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[QUOTE=WESTCOMBE RANGER]Perhaps you should take over the running of the Competition ? [/QUOTE

There will not be a Senior Kent Cup next season. For one Blackheath didn't even enter the competition this season as they no longer have a second team and other sides chose to concentrate on their league positions even though they entered. Plus its an extra few games that the players will need paying!


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Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Ha ha, have a day off will you. 1st game was pulled as the pitch was unplayable, the photo was a picture of a snow covered pitch that has been used multiple times when games have fallen foul of the weather and in no way representative of the pitch on the day.
Just for balance and the introduction of actual facts, the pitch was snow covered and frozen in parts, the previous weeks weather had meant that the pitch was not marked out and with snow covering the pitch, no prospect of the pitch being marked out. The pitch was unplayable. Get over it.
2nd time we couldn’t get a side out so you got the walkover, pretty straightforward and factually correct.

How are Combe in the Final you ask. Well how the comp works, if you drop out of the cup competition either by losing or awarding the oppo a walkover, you drop into the plate comp. We were due to play Old Dunstonians in the semi final but for one reason or another the game didn’t go ahead. It was decided by coin toss that was witnessed by others to ensure fair play. Combe won the toss and will now play the final v Canterbury

You accuse Combe of somehow ruining Kent rugby yet even you with obvious limited intelligence and sketchy grasp of what’s truth and what’s made up nonsense could look at the Kent website and see that out of 11 games scheduled across the Kent Cup, Plate and Sheild, only 3 games have actually been played. The issue is clearly with the competition. TJ,’s, Medway and Blackeath have also forfeited games and several clubs didn’t even bother to enter but I don’t see you attempting discredit any of those clubs. I also didn’t see you piping up and digging at Combe until we were relegated to a league below you!

Now I doubt l have the last word on this as you will undoubtedly come back with some more contrived nonsense but may I suggest if you do wish to respond please do so via PM as I’m sure everyone is completely bored of this.

Alternatively, you know who I am and you know I’ll be at the finals day at Charlton Park. I’ll be on the touch line supporting Combe and I’ll be staying to watch the Oe’s/Sidcup final, hoping for a similar spectacle as last years game. Feel free to introduce yourself and I’d be happy to continue this discussion over a beer!






So the truth hurts you so much that you cant keep things factual. There was nothing wrong with your pitch and you might want to be reminded that this is season 2018/19 and Blackheath didn't even enter the Kent Cup competition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sir_Q Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 11:51
Wow, still going.

How desperately pathetic!!!

I think you need to look a bit closer to home at your own clubs shortcomings before throwing stones and remember "be careful who you kick on your way up..............................!!!"

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now now! its all fun, lets not bitch too much, we are all friends!

Camberley v Brighton - Too much for Brighton
Chichester v Combe - Chichester win, Combe will be looking forward to piss up after.
Chobham v Hove - Hove to bid farewell with a win
Dartfordians v Totts - Darts will take advantage of the trip from totes
Havant v Medway - Medway to have there final push for slim chance of promotion 
Cornish v Cobham - Cobham win
Thurrock v Oaks - Thurrock to cause a last minute upset.
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Got the popcorn at the ready 🍿
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Truwblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 13:56
The Kent Cup RIP. I remember when the first round proper you'd get at least 16 clubs giving their all. A sad reflection of the devlopment of league rugby. However if few want to play why bother and this is the natural end of most of County cups now. Cup games were always on a Sunday and it was a  good get together for all those who played their friendly (yes, remember them!?) on the Saturday to watch the first team. Sometimes the first team would play their friendly too on the Saturday...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 16:09
Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Originally posted by Rugby70 Rugby70 wrote:

Sir_Q.......westCombeThamians, get the little w, couldn’t get a side out twice to play in the Kent Cup against Sidcup and because your guy runs it managed to get to the plate final. What a disgrace. You make out on this forum that you will play Sidcup 2s under lights but no one has heard from you. Whose the idiot?


So you are now accusing the Kent Competion manager John Day of cheating!

Looking at your posts attacking guildford and Combe I don’t expect anything classy, particularly factual or remotely intelligent from you but to openly and publicly accuse a county official of cheating is a bit strong.

Shame on you!


Think he has a point though, how can a team that scratches from the cup get a place in the plate?
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Word from Cam match report is that injuries vs Medway will also impact their starting team this weekend, they've lost both centres (one of them Cpt.) and neither are in the squad for Saturday. Looks like the club with the most depth in squad will take the spoils! I'll be watching at the Watchetts! 

