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    Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 22:39
all quiet over there.
 
what is the situation.
 
statbunker says only 3 replacements and the losing margins are consistently huge.
 
will they field a side come 2010/2011
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 23:02
The team that turned up at Newbury had plenty of spirit and encouraged each other throughout the match. They were literally and metaphorically applauded at every opportunity.
Ten Bath supporters, fazed by a trip to Newcastle, booked a table for lunch and cheered Manchester as a gesture of appreciation for their resolve in the face of adversity. A real act of rugby fealty.
Sadly, only one gallant gentleman turned up to represent the committee aspect of the club.
Whatever the future holds, the present team and good lady coach are setting an example that HQ should recognise as being way above the flagitious goings on that they are allowing in the league above.
Good luck to you Manchester. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 2010 at 23:16
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Good luck to the coaches and players unfortunately the 1 commitee man who bothered to turn up is exactly why the club is in the mess its in. Ask any club that entertains Manchester players and coaches always have given there best but nobody turns up to support or respectfully attend the pre match pleasantries .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 07:52
Manchester clearly have some very committed people in their playing squad.  These are the very people who should be steering the Club's future.

The players, if they realise it or not, have won a lot of admirers who could be very useful friends in the future if the Club looks to re-establish itself.  If the players stepped up to the plate in running the club in the same way that they have stepped up on the pitch, then they have the foundations of a really strong organisation.  I am sure that there are plenty in the NCA to give advice and support.  Good luck to them all
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 08:18

Yup, I'll add my support

Their continued presence every week, taking the lumps for the consequences of the actions of those who are no longer present, is more than admirable even if, as alleged, some are being paid.

They represent the spirit of rugby in stark contrast to the clubs whose insolvency events have brought the game into such obvious disrepute.

I'd travel to watch Manchester play, that's not something I'd say about some of their former level 2 peers Angry

And before anybody gets on their high horse, I'm not suggesting that those who continue to support their clubs are misguided, just that the travails of Manchester this season are, in my opinion, an appropriate penance for the mal/mis/nonfeasance that preceded them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 09:38
Originally posted by RugbyNut RugbyNut wrote:

Eric
Good luck to the coaches and players unfortunately the 1 commitee man who bothered to turn up is exactly why the club is in the mess its in. Ask any club that entertains Manchester players and coaches always have given there best but nobody turns up to support or respectfully attend the pre match pleasantries .
 
Strange thing that with manchester.......2 years ago when they were second top to Otley they didnt send anyone to lunch either...no one.....not even an apology?
Yet when you go there they are very hospitable.
I can only assume as the committee seems pretty old and now thin on the ground....that 8 hours of car/coach travel is just not attractive to them, win , lose or draw.
They have shown great club spirit this year and im glad they look like they will now see it through....i feared they would fold earlier on.
And yes...well done to the lady coach.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 09:47
The Manchester team may be lacking the skills to compete as a whole unit at this level, but there certainly seemed to be a number of individual players who would be able to fit into most teams they face up to every weekend.. As others have said before, was impressed at the weekend to see the encouragement that they give each other throughout the game (but mostly when they're catching their breath under the posts and waiting for another conversion to be taken)
 
I was one of those at the very start of the season who voiced concerns that a team, which was so completely outclassed, may either suffer some serious injury in the scrum or be faced with a situtation where the ref felt that he couldn't allow a mismatch to continue as he could be held accountable for any injuries....
 
But it hasn't panned out like that.  The club have fulfilled all their fixtures and gained respect from all they play..... and are managing their fall down to a more comfortable level.
 
Good luck to them.....  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 19:33
Would echo all the sentiments and will be happy when we play them on the 27th to mark the start of their 150th celebrations. As well as the first team game there will be a vets game(?) and hopefully they can go on for another 150 at least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 19:53
I thought Newbury played reasonably well and with a few more conversions should have fairly easily have passed 100 points - there's also been a little confusion voiced over possible missed score!! But that said Manchester showed commitment and scored a deserved try which was well applauded by everyone.
So what is it that makes them so weak? Is it age, is it basic skills, is it fitness? etc I'm sure its a combination of all these and more, but it just goes to show it doesn't take much to be a success or a failure. I must say there were very very few Manchester fans - must be disappointing for all parties. Hope they find their level soon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 21:44

I hope thay go on for another 150 but with the support its difficult to see how

Rabbie - Just think of your 150th celebrations and what they entailed

Manchester have organised a game against Blackheath which is a league game (so NCA,RFU organised that) and a players re union (most are digusted by the way the club is been run and are sick off been asked for handouts with no future plans)

There are some good people at Manchester just not enough
 
Fat Albert if your trying to say that for overspend in previous years thay are paying for it now the budget must have been about 12p then !
Most people in the N/West no that several clubs locally and in lower leagues were spending far more on players.
The problem is 1 commitee man at away games 150 speccies at home no sponsors etc etc
 
I repeat there are some good people at Manchester but not enough !!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Mar 2010 at 23:59
No one seems to have answered the question.
 
