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Topic: NL1: Signings, Retentions and Departures 2020-21
Posted By: stonehousealbion
Subject: NL1: Signings, Retentions and Departures 2020-21
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 16:53
New Head Coach at Plymouth Albion:

http://www.plymouthalbion.com/latest-news/damian-welch-to-be-appointed-as-albion-head-coach/" rel="nofollow - Damian Welch

There's more: https://www.ncarugby.com/national-1/the-vision-of-the-club-excites-me-plymouth-head-coach-damian-welch-chats-to-nca-rugby/" rel="nofollow - NCA Rugby

PS. Can we have 2019/20 "un-stickied", please?


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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 18:21
Video update from Adam Balding at Mose here
http://moseleysupporters.proboards.com/thread/3718/update-adam-balding?page=1&scrollTo=21854" rel="nofollow - http://moseleysupporters.proboards.com/thread/3718/update-adam-balding?page=1&scrollTo=21854

squad apparently "85%" sorted. But no details.


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Posted By: markk848
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 13:57
Cinderford have re-signed 29 of last years squad. The big loss is Dale Lemon, the Dream Team second row. Dale has signed for Hartpury to play in the Championship.  

Dale has been replaced by Joe Dancer who has signed from Chinner, but the exciting signing for the Cinders faithful is the return of Mike Wilcox, signed from Hartpury. 

Cinderford have also signed Jack Preece from Hartpury, have previously made a few loan appearances. The Club are close to announcing a few more signings, in readiness for the return of rugby sooner rather than later. 


Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 16:23
Dancer is an excellent player so with the return of Wilcox Cinderford will be a force.

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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 17:24
markk upon what is your sooner rather than later comment based? Not sure announcing squad numbers will accelerate the return to matches being played in front of a crowd.


Posted By: markk848
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 18:22
Sooner is just hopeful, wishful thinking at its finest! 




Posted By: FlyingRuck
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 12:35
News from Blackheath. Some great signings including four from OE's.

Whilst the past three months hasn’t seen any rugby being played, and we’re still not sure when the first match of the 2020/21 season will be, the hard work behind the scenes to renew contracts and fill voids left by those players who have moved or retired has continued, and we’re delighted to give you news of next season’s squad.

As you will have read over the recent weeks, we are saying goodbye to some players who are retiring (Burcham, Liebenberg) or moving (Herriott, Poole, Peters, Lamb, Rawstron-Rudd, Hamilton, Ireland, Scott, Seward) and we wish them all well. The great news is that we’re going to be welcoming back the majority of our 2019/20 squad:

  • Tom Baldwin, Tom Burns, James Catt, Mark Cooke, Jack Daly, Craig Dowsett, Leo Fielding, Nick Foster, Harry Fry, Freddie Gabbitass, Kariym Irving, Jake Lloyd, Nathan Morris, Freddie Owen, Neale Patrick, Mike Perks, Alex Pickersgill, Ben Ransom, Elliot Simmons, Henry Staff, Tom Stradwick, Jamie Ure, Tom Williams

We are also welcoming some new faces to the Blackheath Squad this season, strengthening the 1st XV – all are outstanding signings, who bring considerable rugby experience and playing quality, as well as a genuine desire to see Club improving on last season’s final league position. 

With such key retirements at Centre (Markus Burcham) and scrum half (Stef Liebenberg), and the departure of Danny Herriot and josh Peters at key positions, we felt these were crucial areas to focus on, and to bring in players with proven track records. 

Stefan North: Tight Head Prop

  • Arrives back at Club from a spell at OEs. ‘Stef’ is well known at Blackheath, having previously played over 30 games in the red and black. It’s fair to say that he relishes the dark arts at scrum time, and will be a great addition to the squad

Dom McGeekie: 2nd Row/Back Row

  • Again, arrives from OEs. Dom is a graduate of Cardiff Met University and previously played for Championship side London Scottish. An extremely versatile back five player, who is adept at playing in the ‘row’ or out in the wide channels as an attacking back rower

Ollie Claxton: Scrum Half 

  • Another to join Club from OEs, Ollie arrives off the back of a great season and has been a stand out player for OEs during his 100 plus games. Whilst studying at Exeter University he also represented England Students. He’s known as a player with a great turn of pace, and one that can make something out of nothing

Alex Brown: Back Three

  • The fourth player to come to us from OEs, Alex is a former Exeter University student where he gained England Students honours. Alex will give us a great number of options as he can cover all positions in the back line (he may argue) apart from 9 and 10

Matt Meeks: Loose Head Prop 

  • Matt has played over 100 National League games for Cambridge. A former back-rower who made the switch to the front row, he remains a mobile, aggressive player

Chris Bell: Scrum Half

  • Chris joins us from Cambridge University, where he won three Blues and picked up two ‘man of the (Varsity) match’ performances. ‘Belly’ can also play at fly-half and knows Shanners very well

Lewis Robling: Centre

  • Lewis comes to Blackheath from Bedford Blues via Jersey Reds and Ealing, having made over 100 Championship appearances. Another signing that gives us more flexibility, as he can also play 10 and hence gives us another option as a recognised goal kicker

Luke Peters: Centre

  • Luke arrives from Nottingham, Ealing and Rotherham, having played a number of seasons in the Championship. A physical, hard running centre, who will add depth to an area of great strength at Club, recently vacated by last season’s Captain
Full link to web site here  http://www.blackheathrugby.co.uk/squad-news-for-2020-21/" rel="nofollow - http://www.blackheathrugby.co.uk/squad-news-for-2020-21/


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 16:28
Originally posted by FlyingRuck FlyingRuck wrote:

News from Blackheath. Some great signings including four from OE's.

