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Topic: Northern Premier Recruitment and Signings
Posted By: PenaltyTry
Subject: Northern Premier Recruitment and Signings
Date Posted: 14 May 2017 at 11:01
Haven't seen a post for this around yet so thought I would get one started!

Hoppers have announced two new signings for the 2017/18 season. First announcing Paul Millea a hooker from Macclesfield who is currently in the Cheshire County team. Should add a bit of must needed experience to the squad. Then announcing George Skofic a winger from Tarleton, also worth noting he has 7 appearances for Slovenia scoring 7 tries in the process.

They also announced that we have retained the services of Jack Granby a young second row who had a couple of first team appearances at the back end of last season and looks a good prospect. Nothing else announced in terms of retentions or players leaving.

Any other business going on around the leagues? Would be interested to see how other squads are shaping up!



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Posted By: PenaltyTry
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 08:19
Hoppers add former Scotland RL international Alex Hurst to their backline


Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 30 May 2017 at 23:39
More news of Hoppers recruitment in the signing of Darlington Mowden Park centre James Fitzpatrick as Player/Assistant Coach for next season.

https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/james-fitzpatrick-joins-hoppers/" rel="nofollow - https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/james-fitzpatrick-joins-hoppers/

Head of Rugby Operations Gareth Dyer is interviewed for an Off-Season Update.

https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/off-season-update/" rel="nofollow - https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/off-season-update/

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Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 31 May 2017 at 10:03
Seems they have been very busy in May, seeing Gareth's answers looks like retained some very good players - Lewis Allen and Pete Altham both played in Lancashire final at weekend, surely could play a level or two up from where Preston are now!

If more new lads come in will present players drop down to seconds, seconds to thirds etc if they are the Community club they say or return to clubs they have been recruited from over previous seasons?

Big pre season then moulding all the new players together as Gareth also mentions a few more may sign?


Posted By: Hopping Mad
Date Posted: 31 May 2017 at 16:38
Believe they already have some signed up but are releasing them bit by bit.


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 08:03
Hoppers snatch Fylde hooker second teamhooker OLLIE Trippier just as he was to sign for Blackburn
told he will get first team place at Hops by Gareth Dyer where does that leave Millea benching?


Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 08:24
Judging from this thread and the comments made on the PG website, it is clear that they are aiming to go the season unbeaten, as Huddersfield did. They describe themselves as ' semi-professional '.
Harrogate might have something to say about that, as might Rossendale and Hull, but I don't think anyone else in NP will come close. 


Posted By: openthegate
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 09:16
what about phil mills and the guy who ended the season playing hooker at Hoppers?


Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 09:58
Phil Mills left to go travelling I believe, a few weeks before the end of the season and Christian Taylor is signing for a Cheshire club.
PS. Don't believe everything Mightypen posts.

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Posted By: Hopping Mad
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 10:28

I see someone's support worker is on annual leave again.



Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 11:43
Hoppers confirm Trippier signs...you read it here first folks.Arnie says that with only three allowed on bench next season  in Hoppers league Tripper can  do two roles back row and  hooker.Blackburn still not happy.
Hoppers to source job for prop Altham to stay with them


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 14:18
Plus they have Up and coming hooker Connor Johnson - Says on their website he was at Blackburn 2?
Are they upsetting their Lancashire club collègues? Be interesting to here what Rossendale are doing?


Posted By: openthegate
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 16:01
Beaty I think played at the end of the year as well


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 16:28
So Hoppers have signed 3 Hookers of which none can cover Prop........ kind of limits your bench choices.

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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2017 at 23:22
They are signing anything that moves


Posted By: Stoo The Zoom
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2017 at 19:54
Jake Brady leaving Harrogate to go to DMP.


Posted By: openthegate
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 10:33
Will Dennis - Harrogate to Hull Ionians
Also former Harrogate player Callum Irvine - Hull Ionians to Yorkshire Carnegie


Posted By: tulip
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 12:07
Originally posted by Pristine Shorts Pristine Shorts wrote:


Judging from this thread and the comments made on the PG website, it is clear that they are aiming to go the season unbeaten, as Huddersfield did. They describe themselves as ' semi-professional '.
Harrogate might have something to say about that, as might Rossendale and Hull, but I don't think anyone else in NP will come close. 

