10. Rory Damant
11. Marcus Webber
12. Henry Cheeseman
13. Cameron Mitchell (C)
14. Jono Woodward
15. Rob Kirby

Replacements:
16. George Edgson
17. Jeremy Cunnew
18. Danny Parkinson
19. Charlie Lenygon
20. Toby Saysell
21. Jamie Gibbs
22. Lewis Dennett

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Blues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 16:19
I see Ealing have loaded Edgson to Richmond.  I wonder if he will come back to Bedford with Clare off to Tigers.
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15.  Mat Protheroe - Bristol

14.  Ben Foley 

13.  Charlie Powell - Bristol

12.  Jack Tovey - Bristol

11.  Jake Henry

10.  Lloyd Evans - Gloucesater

9.    Harry Cochrane

1. Dan Murphy

2. Will Tanner

3. Gareth Denman - Gloucester

4. Alex Craig - Gloucester

5. Simon Linsell (c)

6. Akapusi Qera

7. Jake Heenan - Bristolish via Ashton Gate

8. Sam Graham - Bristol

 

Replacements:

16.  Luke Stratford

17.  Des Merrey

18.  Joe Morris - Worcester

19.  Ehize Ehizode - Bristol

20.  Tom Dodd

21.  Charlie Chapman - Gloucester

22.  Jamie Forrester


Only 11 - could take two more.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ruckinspector Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 17:38
Am i missing something here? If more than 50% of your starting team is not from your actual club then surely you have to change the name? South West Barbarians? Further Education Hired Hands RFC? As previously stated this is within the rules but whatever happened to the spirit of rugby? I wonder how the players who chose to study at Hartpury and play top flight rugby are feeling? Not sure how Hartpury can call themselves semi-professional with 11 full time professional players in the matchday squad? It has certainly become a Goliath v David match -would be nice to see the same result, however unlikely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RobC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 17:44
Just looking at a pre season article in which the Hartpury Head Coach makes no secret of seeing 'what loan players we can get dual registered with the Premiership clubs we work with'.

As such we perhaps shouldn't be surprised that he is now seeking even more loanees.

He talks about a balance between Hartpury players and loaned players so I suppose one could argue that with an 11 /11 split in this week's squad he's achieved that...


https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/experienced-signings-help-put-harpury-1765855
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hoffee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 18:17
11 loan players in a match day squad is taking the p***!! That shouldn't be allowed, they may as well be an entirely new team. I for one will be happy to see the back of Hartpury should they be relegated.
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If what they are doing is within the regs they can't be blamed. 
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Just because something is in the regs doesn’t also mean it can’t be criticised. 3 or 4 DRs in a match day squad is good for player development but 11 is taking the piss. I too will be rooting for Richmond in this one over the Hartpury ringers. This is not the premiership A league and shouldn’t be treated as such. Richmond offer far more to this league, proper rugby club with a decent fan base whereas Hartpury’s only supporters are alumni and friends and family of the players.
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Akapusi Qera not mentioned as one of the 11. What’s he studying?
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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Akapusi Qera not mentioned as one of the 11. What’s he studying?
 

He actually signed for them.

I was speaking with someone at the Blues and they were saying Hartpury had accepted that really ND1 was their level, but judging by the actions it looks like they are trying to cling on.

It was also felt that the top of ND1 was weak compared to previous years.
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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Just because something is in the regs doesn’t also mean it can’t be criticised. 3 or 4 DRs in a match day squad is good for player development but 11 is taking the piss. I too will be rooting for Richmond in this one over the Hartpury ringers. This is not the premiership A league and shouldn’t be treated as such. Richmond offer far more to this league, proper rugby club with a decent fan base whereas Hartpury’s only supporters are alumni and friends and family of the players.

Not saying it shouldn't be criticised, but they are doing what they think might save them from the drop. Leeds are doing it differently by bringing in a load of Kiwis. 
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Leeds are doing it very differently by hiring those players into their own squad, not just borrowing them.
They also did it intelligently by treating the cup as a pre-season for the second half of the season.
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Originally posted by Hoffee Hoffee wrote:

11 loan players in a match day squad is taking the p***!! That shouldn't be allowed, they may as well be an entirely new team. I for one will be happy to see the back of Hartpury should they be relegated.

Speaking as a spectator in Nat 1 I think most clubs were glad to see the back of Hartpury when they got promoted into the Championship, their taxpayer funded team, filled with premier division players "On loan" took the P**s big style in our division where most of the traditional rugby clubs were working their backsides off to support their team and sustain playing rugby at this level without the privilege of taxpayer funds that Hartpury enjoy.

Whilst it is cold comfort to see they are struggling, I really hope they stay up and we get a "Proper" rugby club down in our division.     
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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Just because something is in the regs doesn’t also mean it can’t be criticised. 3 or 4 DRs in a match day squad is good for player development but 11 is taking the piss. I too will be rooting for Richmond in this one over the Hartpury ringers. This is not the premiership A league and shouldn’t be treated as such. Richmond offer far more to this league, proper rugby club with a decent fan base whereas Hartpury’s only supporters are alumni and friends and family of the players.


Clap Clap Clap Hartpury are not a rugby club as such, whist they dropped the "College" off their name they still enjoy facilities provided by the taxpayer that would be totally unsustainable if they had to survive like a "Proper" club with finances generated by hard working members, I doubt their 150 spectators each week could afford to pay any of the players they have who are employed by the college. whilst I am rooting for Richmond I hope Hartpury stay in your division we don't really want them in in Nat 1 again!! 
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I had to smile when Dewi Morris during the recent Hartpury v Doncaster screened game whilst
 praising one of the Hartpury players informed us that he was employed at the college as an "assistant groundsman"
At least some of the Loughborough  players are students !
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Originally posted by DGS Old Boy DGS Old Boy wrote:

Originally posted by Hoffee Hoffee wrote:

11 loan players in a match day squad is taking the p***!! That shouldn't be allowed, they may as well be an entirely new team. I for one will be happy to see the back of Hartpury should they be relegated.

Speaking as a spectator in Nat 1 I think most clubs were glad to see the back of Hartpury when they got promoted into the Championship, their taxpayer funded team, filled with premier division players "On loan" took the P**s big style in our division where most of the traditional rugby clubs were working their backsides off to support their team and sustain playing rugby at this level without the privilege of taxpayer funds that Hartpury enjoy.

Whilst it is cold comfort to see they are struggling, I really hope they stay up and we get a "Proper" rugby club down in our division.     

Couldn't agree more!
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