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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rothman2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 13:40
Originally posted by CharlieP CharlieP wrote:

Here's a wider view of the spreadsheet that earlier capture was from - I'm sure it'll throw up some more candidates.

(Where leagues become regional it shows the northern of the two leagues, e.g. Area League North, National 4 North).

NB You will have to press CTRL and + a lot of times to read it!!



Brilliant chart that Charlie
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How about Metropolitan Police? Level 3 in the first season of Leagues, now Level 11 (Surrey 3). 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W-J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 14:21
Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

Crikey. If my memory serves me correctly Havant were the only team to beat us (32-29) in 1994/95 on our way to level 3 .

Reading gave us two close games too. What happened to them? I do recall going there when we played them in the National Knockout Cup. We were in the Prem at the time.

Reading and Roth came up from Five North/ South at the same time (93-94?) and then won promotion together from National Four at the first time of asking.  Rather like Newbury with the Vodafone money, Reading were heavily backed by an American-based bakery/ confectionery company who withdrew their funding, resulting in a fairly dramatic fall down the leagues. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RedOrDead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 14:46
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

How about Metropolitan Police? Level 3 in the first season of Leagues, now Level 11 (Surrey 3). 

Good shout, I think eight levels between peak and trough is more than any other side mentioned (assuming that you ignore teams that had to start again). The name Met Police is a real blast from the past, not that long ago really that they were in the national leagues, but in rugby terms it certainly feels like a long time. One of the dirtiest sides to visit Redruth as I remember them!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Surreyben Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2017 at 16:32
Reading will finish bottom on South West One East (Level Six) this season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:12
Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

How about Metropolitan Police? Level 3 in the first season of Leagues, now Level 11 (Surrey 3). 

Good shout, I think eight levels between peak and trough is more than any other side mentioned (assuming that you ignore teams that had to start again). The name Met Police is a real blast from the past, not that long ago really that they were in the national leagues, but in rugby terms it certainly feels like a long time. One of the dirtiest sides to visit Redruth as I remember them!

Fortunately I'm now covered by Surrey Police which allows me to agree with you that matches against Met Police when they were a National League Club were definitely among the dirtiest we ever played! And it was a local derby for us!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GWJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:40
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

How about Metropolitan Police? Level 3 in the first season of Leagues, now Level 11 (Surrey 3). 

Good shout, I think eight levels between peak and trough is more than any other side mentioned (assuming that you ignore teams that had to start again). The name Met Police is a real blast from the past, not that long ago really that they were in the national leagues, but in rugby terms it certainly feels like a long time. One of the dirtiest sides to visit Redruth as I remember them!

Fortunately I'm now covered by Surrey Police which allows me to agree with you that matches against Met Police when they were a National League Club were definitely among the dirtiest we ever played! And it was a local derby for us!!

Bit of a theme here with the Met Police!  I played against them in 1994 in a game full of niggle.  It was the only time I was warned by a ref for foul play after I retaliated to some gratuitous stamping and a full on 30 man brawl then ensued in front of the main stand at ODP!  And it was only a 2nd XV fixture!  

Anyway, back to the topic ... where are the likes of Basingstoke, High Wycombe and Morley these days?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:50
Met Police have a faint chance of promotion from Surrey 3 - but they need a 133-0 win over second place Reeds Weybridge to draw level on points and wins and overturn the points difference.

They were - and I believe still are - a closed club, and I am not sure the police are as flexible on rostering as they used to be, so players may be unavailable due to work commitments.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Met Police have a faint chance of promotion from Surrey 3 - but they need a 133-0 win over second place Reeds Weybridge to draw level on points and wins and overturn the points difference.

They were - and I believe still are - a closed club, and I am not sure the police are as flexible on rostering as they used to be, so players may be unavailable due to work commitments.

Good for them. Talking of closed clubs, I remember being told that Old Colfieans were still a closed club when they played at level 4. A fantastic achievement if it was true. I see that they are near the top of level six, still impressive if they were and remain a closed club. A slight tangent, are they the most successful closed club in the country at the moment?
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Loughborough did have a player who wasn't a student playing for them a couple of years ago. I think they choose to only select players from the university.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 20:45
The club constitution says

MEMBERSHIP 
Membership of the Club shall be open to all students of those institutions in membership of Loughborough Students’ Union (namely Loughborough University, Loughborough College and the RNIB Vocational College). At the discretion of the Club, members of staff at the above institutions and alumni may join the Club.

Associate Membership 
The Club may apply to the Athletic Union to have a maximum of FIVE associate members per academic year. These non - student individuals would be expected to be high-class performers, who could contribute to the club in the following ways: 
(a) As a short term measure for the Club to enter a new league/competition which, with the current level of student players could not be sustained. 
(b) As part of a Regional or National Academy 
(c) To enhance the Club’s activities


So semi-closed.

The same terms apply to the other sports I looked at, it is not just an exception for rugby, it seems to be a model text adopted by all clubs.

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Met Police were no where as near a dirty side as South Wales Police were
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Anyway, back to the topic ... where are the likes of Basingstoke, High Wycombe and Morley these days?

BASINGSTOKE: Finally bottomed out after successive relegations from Level 5. They have just finished in 5th place in London Three South-West (Level 8) after those three successive relegations. They have a brilliant ground and club house worthy of Level 4 rugby.

HIGH WYCOMBE: Just finished eighth in Southern Counties North (Level 7)

MORLEY: Have been up and down a few times recently between National Two North and National Three North. Have just finished tenth in National Three North

OLD COLFEIANS - RoD just mentioned them, and yesterday they earned promotion to London One South after winning 20-17 at Camberley in the promotion play-off decider.

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Havant have been at L6 in London 1 South since relegation from National 3. Last weekend they just missed out on the play off place for National 3 SE by point, losing a close match away to runaway league winners Sidcup.
They are likely to be strong contenders for promotion next season, and won this season's Hampshire Cup.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 09:55
Havant have a nice clubhouse and as well as the first team pitch with the ring of trees to keep out the wind they have a lot more pitches to allow them to run a big M&J's.

By the way for those mentioning Bracknell I see this weeks RugbyNats has a piece on them and their continuing plan to grow their own players

High Wycombe also have a large number of pitches but a small clubhouse across the stream from the pitches and restricted by geography in ability to expand (or have enough parking), they also had a fire in the cellar earlier this season that caused some damage (nice showers though)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CharlieP Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2017 at 10:04
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

Havant have a nice clubhouse


They have, or they Havant? LOL
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