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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 13:43
Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

If that's the case it puts BP in a great position. Was really impressed with park this season, a core of good players & a few additions could see them at the sharp end next term.

I don't think it will make a lot of difference to the 1st team, but the lower teams need organising better. Since Kevin O'Brien retired the lower teams have struggled. 3 to 4 years ago we ran 5 teams, now we struggle to get 3 teams out. Kevin was a wizard at getting folks playing, his phone was hot throughout the week..

Graham Higginbotham (1st team Coach) has been on the 1st coaching team for a couple of seasons. I'd be surprised if he doesn't get offers of a paid position at another club at some time in the future.

We were lucky last season with good players coming back to play for us having moved away because of jobs. One player came back from being paid at a club from a higher division.

I don't know about other Br Pk members but I'm not sure that I want to see them at the sharp end. Sharpish but not too sharp is OK. Going up a level is a HUGE jump. However, we get ahead of ourselves, surviving at level 6 would do me. Smile




Edited by Griffin - 15 May 2019 at 14:10
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RumbleintheBlundell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 17:05
Loo should have made an approach for Jason - ex club player who would have been a sharp appointment and no doubt would have turned fortunes around.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 22:51
Higginbottham , Duffy and Turner. That is some coaching set up
Some good CV's there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2019 at 23:14
No not Paul Turner. Graham Higginbotham (1st team Coach) played with Paul Turner at Sale
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What a player coach Turner was - instrumental in developing modern game
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 07:49
Interesting news from Bowden and their coaching set up.
If rumours are correct Sale Sharks Josh Straus appointed as their forwards coach, A J McGinty as attack coach and Byron McGuigan (spellings ??) as defence coach.

A great deal of potential in that set-up - three current international players
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tulip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 09:37
Originally posted by Griffin Griffin wrote:

No not Paul Turner. Graham Higginbotham (1st team Coach) played with Paul Turner at Sale


Misread that Griffin. Didn't see the comma. Stil a great coaching set up.
Bowdens sounds pretty good as well
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 10:32
Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Interesting news from Bowden and their coaching set up.
If rumours are correct Sale Sharks Josh Straus appointed as their forwards coach, A J McGinty as attack coach and Byron McGuigan (spellings ??) as defence coach.

A great deal of potential in that set-up - three current international players


Offered an opposing coach from last season £18k to go there. Madness
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 11:57
Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Originally posted by Griffin Griffin wrote:

No not Paul Turner. Graham Higginbotham (1st team Coach) played with Paul Turner at Sale


Misread that Griffin. Didn't see the comma. Still a great coaching set up.
Bowdon's sounds pretty good as well

Both Graham Higginbotham & Jason Duffy started at Broughton Park in the Minis. Not had a coach from outside the club for years. They don't get paid so it must be club loyalty?

I think Paul Turner is busy taking Ampthill & District up to the Championship from National 1.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Penda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 12:25
Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Interesting news from Bowden and their coaching set up.
If rumours are correct Sale Sharks Josh Straus appointed as their forwards coach, A J McGinty as attack coach and Byron McGuigan (spellings ??) as defence coach.

A great deal of potential in that set-up - three current international players

There is a problem however when Saturday fixtures clash with Sale Sharks games as we have found. Thursday nights inspirational coach needs also to be there on a Saturday on the touchline.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Ford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 12:36
Sale are certainly getting their players involved in community clubs and I thinks a good idea after many years of a more fractious relationship.

Cameron Neild is at Altrincham and Will Cliff at Knutsford.

Byron McGuigan & Josh Strauss have already been coaching at Bowdon this year so I'd suspect AJ McGinty joining is also true

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 13:10
it certainly makes sense in terms of long term "elite" player and identification and I note that Sale appear to be focussed on those clubs with less experience of the higher levels.

I'm assuming that these guys get paid ? But does an elite player necessarily make a good coach at N1W level? In my ( limited ) experience individuals who played at a high level can become frustrated with those less blessed in ability terms. 

Having said that the aforementioned Paul Turner is clearly doing a great job at Ampthill as is Graham Dawe down in the SW.

Finally are the likes of Bowdon recruiting new players as well? In my playing days it was very much a social club but now someone appears to have both ambition and cash.
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Maybe Sale are forward thinking and giving their players a way of earning a living after their playing career is over ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Penda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 14:57
Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Maybe Sale are forward thinking and giving their players a way of earning a living after their playing career is over ?

It's a way of getting their Level 3.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monkey Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 15:12
Maybe clubs are daft enough to pay stupid money based on who they’ve played for.

As pointed out what’s the point if they aren’t there on a Saturday.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2019 at 15:33
Lots of clubs in the SE have coaches who are premiership players and not always there on a Saturday, seems to be successful for some.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Injuredout Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 16:45
In the midst of what can seem like a lot negative news about teams struggling for players it’s good to see that Birkenhead Park is now sufficiently confident of numbers to be putting out a regular 4th team next season. All credit to them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 17:12
Fair play to them
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2019 at 21:19
Just noticed this on the Penrith website:-

"The club had been toying with the idea of volunteering to move over into North 1 East as opposed to staying in the western league as they did three seasons ago. This time the decision was to stay put, there are a number of clubs on the east coast of Yorkshire involving a lot of awkward journeys whereas most of the western clubs are within five or ten miles of a motorway, there's also the attraction of two local derbies against Kendal and Keswick that will do the club's coffers no harm."

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I have just heard that Stockport have been selected to level transfer to N1E.
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