Sandal only lost to Huddersfield by 7 points and 2 points and were the only team to score 4 tries against them.
Anyway we have Hoppers at home 1st game so can't wait for season to start again


Posted By: topref
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 14:09
Is Brady,s brother staying at Harrogate? They were certainly 2 of gates better players when they played Sale last season.

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Posted By: topref
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 14:13
I fancied Harrogate to come straight back up just on the strength of their front 5 but without Will Dennis at tighthead and Jake Brady in the row I think they will be very much weakened.

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Posted By: openthegate
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 14:18
Still plenty of front five at Gate - They have a great set of front row forwards

Sam Brady is still a Harrogate

All the best to Will and Jake moving up the leagues!


Posted By: SilverFox1
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2017 at 12:26
There must be more interesting news in the Northern Premier than who is / isn't leaving Waterloo. 

Lymm have recently announced that loosehead prop Gav Woods, formerly of Chester, Clady, Mac, Stockport and Burnage has joined the club. He's moved into the area with a young family and having captained Cheshire and been part of the England Counties set up Gav should bring some much needed experience to the Lymm pack.

Welcome aboard Gav.

Any other news around the league??


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Posted By: Elma Fudd
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2017 at 12:34
Great signing for lymm

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Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 13:29
mp didn't think you were reading it, due to no retort to this?

Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Originally posted by mightypen mightypen wrote:

Matt lamprey to Macclesfie

Finger on the pulse, as ever mp.

https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/hoppers-add-powerful-lamprey-squad/" rel="nofollow - https://www.pgrfc.co.uk/hoppers-add-powerful-lamprey-squad/


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Posted By: Collapsingmaul
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 16:09
Great signing for lymm,lamprey formerly of fylde?


Posted By: Maroon
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 17:49
Collapsingmaul

PiffPaff said Lamprey is going to Preston not Lymm.


Are you saying that is incorrect?


Posted By: Collapsingmaul
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2017 at 18:12
I apologise,i was addressing two different points,woods is a great signing for lymm,lamprey,is this the fylde player? Im trying to discuss other teams for a change


Posted By: JoePlatt
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 13:41
Ryan Purcell moves to Preston from Waterloo.


Posted By: billog_zam
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 13:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg

Billinghams New Rugby Pitch


Posted By: Loo fighters
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 14:12
Originally posted by JoePlatt JoePlatt wrote:

Ryan Purcell has moves to Preston from Waterloo.


Thanks & good luck to the big lad. Had his fair share of injuries in his time at Loo. Surprised if he'll make first team tbh.

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Posted By: Loo fighters
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 14:16
Originally posted by billog_zam billog_zam wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg

Billinghams New Rugby Pitch


Wow...u lucky blighters.

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Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 23:31
Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Originally posted by JoePlatt JoePlatt wrote:

Ryan Purcell has moves to Preston from Waterloo.


Thanks & good luck to the big lad. Surprised if he'll make first team tbh.

Seem to recall the same comment regarding Bramhall this time last year.

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Posted By: Loo fighters
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 05:27
Originally posted by 'Hopper 'Hopper wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Originally posted by JoePlatt JoePlatt wrote:

Ryan Purcell has moves to Preston from Waterloo.


Thanks & good luck to the big lad. Surprised if he'll make first team tbh.

Seem to recall the same comment regarding Bramhall this time last year.


Clouded recollection Hopper. Said Rob had come on leaps and bounds, was strong & abrasive & I'm not surprised he's held a place. Thinks it fair to say & without sounding harsh, Ryan hasn't ever been first choice at Loo. Hell give his all BTW 100% & good luck to him. Hope he proves me wrong.

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Posted By: Tiger Dome 2
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 07:25
Originally posted by billog_zam billog_zam wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tWug16Mrg

Billinghams New Rugby Pitch


That will be great for billinghams backs that just can't help but run the ball from everywhere !!!!!!

Could get you up the leagues in my opinion, as you can stumble in the winter, still throwing it around in the snow 😂 !!!

Good luck.


Posted By: billog_zam
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 18:13
Yeah it's gunna be great. However the worst thing is that training won't be called off lol


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 11:20
Who will be Hopper's kicker/fly half?


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 12:58
Surely it's last years player who represented Lancashire as ever though relegated Lewis Allen must be key player to push for their return up a league with is talent and goal kicking. Or asking the question hoppercrag do you know something different??

