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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2018 at 16:10
As I understand it from twitter and posts lesewhere:
 
There was an issue them being asked to play 5 games in 3 weeks to complete by the original date.
Consett did not complete their games until the following week and drew level  by beating Durham in the midweek game.
Durham could have played on April 28th, but had players missing on May 5th.
I believe they offered an alternative date - but were told it had to be on that date,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Welshwonder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2018 at 19:33
Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

How can you not raise a team for a playoff?
The issue would appear that there was lack of trained front row forwards for the game vs Scarborough, hence the walkover; question would be why couldn't Durham City play on the alternative date offered of May 12th, Driffield were permitted to play on that date due to a wedding party taking place and a marquee erected on the pitch on 5th May, all very odd.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thelazy8 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2018 at 19:51
Originally posted by Welshwonder Welshwonder wrote:

Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

How can you not raise a team for a playoff?
The issue would appear that there was lack of trained front row forwards for the game vs Scarborough, hence the walkover; question would be why couldn't Durham City play on the alternative date offered of May 12th, Driffield were permitted to play on that date due to a wedding party taking place and a marquee erected on the pitch on 5th May, all very odd.

Could it be related to some of them being on tour. It looks like they are in Sri Lanka where tragic news broke today about one of their players died and another is in hospital after suffering breathing difficulties after returning from a night out yesterday. Shocking news.
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An explanation from the Northumberland/Durham Rugby forum


http://dnrugby.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=qou5bt8vddtgbjvhcgg3r568g3&topic=2138.0



Consett's bonus point win against Gateshead on Saturday placed us joint first in the league based on league points scored, number of bonus points, number of games won and almost identical points scored; we were pipped at the post for the league title by the points against and therefore a poorer points difference, putting us at second place, and thus in a play-off for promotion to North 1 East.

Scarborough Rugby Union Football Club finished second in the Yorkshire 1 league and therefore we were scheduled to play each other for the promotion position.

Despite having played 5 games in 2 weeks in a (successful) bid to complete our fixtures ahead of the scheduled play-off date of 28 April, we were at the mercy of Consett completing their fixtures too; unfortunately their final (league deciding) game did not take place until 28 April. On Monday we received an email informing us that the play-off was to be played on bank holiday weekend, Saturday 5 May. Unfortunately, our boys, having been told by the RFU that we were to ensure completion of our games by the schediuled play-off date of 28 April, had made their personal plans on that basis. We now find that we are unable to field a team on 5 May, particularly a front row with substitute as health and safetly requirements dictate.

Despite us having offered alternative dates later in the month, the RFU Northern Competitions committee have insisted that the game must be played on the next available Saturday, ie 5 May, and therefore, given our position, the game cannot be played. The following weekend both we and Scarborough are hosting a County game and Scarborough are also playing in the Yorkshire Shield final. Our request for the game to take place the following weekend has been declined which means that Scarborough will gain automatic promotion and we will remain in DN1 for another year. We are disappointed in the stance taken by the RFU in what has been an exceptional end to the season; please be assured we have taken every step possible to raise our concerns at the highest level but the decision still stands.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopping Mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2018 at 21:30
The RFU North Competition Committee’s approach has often this season caused clubs issues.

Inconsistent application of their own rules leading to some clubs getting favourable treatment whilst others threatened with the consequences of not doing things by their stated rules.

They need to remember their role is to support their member clubs, not dictate policy a d then only when they want to.

Under the rules could City have not loaned in a front row player or two? It’s generally only positions where can take action post registration deadlines.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Ford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2018 at 22:15
Given the terrible weather suffered by many clubs and the late playoff being due to another club being unable to get their fixtures sorted out it seems completely draconian for the RFU North to insist on this course of action.

If they want to be such sticklers for regulation why hadn't they demanded that Consett complete all their games by the 28th April? 

I can actually see more and more why the lower level Lancashire teams have had enough and decided to form their own leagues!

Although i'm sure Durham are too busy dealing with the terrible events in Sri Lanka to give any of this much more thought.

Edited by Count Ford - 14 May 2018 at 22:41
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2018 at 00:34
Consett played 7,11,14,19,21 and 28th April.
The fixture on the 28th was against Gateshead -who were playing on 25th against Ponteland.

Now it might  have made sense to swap the Gateshead fixtures as Ponteland fixture only affected relegation and not a play-off place. 

Of course had Ponteland had had the extra recovery and Gateshead the fatigue, Ponteland might have won and stayed up - rather than losing by 4.

I do wonder what would have happened if Durham had hosted the match and declared the pitch unfit?

But as others have said - the tragic events in Sri Lanka are more important.
Our thoughts are with the family and friends left behind and the player still in hospital.

Info about Clem's Pirates XV and their fundraising, here and here 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carlos fandango Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2018 at 16:42
The Independent is reporting that both players are now dead in Sri Lanka.

Terrible tragedy for their families and my condolences to all who knew them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2018 at 17:16
I have such fantastic memories of tours and some of the daft and rather wild things we got up to, and yet it always ended well. Tragic is an often overused word, but this is a tradgedy.My heart goes out to all involved.
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