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    Posted: 11 May 2010 at 22:28
As you will know there is a ladder in operation on this site - 

"The Ladder system enables your members to move up forum groups automatically depending on the number of posts they make. Once a member has made the minimum amount of posts for a Ladder User Group that member will be moved up to that user group."

The groups currently in use are
Academy player - upto 29 posts.
First XV squad 3- 59 posts.
First XV regular 60 - 149 posts.
British and Irish Lion - 150-299 posts
World Cup Winner above 300 posts.

I have had requests to update these groups bearing in mind more users are posting in greater numbers than ever before.

It appears that I can add further groups.

Do you have any suggestions to what these should be?
For example, should I include a 'Barbarian'  and 'Capped for your country' groups between First XV and British and Irish Lion?

Should World Cup winner be the highest or should there be something above?

Or should I replace the current groups with something totally new? Any suggestions?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 23:19
How about:
Colt 0-24
Academy player 25- 74
1st XV Cap 75-124
1st XV Regular 125-174
County Cap 175-224
Barbarian 225- 274
International Cap 275- 324
B&I Lion 325- 374
World Cup Winner 375- 449
Rugby legend 450+
 
In addition anyone who has a post removed due to innapropriate language, slander etc to be relegated a level - otherwise could get to be a rugby legend by posting errant nonsense
 


Edited by BillesleyNomad - 11 May 2010 at 23:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 00:17
If you dual reg, can both sets of posts count?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 01:19
Whatever 'sensible' level you put on, people will exceed it fairly rapidly: it is a persistent problem for posting ladders.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 07:31
Originally posted by BillesleyNomad BillesleyNomad wrote:

 
In addition anyone who has a post removed due to innapropriate language, slander etc to be relegated a level - otherwise could get to be a rugby legend by posting errant nonsense
 


Should that be to a level yet to be decided, for next season Wink


Edited by knightandday - 12 May 2010 at 07:34
Winning isn't everything, it just makes the beer taste better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 08:23
This is sensible but why not increase the spacing between them to cater for the posters who contribute most so it does not simply run out of promotions so quickly and they have nowhere to go.
 
I know it's not of the utmost importance in life but why ignore the most solid contributors.
 
Originally posted by BillesleyNomad BillesleyNomad wrote:

How about:
Colt 0-24
Academy player 25- 74
1st XV Cap 75-124
1st XV Regular 125-174
County Cap 175-224
Barbarian 225- 274
International Cap 275- 324
B&I Lion 325- 374
World Cup Winner 375- 449
Rugby legend 450+
 
In addition anyone who has a post removed due to innapropriate language, slander etc to be relegated a level - otherwise could get to be a rugby legend by posting errant nonsense
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 08:28
What about...
 
Local league player 0-30
Regional league player 30-74
National 2 player 75-124
National 1 player 125-174
Championship player 175-224
Premiership player 225-274
international A 275-324
Full international 325-374
British Lion 375-449
World cup winner 450-749
Legend 750+
 
Then you could make it more exciting by giving us a large sum of money once we get into the championship and and even bigger sum of money for getting to the premiership.
you could also get us to email you, our bank accounts every month and if we go overdrawn, you can kick us down a few levels (level to be determined by the size of the debt)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 08:43
Ok, being more serious.

This is a perennial problem with discussion boards and a scale like this only recognizes effort. It doesn't allow for:

- recognizing those who start the most thought provoking or diverse discussions (and hence are the lifeblood of the board)
- recognizing particularly insightful or informational posts
- peer recognition for quality of debate or contribution.

So, basically, I wouldn't bother to try to tweak it. The actual number of posts is already sjhown against each member's name; it doesn't take much effort to glance at this, if it's a name you are unfamipippins apple with.

Multiply all the post levels by 10, if you want to create some targets!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 09:59
 and don't forget the Old Lags XV players.............
"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 10:57
How about

Colts 0-19
Academy 20-39
4th XV 40-70
3rd XV 71-99
2nd XV 100-150
1stXV 151-200
County player 200 -250
B Cap  251-300
International 301-350
Lion 351-400
World Cup winner 401-500
Reserve Coach 501 -600
Head Coach 601-700
Director or Rugby 701-1000
Hall of Fame 1000+
If Winning isn't important, why do they keep the score.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 10:59
surely the ultimate needs to a council member, so can I be so bold as to propose that 1000+ posts makes you an old fart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 11:10
Originally posted by TC08 TC08 wrote:

Ok, being more serious.

This is a perennial problem with discussion boards and a scale like this only recognizes effort. It doesn't allow for:

- recognizing those who start the most thought provoking or diverse discussions (and hence are the lifeblood of the board)
- recognizing particularly insightful or informational posts
- peer recognition for quality of debate or contribution.

So, basically, I wouldn't bother to try to tweak it. The actual number of posts is already sjhown against each member's name; it doesn't take much effort to glance at this, if it's a name you are unfamipippins apple with.

Multiply all the post levels by 10, if you want to create some targets!

There are vote based systems that allow for this, I don't know if such an add on is available for this particular board system (this is the only place I have come across the software).

As a few other users have said, tweaking the rating system will only serve to encourage post w h o r i n g.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 11:22
I'm with loosehead with this. Sounds good to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 14:47
There's a first......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 15:21
Originally posted by TC08 TC08 wrote:

Ok, being more serious.

This is a perennial problem with discussion boards and a scale like this only recognizes effort. It doesn't allow for:

- recognizing those who start the most thought provoking or diverse discussions (and hence are the lifeblood of the board)
- recognizing particularly insightful or informational posts
- peer recognition for quality of debate or contribution.

So, basically, I wouldn't bother to try to tweak it. The actual number of posts is already sjhown against each member's name; it doesn't take much effort to glance at this, if it's a name you are unfamipippins apple with.

Multiply all the post levels by 10, if you want to create some targets!


unfamipippins apple = unf a m i l i a r (in case any doubt)


Edited by TC08 - 12 May 2010 at 15:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 17:16
Im with Loosehead, who it the top (im)poster?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 21:54
Originally posted by Axeman Axeman wrote:

Im with Loosehead, who it the top (im)poster?

You can always check the top posters by clicking on the memberlist - top right hand corner and filtering by number of posts.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2010 at 21:58
I object to the 4th team being lower than the 1st team on loosehead's list. Surely the average 4th teamer will have been around much longer than any 1st team player, and this should be reflected in the ladder.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 20:41
May I sugest making the step sizes logarithmic, thereby making each step harder to achieve?
e.g. 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, etc
or 10, 30, 100, 300, 1000, etc
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2010 at 20:51
who really cares
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