Also another question for everyone on here Preston highlighted who they signed retained, any news what's happening at Rossendale another Lancashire club always seem to have the 'cash' but very little publicity on their website, anyone on the know??

Finally any other rumours / fact please share as everyone back at pre season which players missing from your sessions or whose turned up at other clubs you see or training with not there last Year?? ...


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 17:06
Strange comment MP! But I have heard that regrettably Hoppers will not have Allen this coming season.


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 18:01
Where's he going, to another Lancashire Club? - By any chance coached by a Lancashire Coach? Or Out Off the county?


Posted By: Superhans01
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 18:14
Has anyone heard of any big signings from the new comers? Kirkby/pocklington/birkenhead?


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2017 at 13:58
As Lewis Allen gone Rossendale?


Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2017 at 16:16
CV

No disrespect to Rossendale if he did sign but he is at better standard than Regional North or even National Two North. Fylde should have persevered when they had him. He is good enough for National One IMHO.

If Dale have nicked him what a result for them.

All the best

ST

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Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2017 at 18:43
Totally Agree ST


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 09:02
Oddly enough it was Paul Arnold who did not persevere with him at Fylde.Now Arnie has let him fly the nest again.If Lewis had the mindset to play at National one. He certainly has the skills and speed.
However he left Fylde saying that Hoppers were playing in his comfort zone.Hopprers now asking for some sort of tribunal to investigate his departure.However their rugby chairs recent e mail to another player may well scupper that Pot calling kettle etc etc


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 11:24
Tribunal? Are they not amateur clubs paying few expenses???


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 12:27
At the level they are playing at any complaint will be dealt with by Lancs RFU as they fall outside the RFU/NCA re mit


Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 15:56
Unles the player owes money to the club, or visa versa, the RFU will do diddly squat! The CB (Lancs) won't even probably open the email!!

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Posted By: Maroon
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 16:20
There was a case last year when Waterloo were upset when one of their players joined Chester.

The RFU found in Waterloo's favour.


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 19:06
And what happened


Posted By: the jackal
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 09:13
is there any talk of comings and goings from other clubs? seems like Sandal have been raided again, have rossendale announced any signings/departures??


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 09:23
Just read thread above


Posted By: the jackal
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 11:58
there is about 4 clubs mentioned out of a league of 14


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 15:21
Didn't Reece Tomlinson go the same route last season i.e Hoppers to 'Dale

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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 19:30
Yes


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 21:53
Tribunal? I'd have all of you before a tribunal - like those in Paris 200+ years ago!
If Rossendale are able to pay our ex-10 £350 per game then let them do so! I for one wouldn't like to see Hoppers go down that road.


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 22:18
£350 per game WOW if that's true?? that's hell lot for 5th Division Rugby, non league footballers bet some are not even getting that a week and they will train slightly more than couple nights a week! What would preston be offering as managed to get a player from Fylde to you this summer so must be paying a reasonable amount.


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 22:28
Sorry don't know! It all seems crazy to me! But I have it on good authority.


Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2017 at 23:18
Originally posted by CalderVale CalderVale wrote:

£350 per game WOW if that's true?? that's hell lot for 5th Division Rugby, non league footballers bet some are not even getting that a week and they will train slightly more than couple nights a week! What would preston be offering as managed to get a player from Fylde to you this summer so must be paying a reasonable amount.


Yes, sounds like there is a lot of money available to players at Level 5.
We usually have some crazy summer offers made to our players to drop down to Level 5 but this years 'temptations' have been contemptible.
Multiply these silly offers up by say 25 players and this gives a Level 5 playing budget above that recommended for Level 3 by the RFU. Quite ridiculous really.
Thankfully, there are still some players with genuine ambition to play the best standard of rugby available rather than drop down levels merely for greater financial reward.

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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 00:00
Evening all

IMHO whether it's £300 or £3000 a week, if a club can justify and sustain that level of payment, then that is their business. Don't blame the player.

Most of us would not bat an eyelid if we we were asked to fork out say £25:00 for a ticket to see a comedian or a sportsman to talk and entertain us in effort to raise coffers for a club. Yet we act with complete disbelief, disdain, shock and anger when a player gets paid doing the same service week in and out for us. I just find the mindset baffeling.

Most players at this level get no where near the sums highlighted, and in most cases players get nothing at all.

What these guys do for our entertainment week in week out, putting their bodies and health on the line should force us to reflect on that commitment and the value that is to us all.

