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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wesleysnipes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2019 at 14:43
should have gone ahead with the restructure planned years back. three nat 2. 

enough midlands clubs to make a competitive league
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2019 at 17:51
But given the distance from Cornwall to Kent, a three way split would probably involve South West, South East and Northern Leagues. Perhaps on these lines


If you want a midland league, you are probably looking at
level 2 1 16 team league
Level 3: four leagues covering National 1,2 and some Regional Premier sides.
Level 4; 16 leagues from Regional Premier / Regional 1 / Regional 2 sides.
Level 5 and below: 32 leagues at county or sub county level.


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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

But given the distance from Cornwall to Kent, a three way split would probably involve South West, South East and Northern Leagues. Perhaps on these lines


If you want a midland league, you are probably looking at
level 2 1 16 team league
Level 3: four leagues covering National 1,2 and some Regional Premier sides.
Level 4; 16 leagues from Regional Premier / Regional 1 / Regional 2 sides.
Level 5 and below: 32 leagues at county or sub county level.




I think you are correct Camquin.

It doesn't really matter how many clubs are in the Midlands, the shape of the country dictates the major distance from Redruth to Kent/Essex is the major problem.

As I have advocated earlier, their needs to be 3 level 4 leagues,

South East and South East Midlands
South West and South West Midlands
North and North Midlands.

What is happening at Level 3 with very few Northern teams is a replication of the situation in the Premiership with only 2 Northern teams (soon to be one)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 12:42
The Northern Union chose to leave and pay "for loss of earnings", that is why there are less northern sides, they went to play the 13 man game. The irony is now there's more money in Union and players are travelling in the opposite direction.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

The Northern Union chose to leave and pay "for loss of earnings", that is why there are less northern sides, they went to play the 13 man game. The irony is now there's more money in Union and players are travelling in the opposite direction.


I'm sure we are aware of the history behind the formation of Rugby League - but that was many years ago.

What concerns most of us is the gradual decline in the numbers of Northern teams in the top 3 levels
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 12:51
Yes and league and football are still the "main" draws and get what sponsorship is around, without Sir John Halls money, Gosforth would not have been re branded and Newcastle rugby would not have happened. They are however growing into a club with some history, sure they will be ok, even if they do go down this year(still everything to play for as the Tigers are far from roaring at the moment). People are still migrating to the big cities for employment, so small, less affluent areas will play second fiddle both in available cash, but also life styles. Exeter buck the trend as there's some nice surfing not too far away lol.
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Congratulations to Canterbury for the play-off win yesterday, it now seems we will be welcoming Hinckley to N2S next season
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

But given the distance from Cornwall to Kent, a three way split would probably involve South West, South East and Northern Leagues. Perhaps on these lines


If you want a midland league, you are probably looking at
level 2 1 16 team league
Level 3: four leagues covering National 1,2 and some Regional Premier sides.
Level 4; 16 leagues from Regional Premier / Regional 1 / Regional 2 sides.
Level 5 and below: 32 leagues at county or sub county level.




I think you are correct Camquin.

It doesn't really matter how many clubs are in the Midlands, the shape of the country dictates the major distance from Redruth to Kent/Essex is the major problem.

As I have advocated earlier, their needs to be 3 level 4 leagues,

South East and South East Midlands
South West and South West Midlands
North and North Midlands.

What is happening at Level 3 with very few Northern teams is a replication of the situation in the Premiership with only 2 Northern teams (soon to be one)
 
 
It does not matter how many leagues you have and how they are regionalised. Over time the London and south east based teams will rise to the top of the pyramid.
 
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Really, apart from Harlequins, who else is there at the top in London and the South East?  
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Really, apart from Harlequins, who else is there at the top in London and the South East?  


Saracens seem to be doing ok...
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Leicester Lions join Nat 2 South.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wigwam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2019 at 23:01
Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Really, apart from Harlequins, who else is there at the top in London and the South East?  


The premiership is a totally different game and did not form part of my thinking when making that statement.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

Really, apart from Harlequins, who else is there at the top in London and the South East?  

Saracens
London Irish
London Scottish
Bedford Blues
Ealing Trailfinders
Jersey (technically)

That's just the top 2 tiers
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fatbear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 hours 18 minutes ago at 10:41
Aren't Bedford technically a Midlands club rather than South East ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 hours 34 minutes ago at 14:25
As are Ampthill - Bedfordshire being part of East Midlands.

London Irish is tricky.
Reading is in the South West - though Sunbury and Brentford are in L&SE.

The division of counties into divisions was done in the age of rail. Essentiallly if you get there from Paddington it is SW - so Windsor would be in SW - if you get their from Waterloo it is L&SE - which includes Hampshire and the CI.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendly prop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 hours 6 minutes ago at 14:53
Originally posted by fatbear fatbear wrote:

Aren't Bedford technically a Midlands club rather than South East ?

Yes they are.
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Fixtures are out and Leicester Lions join Nat 2S
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