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    Posted: 13 May 2013 at 09:47
Well done Falcons but what a poor advertisement for Championship Rugby.Yes conditions did not help and the small margins contributed but lack of spark from both teams.This grinding game is a throwback to the old Nat 1 days when pick and drive or catch and drive was the watchword.Everyone tells me how much playing standards have improved but not on this evidence.
Really surprised at Leeds approach in the last 10 minutes.They tried very little to open up the game and give themselves a chance.
If I was at Sky I would be really hacked off.Next season it will only be the Championship on a weekly basis and the "product " has to be better than this.Only hope that Bedford will show more in the final game.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 09:50
A lot at stake. The first game was a belter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 09:51
Did you see the first leg at Headingley?  Yesterday we had to play both to the conditions and to a very fired-up and aggressive Falcons pack.  Even allowing for Gopperth's misses, I think we did well to keep the margin to what it was.  Knockout rugby is often not pretty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 10:08
Plus the Bedford/ Notts games were both great spectacles for the neutral.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 10:51

Can't argue with the result or Newcastle's game plan, the stakes and pressure were very high and the way they played gave them the best chance of getting through. It wasn't pretty, but Albert's right, Leeds defended pretty heroically to keep the margin that tight. Newcastle's pack were much better.

If I was at Sky I'd be delighted that the tie went down to the wire after a cracking game at Headingley, rather than Newcastle winning the first leg by 20 and coasting home in a nothing game.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 11:06
Assuming Newcastle have been able to replace their video gear, I suspect that there will be a close examination of the Blues tactics and performance. As a neutral at Meadow Lane on Friday, I have to give them full marks for taking the fight to Nottingham straight away. One suspects that they will have to take a new tack for the Final - risky, but they have less to lose when all is said and done.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 11:21

Quote Assuming Newcastle have been able to replace their video gear

Yes, shiny new computers in the analysis room yesterday (which is the press room on match days).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 16:25
I thought it was only the threat of relegation that led to negative rugby, not the threat of success!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 16:34
You could argue that not winning a play off game is akin to relegation
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 16:54
Curious thread this. It's very much a 'damned if you do and damned if you don't' argument aimed at knocking Falcons. I rather doubt they'll be losing any sleep over the criticism. Moral victories for playing pretty rugby aren't worth much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 16:57
Well I thought it was very exciting, maybe not for a neutral but certainly for fans of the teams involved!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 17:01
I am not knocking Falcons, just the falacious argument that if you do away with relegation all teams will play free flowing champagne rugby (whatever that is).
Aspirant - you could argue it, but without success,  Staying in a division = dropping down to the one below HmmmmmErmm
 
I think what you were saying is that if a game has something riding on it, winning is what is important.  I agree, but does that mean in a ring fenced Prem it is not important to finish near the top but will just be a round of jolly friendlies played in the corinthian spirit? (I appreciate you were not the one argiung for a ring fenced Prem)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 17:02
I didn't see the game but it was pretty exciting listening on the radio! And I have to compliment the commentators; two of the least biased I've heard for a long time.
We can't all have the wide-open running rugby we might prefer all of the time. Games need winning and sometimes that takes different tactics. I'll take an ugly win over a pretty defeat, especially at this end of the season! (Not that I'm implying Falcons played 'ugly' rugby, you understand!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 May 2013 at 19:44
Just watched the highlights and agree that it was one for the purists, but don't understand the arguement. If I were the Falcons I would be delighted, especially as they probably had most to lose after romping the league. Sometimes you have to win ugly (should have seen the Jersey Donny game at the end of the season....shocking, but we won which was all that mattered...for us anyway). In an ideal world we would all love to run in 5 or 6 tries in a score fest which saw the lead change hands several times before an interception at the death and the winning score from 80 yards.....and then the alarm went off!

Falcons played a Premiership style of rugby and ground out the result...no problem with that. Leeds just couldn't get the ball and keep it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2013 at 11:41
donnylad - I wasn't trying to be taken too seriously.
 For the record ringfencing is something I would never ever want to see.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2013 at 12:51
I was at the game and was hugely impressed with the defensive effort of Leeds but I have rightly read elsewhere that the Falcons mostly played dominant rugby and wholeheartedly agree.

Yes it was not free flowing but the result was never in doubt.  Leeds might have ran the length of the pitch for a breakaway try if there was a sniff of that but other than banging it out of their half and trying to get some pitch presence they had nothing left after their massive defensive effort.

That's not to knock them because that defense was amazing and their work ethic was laudable.  

I really enjoyed that game for the chess board it was.  If Falcons had got in behind and scored at some point in the second half it might have been a very different matter but the defence held and and the longer it held the less likely it was to break.

Falcons maybe should have tried a plan B but then again plan A was good enough to take them into the last two championship games of the season and that was what mattered.

I seriously rate Leeds as one for next year and beyond if they can hang onto their pack. However their centres and the full back seemed to lack a little bit gas yesterday and maybe that was made me feel quite secure even tho the win was only 4 points.

I hope this doesnt come across as rude to Leeds but I enjoyed that game as I was tapping my flag off the floor all the way through in nervouse excitement.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2013 at 09:31
It was not much better last night but well done the Falcons.Full houses home and away provide nice income for the clubs but the product (for the TV viewer) is dire.The League needs the support of the broadcaster and the format needs refreshing.Back to a winner takes all at a neutral venue?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2013 at 09:44
Originally posted by romford romford wrote:

It was not much better last night but well done the Falcons.Full houses home and away provide nice income for the clubs but the product (for the TV viewer) is dire.The League needs the support of the broadcaster and the format needs refreshing.Back to a winner takes all at a neutral venue?

Don't agree at all, two seasons ago Pirates and Worcester produced a couple of belters. It's all down to the mindset of the coaches how they want to play the game.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2013 at 09:58
Agreed. Desperately boring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2013 at 10:16
Terrible game from a bunch of frauds
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