Camberley Vs. Brighton - Cam to take top spot with another 5 points
Chichester v Combe - Chichester will be very familiar with WP, and wont let this game slip against a hit and miss WP.
Chobham v Hove - What a result for Hove against Cornish! Backing Hove to finally come through!
Dartfordians v Totts - Totts recent run vs all top sides to finally result in a fruitful weekend for them! LBP Darts
Havant v Medway - Havant have proved how hard it is to visit them! But Medway will be hurting and are still in the race. 
Cornish v Cobham - Cobham win - rubbish place to visit for the last game of the season - why no club house or beers? Only kidding! Tight contest this one!
Thurrock v Oaks - Oaks for victory but no BP, LBP Thurrock


What a season it has been in LS1!

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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Originally posted by Rugby70 Rugby70 wrote:

Sir_Q.......westCombeThamians, get the little w, couldn’t get a side out twice to play in the Kent Cup against Sidcup and because your guy runs it managed to get to the plate final. What a disgrace. You make out on this forum that you will play Sidcup 2s under lights but no one has heard from you. Whose the idiot?


So you are now accusing the Kent Competion manager John Day of cheating!

Looking at your posts attacking guildford and Combe I don’t expect anything classy, particularly factual or remotely intelligent from you but to openly and publicly accuse a county official of cheating is a bit strong.

Shame on you!


Think he has a point though, how can a team that scratches from the cup get a place in the plate?

Raider, His point is that as the County Competition Secretary is a Combe man he cheated to ensure Combe made the plate final, this is absolutely not the case. John Day will be devastated to be accused of such nonsense. 

As far as being in the plate after scratching in the Cup, its a valid question but without this happening, the plate comp wold not happen. Its how the comp works and we don't make the rules.

The bigger issue is that OE's and Sidcup will contest the Cup Final, Westcombe Park and Canterbury will contest the Plate Final and Charlton Park and Gravesend will contest the shield final. So 6 teams in the finals with the sum total of only 3 games being played. 3 teams are in the finals without playing any rugby at all, Combe being one of those teams.

As someone else said, it used to be a fantastic competition with several clubs going all out to win the thing such was it's prestige, we have has some momentous battles with the likes of Canterbury and Blackheath in the past and our clubhouse is littered with photo's of those days when it really meant something. Sadly it's a mere shadow of the comp it used to be ad county rugby is the worse for it.
The county are aware and are looking at ways to make it more attractive going forward but I don't suppose Kent are the only County that now struggles with it County club competition. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lord_Kitchener Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 17:32
Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Originally posted by Rugby70 Rugby70 wrote:

Sir_Q.......westCombeThamians, get the little w, couldn’t get a side out twice to play in the Kent Cup against Sidcup and because your guy runs it managed to get to the plate final. What a disgrace. You make out on this forum that you will play Sidcup 2s under lights but no one has heard from you. Whose the idiot?


So you are now accusing the Kent Competion manager John Day of cheating!

Looking at your posts attacking guildford and Combe I don’t expect anything classy, particularly factual or remotely intelligent from you but to openly and publicly accuse a county official of cheating is a bit strong.

Shame on you!


Think he has a point though, how can a team that scratches from the cup get a place in the plate?


Raider, His point is that as the County Competition Secretary is a Combe man he cheated to ensure Combe made the plate final, this is absolutely not the case. John Day will be devastated to be accused of such nonsense. 

As far as being in the plate after scratching in the Cup, its a valid question but without this happening, the plate comp wold not happen. Its how the comp works and we don't make the rules.

The bigger issue is that OE's and Sidcup will contest the Cup Final, Westcombe Park and Canterbury will contest the Plate Final and Charlton Park and Gravesend will contest the shield final. So 6 teams in the finals with the sum total of only 3 games being played. 3 teams are in the finals without playing any rugby at all, Combe being one of those teams.

As someone else said, it used to be a fantastic competition with several clubs going all out to win the thing such was it's prestige, we have has some momentous battles with the likes of Canterbury and Blackheath in the past and our clubhouse is littered with photo's of those days when it really meant something. Sadly it's a mere shadow of the comp it used to be ad county rugby is the worse for it.
The county are aware and are looking at ways to make it more attractive going forward but I don't suppose Kent are the only County that now struggles with it County club competition. 


