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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Anyway, from the chat last Saturday at Brickfields, you appear have enough to worry about without having to keep an eye on your ungracious match reporter.  

Another 10 matches should see them safe, even with a 30 points reduction, and condemn another well managed club to Nat2
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Anyway, from the chat last Saturday at Brickfields, you appear have enough to worry about without having to keep an eye on your ungracious match reporter.  


Another 10 matches should see them safe, even with a 30 points reduction, and condemn another well managed club to Nat2

Intriguing - could you shed some light on this 30 point deduction please.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote backrowb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 09:51
WR - Well it has been a bit of an historical habit with them.  I'm really unsure how any pro club outside (and sometimes inside) the prem keeps going.
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Ah OK Thanks- Was wondering whether another one was on the horizon, but doesn't seem so.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2017 at 10:16
I am not sure who the well run club is.

We "all know" that Fylde have only ever survived by luring players with the prospect of County rugby; Old Albanians survive on Saracens money; Rosslyn Park rely on a sugar daddy and Loughbourough are paid by the state.

Ah - he must mean Hull Ionians. 

I think they should be safe.

Though if RFU do decide to reduce the size of the Premiership and Championship - we could have four teams coming down, so might have six down two up - or worse.
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Didn’t know Park had a sugar daddy. I thought the bulk of their income comes from those great big advertising boards.
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

The use of the name 'Hull' was by Fake Shemp. I think he is from DMP and a Northener should know better.
I meant absolutely no disrespect referring to the club as Hull, which I've never been told is considered a faux pas and something I'll avoid doing in future. I'm not "from DMP", but am a supporter of the club.
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It's their own fault. They aren't even in Hull. Perhaps they should rename to Elloughtonians
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

It's their own fault. They aren't even in Hull. Perhaps they should rename to Elloughtonians

Have been following this thread with some amusement. Do I detect some Northern banter going on 😉
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fat Albert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 10:37
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by bullwhip griffen bullwhip griffen wrote:

In the kingdom of the blind----
The cryptic quotation is meaningless.
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Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

It's their own fault. They aren't even in Hull. Perhaps they should rename to Elloughtonians
 
Would that be 'Old Elloughtonians'? 
 
Referring to Hull Ionians as just 'Hull' can bring confusion.
We retain the 'Hull' in our name as we are proud of our roots and our association with 'the' Hull & East Riding RUFC.
 
Anyway, I think we are actually located in the parish of Brantingham.
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

Didn’t know Park had a sugar daddy. I thought the bulk of their income comes from those great big advertising boards.
 
...or through a massive mark up on burger sales and saving money by not heating the water in the away side showers!
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

It's their own fault. They aren't even in Hull. Perhaps they should rename to Elloughtonians
 
Would that be 'Old Elloughtonians'? 
 
Referring to Hull Ionians as just 'Hull' can bring confusion.
We retain the 'Hull' in our name as we are proud of our roots and our association with 'the' Hull & East Riding RUFC.
 
Anyway, I think we are actually located in the parish of Brantingham.
I suppose it's the same way that Darlington Mowden Park is an amalgamation of Darlington Grammar School Old Boys and incorporating the lengthy period from when they played at Yiewsley Drive on Mowden estate. Some people refer to the club as "Darlington", "Mowden" or "DMP" – it doesn't matter because I know who they're talking about; most supporters will be the same.. I tend to use Mowden because it's force of habit because I first played for the minis when I was five years old and it's also one syllable shorter than DMP!

There is no chance of anyone here seeing the word 'Darlington' and thinking it's a reference to either Darlington RFC, currently playing in Durham/Northumberland 2, or the defunct Darlington Railway Athletic RUFC.  Given the two divisions between Hull Ionians and Hull RUFC, I would hope people on this forum are familiar enough with club names not to be confused. I have to admit being initially puzzled by the references to 'Club' when I first joined and (without any prior knowledge of the history) took me a week or so to realise it meant Blackheath.

Is there a preference for how Birmingham Moseley RFC are referred? I know confusion with Birmingham & Solihull RFC is unlikely, but possible for newcomers who may be used to seeing them called 'Bees' or something else.
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Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

It's their own fault. They aren't even in Hull. Perhaps they should rename to Elloughtonians

 
Would that be 'Old Elloughtonians'? 
 
Referring to Hull Ionians as just 'Hull' can bring confusion.
We retain the 'Hull' in our name as we are proud of our roots and our association with 'the' Hull & East Riding RUFC.
 
Anyway, I think we are actually located in the parish of Brantingham.
I suppose it's the same way that Darlington Mowden Park is an amalgamation of Darlington Grammar School Old Boys and incorporating the lengthy period from when they played at Yiewsley Drive on Mowden estate. Some people refer to the club as "Darlington", "Mowden" or "DMP" – it doesn't matter because I know who they're talking about; most supporters will be the same.. I tend to use Mowden because it's force of habit because I first played for the minis when I was five years old and it's also one syllable shorter than DMP!

There is no chance of anyone here seeing the word 'Darlington' and thinking it's a reference to either Darlington RFC, currently playing in Durham/Northumberland 2, or the defunct Darlington Railway Athletic RUFC.  Given the two divisions between Hull Ionians and Hull RUFC, I would hope people on this forum are familiar enough with club names not to be confused. I have to admit being initially puzzled by the references to 'Club' when I first joined and (without any prior knowledge of the history) took me a week or so to realise it meant Blackheath.

Is there a preference for how Birmingham Moseley RFC are referred? I know confusion with Birmingham & Solihull RFC is unlikely, but possible for newcomers who may be used to seeing them called 'Bees' or something else.


The Birmingham Moseley name change had a mixed view from supporters. I think it was to try and put us on the map so to speak as the old name was not known as a team from Birmingham by some. At an away game once someone said to me are we from Manchester. The other reason was to attract sponsors and attract people to use the facilities. I had no problem with the change.
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Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:


Is there a preference for how Birmingham Moseley RFC are referred? I know confusion with Birmingham & Solihull RFC is unlikely, but possible for newcomers who may be used to seeing them called 'Bees' or something else.


My preference is "Mose" and always give reference  that way , out of respect .

Hopefully it does not offend a Mose supporter .
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Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

 
The Birmingham Moseley name change had a mixed view from supporters. I think it was to try and put us on the map so to speak as the old name was not known as a team from Birmingham by some. At an away game once someone said to me are we from Manchester. The other reason was to attract sponsors and attract people to use the facilities. I had no problem with the change.
At least the name has something to do with where the club is based, unlike when sponsorship takes over and the other team from your fair city was known as Pertemps Bees! It was fortunate I followed the sport because it must have been very confusing for some casual rugby/general sport fans when they stunned Wasps in the PowerGen Cup in 2004.

Regarding Birmingham Moseley, I've always disregarded the 'Birmingham' part of the name because I have family in Brum so am aware Moseley is a suburb in the city. Those who are not so familiar with geography may make mistakes similar to the one you mentioned.

Obviously, no offence intended to any Birmingham & Solihull supporters!
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