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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 12:33
Richard - I think that is the most important part, less replacements so players have to lighter and fitter, and ball need to be in play longer!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 12:45
To move the ball into space rather than take contact requires the space to be there. It is difficult to create space against a well-organised defence, look at Ireland last weekend, the only space they created was through the chip ahead for Ringrose's try. If a well-organised defence takes away the space then the attacking team are left only with the option of taking contact or kicking, on both occasions hoping for a defensive error. Referees need to be really strict on offside lines, keeping players back, particularly from scrums when the tight location of 16 players should lead to more space being available.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 14:58
Halliford you make good points. My frustration is that when England have by kicking gained field position and are in the opposition 22 they still insist on kicking the ball away instead of creating pressure and scoring tries. They have scored some good tries from kicks but they have also wasted a far higher number of chances to score as seen in all of the last 3 internationals they have played against inferior opposition
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 15:34
Point taken Marigold, however as a coach I would prefer my team to play the same way all the time, as the All Blacks do, than changing the game to suit the opposition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 16:13
What lose?LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 19:08
Yes, but we are playing the same way all the time and that’s what matters!😂😂
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 20:39
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

To move the ball into space rather than take contact requires the space to be there. It is difficult to create space against a well-organised defence, look at Ireland last weekend, the only space they created was through the chip ahead for Ringrose's try. If a well-organised defence takes away the space then the attacking team are left only with the option of taking contact or kicking, on both occasions hoping for a defensive error. Referees need to be really strict on offside lines, keeping players back, particularly from scrums when the tight location of 16 players should lead to more space being available.

There is plenty of space - 15* men can't and don't occupy a full pitch.  Good players will find the space - whether by running into it, passing into it or kicking in it.  I see it all the time - both live and on TV how the players - at all level bunch into space and don't have the vision to look beyond the immediate ball carry or contact. 

When a team defends against a pick and drive by committing a full pack - then the space lays out on the outside, but rarely will the ball travel this far - it will be taking back into contact (yawn!), kicked aimlessly away (snore) or the referee will blow up (now asleep). 

*15 as a defensive line to beat.  Take a the width of a pitch to be 68m min, divide by the 15 players strung out across this gives you a gap of approx 4 metres per player.  In reality it be wider because the players will drift across to cover, narrowing on oneside creating space on the other. This is where the vision and skill to exploit those gaps isn't happening.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 2020 at 07:14
Richard, the width approach doesn’t allow for the line speed of the defenders as they close down the attackers. You cannot pass the ball across the pitch quickly enough for it to stop the last defender closing down the last receiver. In order to penetrate a defence something has to change - the speed of the runner, the direction of the runner or the point of attack. Even then it often requires an error by the defence or the creation of a mismatch for an attack to penetrate. When I coached I used a lot of ideas from American Football. One was the simple approach - an offensive unit sets out its structure but so does the defensive unit. Sometimes what the defence does cancels out the offence so the quarterback has to go to a back-up play. That happens increasingly now in top-level rugby, particularly with England.
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