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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brummy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 13:55
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

Since when is Luke Daniels English? Brought up in South Africa .

Apparently he represented England Counties U20 and has been playing in this country for about six years, so presumably qualified on residency if not via parents/ grandparents.
He joined Esher in 2011. 7 years in England playing rugby.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 13:59
Just an idea.....born in the Country !
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 14:27
The context of the original statement was that the players were 'English'. This bloke's rugby upbringing was in South Africa and he,like me, was born there of English parents.As to how much more English you can get, the answer is to be actually born here.
I have no objection to his playing for Esher, Ealing or Bristol. Indeed I've seen him play several times and he's a credit to Grey College,where he went to school.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Motherrucker1982 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2018 at 17:56
Wow - didn't realise Daniels' nationality would cause such debate. I suppose I could've been clearer but I meant it in that he was now English 'qualified' to help with our quotas. But he's as English as many who've worn the Red Rose.....
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True.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

True.
and as Pappashanga quite rightly mentions previously he went to Grey High, the same school that Mike Catt went too. Kolisi (SA) was also there.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Just an idea.....born in the Country !
 
I think you will find that unlike the USA, our stringent current immigration rules mean that being born here does not automatically mean you are British.
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I found this on my old school web site-59 internationals and now add two more, Dillyn Leyds and Nizaam Carr.
https://sport.bishops.org.za/rugby/about/our-rugby-history/
The only one there when I was at school was Peter Whipp.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

I found this on my old school web site-59 internationals and now add two more, Dillyn Leyds and Nizaam Carr.
https://sport.bishops.org.za/rugby/about/our-rugby-history/
The only one there when I was at school was Peter Whipp.
Bishops had some famous cricketers too!
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Yes. I used to keep wicket to Vintcent van der Bijl in house matches. In my class we had him, Cheetham, son of Jack Cheetham, SA captain and Chris Mann, son of the late Tufty Mann , also a Springbok cricketer. Van der Bijl's father played in the pre war timeless test.Tuppy Owen Smith, former England full back, was the school doctor.
South Africa was a small world in those days.
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We also had Osler, son of Stanley Osler, a former Springbok back. He was a good fly half . I remember him, although his Christian name eludes me. He was a fair left handed batsman.
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Originally posted by Alderman Alderman wrote:

Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Just an idea.....born in the Country !

 
I think you will find that unlike the USA, our stringent current immigration rules mean that being born here does not automatically mean you are British.


I would imagine that say being born in England and living in England would qualify you to play for your Country of birth. I am not sure of any current stringent immigration laws that would prevent qualification to play .
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

We also had Osler, son of Stanley Osler, a former Springbok back. He was a good fly half . I remember him, although his Christian name eludes me. He was a fair left handed batsman.
Grey High school produced a few, Graham Pollock, Dave Callaghan, Wayne Parnell + a few more.
Sorry for moving off the rugby track to cricket..LOL.
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