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Originally posted by Hopping Mad Hopping Mad wrote:

The Ilkley vs Hoppers game was called off too early in my opinion.

The weather situation changed markedly between Friday lunchtime and Saturday morning. If bus company wasn’t guaranteeing any return on Thursday/Friday then I’m sure there were others that would have based on Saturdays weather.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopping Mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 20:47
Really? Drove along A59 to West Yorkshire and back yesterday and was no issues at all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 21:27
Originally posted by Coldwarwarrior Coldwarwarrior wrote:

I don't know exactly the circumstances around the Wirral postponement but in their defence it must've been a close call as to the game going ahead or not because we simply haven't had the weather as severe as other areas of the country. As a consequence of the postponement I used the time to work in the garden (I live close by) so the ground was not  that hard but maybe not soft enough for the game to go ahead.

At risk of opening 'a can of worms' surely it isn't the home sides decision whether travel conditions to the ground dictate the game should be cancelled?
caldy game was off ,just down the rd,not that much snow probably why the frost penetrated so deep and no chance of thawing in time.
was told ,at the end of 16/17 we will not see you next season but we will the one after .think not otley
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Coldwarwarrior,
 
 It is the home sides decision to deem whether or not the ground is fit to play on. The visitors are then
 obliged to travel if it is safe to do so.
 At 8-30 am Hull were told there was a 60-40 chance of playing. They left Hull at 9-00am.
 Another pitch inspection was made two hours later and the pitch was unplayable. By that time Hull
 were well past Huddersfield on  the M62. What happened during that two hours? A sudden frost, more snow, or perhaps heavy rain? As you live near the ground perhaps you could enlighten us.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopping Mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 09:13
Interesting that Hull committed to travelling given the long distance to Wirral across areas deemed to have been unsafe on Friday where as others with shorter distances to travel did not.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yogi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 10:08
Hopping Mad,

 With about 90% of the journey by either motorway or dual-carriageway roads I am sure that
 aspect of it would have been confirmed before we left. When we go into the Wirral we always
 go by the Ellesmere Port route.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopping Mad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 10:31
Given that m62 was closed for significant part of Thursday/Friday it was still a commitment to travel.

Conditions to travel on Saturday across the Pennines were significantly improved on Saturday.

That Hull waited till Saturday to make an assessment was to their credit rather than saying earlier in the work they wouldn’t even attempt it. I see on Social Media that several Hull players had to travel from areas to get to the meeting point which was a reason some clubs have for not wanting to travel.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Crag Hopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 10:52
Was not the advice given to travel only in an emergency? A rugby game is not an emergency.As we play fewer matches at this level than in N2N,with the exception of Rossendale there surely is no catch-up problem.
Perhaps other considerations came into play. Catering for example.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Yogi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 15:40
Crag Hopper,

 That advice was given before, and at the height, of the weather emergency. By Saturday morning it was  almost irrelevant.

 I thought sides in our division all played 26 games, I was not aware that Rossendale played more.

 No catch-up problem?  Hull have had two goes at playing our away game at Klon without success. We  had two goes at playing Lymm and succeeded at the second attempt and now we have to have a second go at playing Wirral. It must be said that Klon and Lymm gave us good notice that the games were off.

Our final game of the season is at Rossendale on April 21st.  It will probably be played in mid-May and will be a cricket match!!

It is always wet in the far West!!WinkWink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Coldwarwarrior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 15:42
Originally posted by Yogi Yogi wrote:

Coldwarwarrior,
 
 ...What happened during that two hours? A sudden frost, more snow, or perhaps heavy rain? As you live near the ground perhaps you could enlighten us.
 
None of the above. I'm sure Wirral didn't intentionally wait until Hull travelled before postponing.
 
With only 2 home games since before Christmas Wirral would have been anxious to play if at all possible ... no games = severe loss of revenue for an 'out of town' club with limited other income = cashflow issues for a small club.
 
With being told there was a 40% chance of it being off Hull must've travelled knowing cancellation was high risk. I look forward to seeing you there at the rearranged fixture.
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Coldwarwarrior,
 
 I am quite sure that Wirral did not intentionally wait until Hull travelled before postponing, no question of that. The game was important to Wirral in view of the players re-union that was to be held.  But if a pitch is playable at 8-30am and there has been no adverse change in the weather conditions, as you said there had not been, why is it not playable at 10-30am?

I also look forward to seeing you at the re-arranged game.  But if you read my above posting to Crag Hopper it might not be for some time!!

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Originally posted by Crag Hopper Crag Hopper wrote:

Was not the advice given to travel only in an emergency? A rugby game is not an emergency.As we play fewer matches at this level than in N2N,with the exception of Rossendale there surely is no catch-up problem.
Perhaps other considerations came into play. Catering for example.
 
As Yogi says, there were warnings at the appropriate time but the call was made too early in respect of Ilkley travelling to Hoppers. I agree with Yogi, by Saturday morning the conditions were very different in terms of the weather warnings of the previous days.
 
Hoppers may have been able to salvage some match day preparations but most would have already been in place given the game was called off on Friday so delaying a decision until Saturday morning would have made little or no difference in that respect.
 
 
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Also didn't appear Ilkley had too much trouble getting players to training in the build up to the game...
 
"I am not sure that you can brush snow off an artificial pitch, but we are preparing ourselves for the match going ahead – we have been training indoors at Westville House School – and letting nothing distract us," revealed Morgan.

"We had a good turn-out of 25 at training on Tuesday, while four more were receiving treatment."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Welshwonder Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 18:15
A couple of seasons back Cleckheaton travelled Rossendale 3 times during the season, the first game was called off at 1320 , the second time it was called off at 1300, both for 1415 kick offs,and with team, officials and supporters already on their way to the game. The weather had been very wet and the deluge continued on the morning of the game. It eventually got played on Easter Saturday the original game being scheduled for November!
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