Will they be around next year?
 
I suspect not so how will this affect the structure.
 
Yes, the players are paid - why else would they go out there every Sat.
 
and why do people keep saying well done to the lady coach - would they say the same about a man coaching a team to concede 15 tries a match?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2010 at 07:24
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Let's be clear, I am NOT criticising Manchester at all, I am simply stating that in my view, Birmingham, Coventry and possibly London Welsh (unless all creditors other than investor/shareholders have been paid) should be facing one season at, at least, level 3

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Quote and why do people keep saying well done to the lady coach - would they say the same about a man coaching a team to concede 15 tries a match?
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I know very little about the coach but I don't have to to admire persistence in the face of adversity, whatever the gender
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2010 at 07:25
Originally posted by Mersey Mersey wrote:

No one seems to have answered the question.
 
Will they be around next year?
 
I suspect not so how will this affect the structure.
 
Yes, the players are paid - why else would they go out there every Sat.
 
and why do people keep saying well done to the lady coach - would they say the same about a man coaching a team to concede 15 tries a match?


I have no doubt that Manchester will be around next season. Smile

The team and coaching staff quite rightly are admired for their committment. See previous postings on this board for instance. It is not just about money or whether the players are paid or not!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Mar 2010 at 10:08

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If it was down to the attitude of the playing and coaching staff Manchester would be around for the next 1500 years.

The point is

Only 1 team on a 25 acre site they have been down to 2/3 bench players (not sustainable)

Players been paid this season ( no funding next season in Nat 2 )
Several of there better players are looking for pastures new
Behind the playing and coaching staff and a very few volunteers there isnt the will, desire or gumption to carry on.
This isnt a new thing this has been going on for years held together by a few hence the position there in today.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 18:16
I hear that Manchester has a new Chairman and officers.

Can anyone confirm?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 11:31
The Rugby Club had an AGM on Weds/Thurs not sure
The position of chairman as been vacant since the last one resigned
So May have a new chairman ? other positions I dont know but will chase up with my friends at Grove Park
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 21:01
Just seen on the Manchester website that they are advertising for a new head coach for next season. Part of a plan to build for the future, it say's.
Good luck to them and I hope that they find someone who can stabilise the clubs fortunes. They need a very, very brave person indeed but I'm sure that someone is out there.
How the hell they've managed to carry on all season, losing by a huge margin week after week after week is amazing. I was talking with some of the Otley lads who were totally dumbstruck after the mauling they had last week at Esher. Imagine that scenario every single week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 09:43

Talking to a few of my Manchester friends last night over a pint or 3. They were a little more positive about the future.

New Player coach been appointed former player, hopes he will bring players to club
 
New Chairman is a mini Junior coach with PLANS for a future ( a little worried this was mainly M&J plans though)
 
Training pitch been repaired after several years out of use
 
On website 3/4 junior teams won Lancs cup last weekend
 
Apparently club steward and chef resigned last month ? dont know if thats good or not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 12:45
RN, if you look round ND1 there are several leaders who have, or had, significant roles in their M&J section.  Stourbridge's chairman coaches their Under 12s, LS's entire leadership seem to have come through the youth ranks, SP's Chairman still has a significant involvement in their M&J section - those three clubs alone aren't bad company to keep and I'd wager that there are many more out there too.

fair play to manc in finding someone to step up to the plate, let alone a relatively young man - I hear he even had 20 minutes for Manc in a recent ND1 game; hats off to the man!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 14:09
I am a little concerned to hear that the RFU allowed them to play there recent League game against Esher with a number of unregistered players without sanction, setting aside the insurance issue, and the fact that the league had already been won and lost, This is a dangerous precedent to set.
I believe that they have already been recruiting for next season with apparantly 17 new players plus a further 10 in the pipe line, it will be interesting to see where these players are coming from, one apparant option is a further link up with Sale as their proposed new coach is connected to Sale, will this be the Sale Jets in another form?
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