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    Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 14:03
Otley have just been deducted 8 points (with 4 suspended) for playing a 16-year old in a senior game: https://www.englandrugby.com/mm/Document/Governance/Disclipine/01/33/29/54/OtleyRUFCJudgmentMar19_English.pdf

Interestingly, Doncaster Phoenix committed exactly the same offence earlier this season and yet received a 20 point deduction (with 10 suspended).

Can anyone explain why the punishments are so different for an identical offence?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 14:28
The Doncaster offence involved a Senior Competition ( Roundhegians 10's ) so presumably a  'first-team' fixture. Otley's offence related to a second XV game.
That's the only difference I can see.  Not sure the discrepancy is at all justified.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 14:56
Also from the way I read it Otley held their hands up and Phoenix were caught out.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pristine Shorts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 15:05
That has to be it....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 15:16
Was the Doncaster player injured or in the front row.
Either of those would make it a high level entry point and the starting point would be points equivalent to 5 wins.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 15:56
just read the report - looks like 

Player turns up new saying he is a colt, gets treated as a senior colt, after a couple of training sessions turns up game day with kit and a coach played him on wing, next session a different person asks age and upon finding out the truth immediately involves safegaurding etc and the club reported itself to RFU

Hence a low sanctions because to quote 

"4. The Panel did not find any mitigating factors in the offence itself, but were impressed with the “Action” that has been taken by the club to ensure there is no repetition of this breach. This is clearly set out in the Incident Report. "

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tiger Dome 2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 16:26
And Otley want nothing to do with National 1 !!!!!

I wounder if they would have come forward if they were 5 points clear of relegation ???

However they did so commendable all the same and in the spirit of the game. 

A honest mistake 
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