Surrey got it right this year with the main Surrey Cup Final without a separate qualifying game being held. Dorking, Guildford, Sutton and Wimbledon used the 6 games that they played against each other and the points earned from those game s to decide the top 2. Sutton and Wimbledon will play in the final, which is pretty reflective. Doubling up league/cup games has worked with such a congested season already. Could the same model be applied in Kent to an extent?
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what happens next season with the possible prospect of both Sutton and Wimbledon being promoted, that leaves Dorking and Guildford automatically in the final, regardless of points !!
If you applied that to Hampshire it would mean Havant being winners without having to play a game at all! It possibly could've worked in Kent this season because of the amount of teams in the same league but the final would have to be played after the season has ended because if it happened to be Medway v Sevenoaks they would be worried to death of injuries and field very weakened sides..the county cups need a massive rethink because it seems they are doomed in their present format


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Plus ca change plus ca meme chose!
Guess the question is will the change happen? As alluded to earlier it could be down to the finest margins of fortune or fitness, ,there is many a slip twixt cup and lip as they say...so here goes:

Cam v Brighton I would guess that Camberley despite injuries(really?) will prevail to reverse the loss they suffered away from home.
Chi v Combe Rob will not be celebrating winning the league at Chichester and if all things fall into place neither will he celebrate a win, Chi to win both 1st and 2nd's fixtures.
Chobham v Hove Hove to build on last week, defeat their away jitters and WIN!!! hopefully....
Darts v Totts Darts at home will want to jump a place and should nail this nail-biter.
Hav v Medway Disappointed with Medway last week but think they will bounce back with a win against tough opponents but they will have to silence the Havant Faithful first.
LC v Cobham battle of the back lines, fancy LC to take the spoils in what points to be a high scoring game.
Thurrock v Mighty Oaks Thurrock are one of the most improved teams of late but Oaks are canny and can exploit a momentary lapse and they want to top that table so away win.

The end is nigh and it is with some sadness that this is the final chapter...still I hear London South Directors Cut is due to show at a ground near you in September 2019...

Wishing everyone a fantastic Saturday and a tantalising end to the season. May the best teams win!
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Well not much point in going to Cam tomorrow as most of the predictions look like a 5 point BP win for them...
Hold on, they have a beer festival and a Hog roast and it looks a bit like a cup final day (Kent boys no pun intended)
Have a great day, whoever your supporting!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rugby70 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2019 at 20:01
Originally posted by Sir_Q Sir_Q wrote:

Wow, still going.

How desperately pathetic!!!

I think you need to look a bit closer to home at your own clubs shortcomings before throwing stones and remember "be careful who you kick on your way up..............................!!!"



Let’s stop the tit for tat. It is convenient that John Day runs the Kent Cup and with the rules I am not saying he is a cheat. What annoys me is that WP scratched both games and should have given a walk over to Dunstonians to play Canterbury in the Plate Final. Nothing I have said is not factual and you know as well as I do that the events I posted are true.
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We will also know 1 more team in Lon 1 S 2019/20 by close of play tomorrow, either Horsham or Farnham. After that, just wait for the Lon 1 Play Off and the level transfer shenanigans to commence as no sides down from Lon Prem means maybe 2 and possibly 3 new teams coming across from Lon 1 N...
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PS Karlos, if I were a neutral, the hog roast and beer festival would have swayed it for me too, and I owe you a pint my friend!
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Yes definitely Pig Out! The rugby fast will hit most of us from tomorrow so why not prolong the celebration of a great season?

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Let's hope it's Farnham, cos endless trips around the M25 are annoying!! and need a club closer to home after losing Totts, Chobham and Hove this year🙁
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Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

LK
what happens next season with the possible prospect of both Sutton and Wimbledon being promoted, that leaves Dorking and Guildford automatically in the final, regardless of points !!
If you applied that to Hampshire it would mean Havant being winners without having to play a game at all! It possibly could've worked in Kent this season because of the amount of teams in the same league but the final would have to be played after the season has ended because if it happened to be Medway v Sevenoaks they would be worried to death of injuries and field very weakened sides..the county cups need a massive rethink because it seems they are doomed in their present format

Not necessarily as LIWG will be back in contention next season as well.

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Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

LK
what happens next season with the possible prospect of both Sutton and Wimbledon being promoted, that leaves Dorking and Guildford automatically in the final, regardless of points !!
If you applied that to Hampshire it would mean Havant being winners without having to play a game at all! It possibly could've worked in Kent this season because of the amount of teams in the same league but the final would have to be played after the season has ended because if it happened to be Medway v Sevenoaks they would be worried to death of injuries and field very weakened sides..the county cups need a massive rethink because it seems they are doomed in their present format

It wouldn't have worked in Kent as there are only 2 "Kent" sides in N3SE (I don't count Sidcup as Kent, they're London really). Unless you have TW and Sidcup play each other twice for the final spot in the league then have the L1 teams do the same for the invite. Hardly fair on the lower league clubs.
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