I can say with complete confidence that match fees/expenses were running in some cases, at the same levels as mentioned above, at clubs such as BP and Orrell during the early eighties. All this before leagues and professionalism, when the game was supposedly 'amateur', (sic)

I think we all have twisted and disjointed views on payments. However for me if you can afford to pay great, if not then don't, simples, but don't cry about it when another club can.

Good luck to every single player pulling their respective colours on this season. Needless to say stay injury free and enjoy every single minute of every game.

All the best

ST



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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 07:38
It is nowhere near £350 a game as being put round Hoppers clubhouse......while I am on how much did you offer Reece Tomlinson to come back to Lightfootgreen lane?


Posted By: peter1944
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 08:42
I just don't get paying any player at this level anything other than expences ,where do these clubs think
they are going to end .I will tell you BROKE remember Wakefield
 


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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 12:33
Two big experienced national one forwards join Kirby Lonsdale in joe Robinson and Gareth gore


Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 12:51
Originally posted by Sedge Tiger Sedge Tiger wrote:

Evening all

IMHO whether it's £300 or £3000 a week, if a club can justify and sustain that level of payment, then that is their business. Don't blame the player.

Most of us would not bat an eyelid if we we were asked to fork out say £25:00 for a ticket to see a comedian or a sportsman to talk and entertain us in effort to raise coffers for a club. Yet we act with complete disbelief, disdain, shock and anger when a player gets paid doing the same service week in and out for us. I just find the mindset baffeling.

Most players at this level get no where near the sums highlighted, and in most cases players get nothing at all.

What these guys do for our entertainment week in week out, putting their bodies and health on the line should force us to reflect on that commitment and the value that is to us all.

I can say with complete confidence that match fees/expenses were running in some cases, at the same levels as mentioned above, at clubs such as BP and Orrell during the early eighties. All this before leagues and professionalism, when the game was supposedly 'amateur', (sic)

I think we all have twisted and disjointed views on payments. However for me if you can afford to pay great, if not then don't, simples, but don't cry about it when another club can.

Good luck to every single player pulling their respective colours on this season. Needless to say stay injury free and enjoy every single minute of every game.

All the best
ST
 
ST,
I appreciate your opinion and 'simples' analogy'.
 
You say most of us would not bat an eyelid if we were asked to fork out say £25.00 for a ticket to see a comedian or a sportsman to talk and entertain us in effort to raise coffers for a club. I agree but think we may 'bat an eyelid' if we then found out that the money raised was being used to provide a player with match fees that were way over the odds for the level the player was being asked to play at.
You say that some act with complete disbelief, disdain, shock and anger when a player gets paid. The issue is not the fact that players get paid. The issue is how much and at what level. I would not attach any blame to the player who has bills to pay but I would criticise the Club offering exorbitant amounts to acquire his services.
You hold the view that if you can afford to pay great, if not then don't. I tend to agree with you here but do you not agree that distorting the market value of players by paying them large amounts to perform at lower levels is not good for the game?
 The RFU have set out recommendations on this very subject. Those recommendations will obviously be ignored by any Club which has problems attracting players or, by any Club that wishes to progress up the leagues.
 
You say "What these guys do for our entertainment week in week out, putting their bodies and health on the line should force us to reflect on that commitment and the value that is to us all". Stirring stuff but really, quite naïve.
 
Regards.
 
 


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Posted By: Sedge Tiger
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 13:11
SJ

I think we agree on most of the points and it does cause distortion in the market which is very frustrating. However naive or not you well never stop clubs that are over ambitious paying over the top if they can afford to get some sort of perceived edge. It will always happen. The good thing is there is reality coming back into clubs on how they manage these player recruitment and payment as opposed to the early noughties where money was chucked around without any sense of balencing the books. As we all know many clubs got their fingers burnt.

No matter what regulations the RFU put into play to ensure a balanced approach to player payment for the level a club is in is great in principle but there will be always one club that will push the limits.

All the best

ST

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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 14:09
Do you think Level Five players play to entertain ? I don't think so and judging by the ' crowds ' I saw last season around our league, nor do a lot of people.
 
It may be misty-eyed nostalgia, but pulling on a first-fifteen shirt used to be a source of great pride and reward in itself.
 
