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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2019 at 19:41
Wow . . another statement of intent from Chinnor . . they have to be very very early favourites for promotion . . some really high quality signings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wanderer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2019 at 21:11
Man Utd acquired a number of quality players and finished 6th. There's more to success than acquiring players.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 09:01
Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Man Utd acquired a number of quality players and finished 6th. There's more to success than acquiring players.


Man Utd's issues have been well documented and, in my opinion, wanderer makes an unrelistic comparison.
What is a fact is that any success a Club has in Nat 1. on the field this season, will be directly related to and dependent on the quality of the players available to the Club.
Being realistic, I would expect that the 4 Nat 1. Clubs with the biggest rugby budgets will be the Clubs that finish in the top 4.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pappashanga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 09:02
Isn’t that depressing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wanderer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 09:57
Sid. Nothing unrealistic about it. I've been to clubs where there were quality players but not the same standard of coaching. Look what Cloughie did at Forest & Derby. He had a few good players but made two great teams.

Building a quality team is much harder than acquiring players

Coaches don't always seem to get the credit they deserve.
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Hear hear
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 10:26
Interesting comment Sid probably close to reality as 1st and 2nd last year were certainly up there
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Originally posted by Monkey Magic Monkey Magic wrote:

I have no idea if Chinnor had more or less loans than other clubs. So if Intouch has the info on all the clubs then we'd all be interested to see.......................

I think numbers are

Loan players used 56. one behind Moseley 

However when you add the 27 EAPs to that total Chinnor's use of loan/EAP players gets to 83 players over 30 game season!


Interesting that "one club" Stortford use of EAPS from Saracens were 48 times last year. Not so much of the one club!


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Originally posted by Intouch Intouch wrote:

Originally posted by Monkey Magic Monkey Magic wrote:

I have no idea if Chinnor had more or less loans than other clubs. So if Intouch has the info on all the clubs then we'd all be interested to see.......................


I think numbers are

Loan players used 56. one behind Moseley 

However when you add the 27 EAPs to that total Chinnor's use of loan/EAP players gets to 83 players over 30 game season!


Interesting that "one club" Stortford use of EAPS from Saracens were 48 times last year. Not so much of the one club!



Where do you get the Moseley loaned players figure from.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Titantom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 11:25
Intouch I assume you are saying 83 'times' over the 30 game season not 83 players? 
If I am correct then that's less than 3 a game over the season which quite frankly is nothing in N1 when you have teams playing 6-8 a game from their parent clubs! I think you've just argued against yourself! Clap

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kingsheathlad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 11:42
Yes 56 appearances made by 8 players on loan.
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Originally posted by Monkey Magic Monkey Magic wrote:

Laurence May to Chinnor



A very good signing. I am frankly amazed that Laurence hasn't ended up back at a Championship club. He has real pace and talent. A lot of folks speculated he might end up back in Penzance after the Craig Willis debacle.
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

Interesting comment Sid probably close to reality as 1st and 2nd last year were certainly up there
People in glass houses Rabbie, Ranson and Fielding to name but 2!
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Sid. Nothing unrealistic about it. I've been to clubs where there were quality players but not the same standard of coaching. Look what Cloughie did at Forest & Derby. He had a few good players but made two great teams.

Building a quality team is much harder than acquiring players

Coaches don't always seem to get the credit they deserve.


Clough's teams were full of international players.
You again use a Football comparison which I again believe is unrealistic because of the vastly differing levels of finance involved.

A quality Nat 1. team will be based on acquiring quality players and they now tend to cost the Club more than they used to. Club Coaches have a huge part to play and as you say, they deserve credit but, in my opinion, if you took any of today's International Coaches and put them in charge of a Nat 1 Club that has a lower half Nat 1 rugby budget, that is probably where the Club would finish the season.

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Almost not worth playing, just get some accountants to compare balance sheets.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rabbie Burns Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 16:33
You obviously know more than me in touch
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Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

Almost not worth playing, just get some accountants to compare balance sheets.


It's always worth playing. My Club did not get promoted to just stand and watch. The sad thing is that money and location may define the contest. Ignore that fact if you wish.
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I like to think everyone has a chance. On any given day, they do.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 23:27
Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

I like to think everyone has a chance. On any given day, they do.


How romantic.
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Louis Roach from Cov to Mose.
Willie Priestley, Cov to Cambridge.
Joe Lane, Cov to DMP.

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