Sure, I'd love to see my club ( Ilkley RFC ) playing at the highest possible level - after all, you never want to see your side lose - but as you move up the leagues, the demands for payments increase disproportionally and it's something I will not support.
 
Incidentally, Ilkley won the National Amateur Sevens in Bath on Saturday, so it shows that even amateur clubs can provide first class rugby without paying players.


Posted By: the jackal
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 14:36
you won an amateur 7's tournament without paying players? thats amazing 


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 16:11
What clubs the Kirkby recruits leaving?


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 16:28
Robinson played at Fylde for a bit but was more recently with Kendal

Gore I think has had a few clubs (insert golfing name here) but I think also played at Kendal..and  Fylde....and Hoppers, not sure from where his boat is floating to Kirkby from.



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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 17:41
[QUOTE=Pristine Shorts]
"Incidentally, Ilkley won the National Amateur Sevens in Bath on Saturday, so it shows that even amateur clubs can provide first class rugby without paying players."/QUOTE]

P S,
Well done to Ilkley but, to be fair, you did have a little help from some guest players.

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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 19:00
Did we ? Of the squad of 12 there were 2 names I didn't recognise - Wilson and Matthews. Of the others, 9 played for us last season and one has joined us from Cleckheaton.


Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 19:31
Originally posted by Pristine Shorts Pristine Shorts wrote:

Did we ? Of the squad of 12 there were 2 names I didn't recognise - Wilson and Matthews. Of the others, 9 played for us last season and one has joined us from Cleckheaton.


Sam Wilson of Hull Ionians and I think Jonny Matthews is at Sedgley Park but, as I said, well done.

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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 19:35
Oh, right ! You learn summat every day... but thanks anyway !


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 22:13
Matthews was at sedge now playing with pro club in scotlandh


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2017 at 22:32
MP - you seem to know a lot about Lancs Rugby if Rossendale get all these expensive players !! Preston have signed a few, are playing dropping down to lower Lancashire clubs? As very few who moved to these clubs very rarely play seconds or thirds or Fylde would have about 6, 7 or 8 teams!!! and Rossendale 4 or 5!!

Have Blackburn taken any?


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 09:58
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by Pristine Shorts Pristine Shorts wrote:

Did we ? Of the squad of 12 there were 2 names I didn't recognise - Wilson and Matthews. Of the others, 9 played for us last season and one has joined us from Cleckheaton.


Sam Wilson of Hull Ionians and I think Jonny Matthews is at Sedgley Park but, as I said, well done.
 
To be honest its a bit of a farce really, a National tournament? where players can play for one side then another in the same competition, hardly a level playing field and waste of money.....


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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 10:48
PiffPaff - not sure where you have your information from, but a squad of 12 has to be named in advance of the day. Ilkley qualified for the event by being a finalist at London Irish in early July, losing to a Coventry side, so yes, a national tournament and supported and televised by England Rugby.


Posted By: Superhans01
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 13:44
Originally posted by mightypen mightypen wrote:

Two big experienced national one forwards join Kirby Lonsdale in joe Robinson and Gareth gore

Good signings... must be some £ about there too


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 15:13
Originally posted by Pristine Shorts Pristine Shorts wrote:

PiffPaff - not sure where you have your information from, but a squad of 12 has to be named in advance of the day. Ilkley qualified for the event by being a finalist at London Irish in early July, losing to a Coventry side, so yes, a national tournament and supported and televised by England Rugby.


er... so Johnny Matthews playing for another Team in the Qualifiers and then turning out for Ilkley doesn't cheapen the competition? I would assume its not against the rules but it smacks of pot hunting. So in other words, wait until the side you've played for is knocked out then join a team in the finals.

Sorry PS imho that's a farce. Others may see it another way.


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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 15:32
PP I can't say whether Matthews played in the Qualifiers or not ( I presume you mean a Saturday prior to the Finals ) All I can confirm is that he was named in the Ilkley squad well before last Saturday. Maybe he's joining us !
 
It would appear Sevens rules and regs are much less restrictive than the the normal game.
 
I think 'farce ' is a bit strong, but that was of course in YHO !


Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 15:41
Jeez, it's a pre-season run out in the sunshine, not the Presidential election!



Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 15:42
Now that IS a farce !


Posted By: Bigmal
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 16:07
Let's not go there otherwise the Waterloo thread will be eclipsed!
 
As for 7's whatever happened to those teams thrown together on Sundays early/late season?
 
Anyone remember the Glengarth Sevens at Port ? Andy Irvine, David Watkins, Phil Bennett, Glen Webb , Les Cusworth, David Bishop etc as well as the all conquering men in black from Orrell. Those were the days.


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 16:45
PS/MWJ not sure the RFU will see it as a bit of a "pre-season" fun given the substantial funding upwards of £40K plus for the competition sponsored by Secure Trading who are putting another chunk in to the England 7s Team. Mr. Matthews skippered a side in the Northern Qualifiers at WPL whilst Ilkley were off qualifying in the South East Regional Comp...eh?

It might just be me but this sounds like a gross waste of RFU funding and sponsorship for a "National Comp" and frankly no regulation whatsoever. So a player who played in a Qualifying Comp didn't qualify but guests for the eventual winners 2 weeks later. And the winners didn't play in the regional qualifiers just 7 miles away but instead they went down to Sunbury on Thames.... I'm not deriding Ilkley's win it was a RFU Competition not run on the same lines of the other RFU Comps and cost money that apparently after record profits is so hard to come by that they are making the current Women's World Champions unemployed.

Sorry if it seems I'm going on a bit but I hear and see a lot of "we can't do that any more as the budget is being cut by the RFU" only for them to throw together something that leaks money has no regulation and wastes funding. Other than that, well done South East Regional Runners Up Ilkley on winning the National 7s Title


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Posted By: Pristine Shorts
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 17:06
Well, you're clearly very well-informed PP. Can't fault you on that.
I think Ilkley were invited back as a guest side to Witney this year, having been a guest side last year ; so this is perhaps why they ended up being in the ' wrong ' division.
 
The RFU move in mysterious ways still, but I'm still happy for the ten nailed-on Ilkley players !


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 17:10
Fair enough, if you keep hold of Jack Maplesden you'll do well. Think I'm suffering from post/pre-season anxiety. 

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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2017 at 17:24
Ilkley qualified by losing to Cov at Olney, not LI. Well done though. Would have been interesting to see how Cov fared had they not withdrawn from the tournament at that point.

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Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2017 at 20:25
Any news on Rossendale yesterday meant to have a friendly with Blackburn, any new players run out? Nothing reported on any website, just wondering did they play and what new names ran out?


Posted By: Allan Foster
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 08:50
Originally posted by CalderVale CalderVale wrote:

Any news on Rossendale yesterday meant to have a friendly with Blackburn, any new players run out? Nothing reported on any website, just wondering did they play and what new names ran out?

28-21 win for 'Dale. It seems as if they were pretty rusty.



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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 12:39
Dale had ex hopper Lewis Allen playing for them


Posted By: CalderVale
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 18:38
Who's looking at being Preston 10 this season then, went well at Vale of Lune in there friendly whoever they were expect they had 2 or 3 lads having ago if Allen as left!


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 18:49
What's all this? Doesn't add up!


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2017 at 19:26
It does he's gone despite the efforts of mr dyer who has tried to shut the door after the player noltef


Posted By: Hoppercrag
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 12:34
More ungrammatical rubbish! As to Allen - let him go! There'll be others.We're not talking of Jonny Wilkinson, you know!


Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 07:46
Kendal coming into the mix late but now very wealthy some interesting names. Going up the M6 from Preston for training session things moving fast


Posted By: Loo fighters
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 09:13
Originally posted by mightypen mightypen wrote:

Kendal coming into the mix late but now very wealthy some interesting names. Going up the M6 from Preston for training session things moving fast


That would be awkward as hoppers are the first team to play at Kendal's new ground...

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Posted By: mightypen
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 10:06
Kendal have £8 million warchest


Posted By: Superhans01
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 10:23
MP, I'm pretty sure that's the sum Kendal received and have since spent on the new club and grounds. 


Posted By: the jackal
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 15:03
who have kendal signed?


Posted By: Elma Fudd
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2017 at 23:57
Originally posted by Superhans01 Superhans01 wrote:

MP, I'm pretty sure that's the sum Kendal received and have since spent on the new club and grounds. 


Hold on.... MightyPen exaggerating?! Never! I won't have it said!

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Posted By: 'Hopper
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 10:26
Some interesting returnees seen in the blue and white at Lightfoot Green last night in a feisty pre-season game against Yorkshire side Keighley.

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