<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Whilst the past three months hasn’t seen any rugby being played, and we’re still not sure when the first match of the 2020/21 season will be, the hard work behind the scenes to renew contracts and fill voids left by those players who have moved or retired has continued, and we’re delighted to give you news of next season’s squad.

<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">As you will have read over the recent weeks, we are saying goodbye to some players who are retiring (Burcham, Liebenberg) or moving (Herriott, Poole, Peters, Lamb, Rawstron-Rudd, Hamilton, Ireland, Scott, Seward) and we wish them all well. The great news is that we’re going to be welcoming back the majority of our 2019/20 squad:

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Tom Baldwin, Tom Burns, James Catt, Mark Cooke, Jack Daly, Craig Dowsett, Leo Fielding, Nick Foster, Harry Fry, Freddie Gabbitass, Kariym Irving, Jake Lloyd, Nathan Morris, Freddie Owen, Neale Patrick, Mike Perks, Alex Pickersgill, Ben Ransom, Elliot Simmons, Henry Staff, Tom Stradwick, Jamie Ure, Tom Williams<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">We are also welcoming some new faces to the Blackheath Squad this season, strengthening the 1<span style="-sizing: border-; : relative; font-size: 9.75px; line-height: 0; vertical-align: line; top: -0.5em;">st</span> XV – all are outstanding signings, who bring considerable rugby experience and playing quality, as well as a genuine desire to see Club improving on last season’s final league position. 

<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">With such key retirements at Centre (Markus Burcham) and scrum half (Stef Liebenberg), and the departure of Danny Herriot and josh Peters at key positions, we felt these were crucial areas to focus on, and to bring in players with proven track records. 

<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Stefan North: Tight Head Prop</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Arrives back at Club from a spell at OEs. ‘Stef’ is well known at Blackheath, having previously played over 30 games in the red and black. It’s fair to say that he relishes the dark arts at scrum time, and will be a great addition to the squad<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Dom McGeekie: 2nd Row/Back Row</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Again, arrives from OEs. Dom is a graduate of Cardiff Met University and previously played for Championship side London Scottish. An extremely versatile back five player, who is adept at playing in the ‘row’ or out in the wide channels as an attacking back rower<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Ollie Claxton: Scrum Half </span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Another to join Club from OEs, Ollie arrives off the back of a great season and has been a stand out player for OEs during his 100 plus games. Whilst studying at Exeter University he also represented England Students. He’s known as a player with a great turn of pace, and one that can make something out of nothing<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Alex Brown: Back Three</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">The fourth player to come to us from OEs, Alex is a former Exeter University student where he gained England Students honours. Alex will give us a great number of options as he can cover all positions in the back line (he may argue) apart from 9 and 10<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Matt Meeks: Loose Head Prop </span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Matt has played over 100 National League games for Cambridge. A former back-rower who made the switch to the front row, he remains a mobile, aggressive player<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Chris Bell: Scrum Half</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Chris joins us from Cambridge University, where he won three Blues and picked up two ‘man of the (Varsity) match’ performances. ‘Belly’ can also play at fly-half and knows Shanners very well<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Lewis Robling: Centre</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Lewis comes to Blackheath from Bedford Blues via Jersey Reds and Ealing, having made over 100 Championship appearances. Another signing that gives us more flexibility, as he can also play 10 and hence gives us another option as a recognised goal kicker<p style="-sizing: border-; margin: 0px 0px 18px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="-sizing: border-; font-weight: 700;">Luke Peters: Centre</span>

<ul style="-sizing: border-; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb69, 69, 69; font-family: Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li style="-sizing: border-; line-height: inherit;">Luke arrives from Nottingham, Ealing and Rotherham, having played a number of seasons in the Championship. A physical, hard running centre, who will add depth to an area of great strength at Club, recently vacated by last season’s Captain
[COLOR=#454545" face="Lato, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<span style="font-size: 13px;]Full link to web site here </span>[/COLOR] http://www.blackheathrugby.co.uk/squad-news-for-2020-21/" rel="nofollow - http://www.blackheathrugby.co.uk/squad-news-for-2020-21/


On the face of it a good set of acquisitions - a lot of them with championship experience.

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Posted By: Alderman
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 17:46
Some great signings by Blackheath. They should be a real force if we ever get any rugby back again.


Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 08:13
Noticed the DMP re-signings to date have not been posted on here and are as follows - 

Club Captain - Joe Craggs - Lock / Back Row
1st XV - Captain Olly Hodgson - No. 8
Ben Frankland - Centre
Ben Dixon - Centre
Dave Fisher - Lock Back Row
Brandon Asher-Wood - Wing / Full Back
Warren Seals - Fly Half



Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 10:04
Birmingham Moseley announce signings of props David Langley and Jide Ajayi.
Re-signing of Danny Wright, second row. 


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 10:58
David is a good lad who was a great propect, went off to Wasps, got injured and then lost his mojo for a bit.

He ended up back at Cambridge for a a second spell where he was a never quite his former self - possibly due to losing motivation, possibly he was carryig an injury (which he would not have let on except to the medics).

But if he is fit - he is devastating.
He is tall and fast and has good hands as well as being a good scrummager - so effectively gives you an extra back row.


Will look him out when we meet, if we ever have rugby again.


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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 11:17
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

Birmingham Moseley announce signings of props David Langley and Jide Ajayi.
Re-signing of Danny Wright, second row. 

"Danny is renowned for his determined and spirited play ..." and his tendency to need the occasional ten-minute break to get his breath back. Wink


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 12:26
Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

Birmingham Moseley announce signings of props David Langley and Jide Ajayi.
Re-signing of Danny Wright, second row. 

"Danny is renowned for his determined and spirited play ..." and his tendency to need the occasional ten-minute break to get his breath back. Wink
Always liked Danny Wright. Sad day when he left.
We never got to see Langley though (unless I blinked). Hope he gets more pitch time at Mose (and suspect he will).


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 12:39
Kimbo I am sure you saw him in Blood and Sand against you in 16/17 as he played all 160 minutes in our losses to you that season.

According to Statbunker he only got 21 minutes in Blue away at Ealing.

Cinderford fans may feel they saw too much of him. He played his last match for us against then and then the next week turned out for Moseley against Cinderford. The Forresters lost both matches.


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Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 12:40
Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

Birmingham Moseley announce signings of props David Langley and Jide Ajayi.
Re-signing of Danny Wright, second row. 

"Danny is renowned for his determined and spirited play ..." and his tendency to need the occasional ten-minute break to get his breath back. Wink

 
OCCASIONAL?.......Big smile


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2020 at 14:26
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Kimbo I am sure you saw him in Blood and Sand against you in 16/17 as he played all 160 minutes in our losses to you that season.

According to Statbunker he only got 21 minutes in Blue away at Ealing.

Cinderford fans may feel they saw too much of him. He played his last match for us against then and then the next week turned out for Moseley against Cinderford. The Forresters lost both matches.
Then you're correct CQ. I did. Not in Blue & White though!


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 09:32
http://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/ben-adams-heads-home-for-full-time-return-to-cambridge-rugby-club-9113834/" rel="nofollow - Ben Adams 'returns' to Cambridge having been on loan from Coventry.


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Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 10:14
david langley and danny wright! bill and ben the flower pot men, either a walking penalty combo or every ref they are officiated by have tourettes temper temper 

sam holingswroth to plymouth albion


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 12:36
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

http://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/ben-adams-heads-home-for-full-time-return-to-cambridge-rugby-club-9113834/" rel="nofollow - Ben Adams 'returns' to Cambridge having been on loan from Coventry.
I assume he did ok for you last season?
Didn't get much of a look in at Cov with Nutley, Peters, Ram, Wallace, Nayalo, Dacres, Burrows etc around in the back row, but looked quite useful when he did play.


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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 11:38
Mose re-sign Michael Stephens, Zac Xiourouppa (now back to full fitness) and Morgan Dawes.

Elliott Creed in from London Scottish.


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Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 11:50
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Mose re-sign Michael Stephens, Zac Xiourouppa (now back to full fitness) and Morgan Dawes.

Elliott Creed in from London Scottish.

Good signings and re-signings
 



Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 12:51
Mose re-sign Mason Tonks, Sam Pointon and Harry O'Brien, and sign Luke Hibberd from Scottish.

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 11:42
Cambridge sign Jonty Rawcliffe and Marc Koteczky

http://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/jonty-rawcliffe-and-marc-koteczky-make-moves-to-cambridge-rugby-club-9114543/" rel="nofollow - https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/jonty-rawcliffe-and-marc-koteczky-make-moves-to-cambridge-rugby-club-9114543/


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Posted By: Steeltheone
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 13:45
No sign of the big spenders this year Confused SUSTAINABILITY 


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 12:18
Just so it's on the right thread (sorry Wobbler) - Mose sign Ashley Johnson from Wasps as player/coach

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Posted By: FlyingRuck
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 12:46
Blackheath sign Ed Taylor from Bedford Blues

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Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:12
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Just so it's on the right thread (sorry Wobbler) - Mose sign Ashley Johnson from Wasps as player/coach

That seems to be one of the (if not the) biggest signings so far. 


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:23
Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Just so it's on the right thread (sorry Wobbler) - Mose sign Ashley Johnson from Wasps as player/coach

That seems to be one of the (if not the) biggest signings so far. 

certainly surprised me 


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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:34
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Just so it's on the right thread (sorry Wobbler) - Mose sign Ashley Johnson from Wasps as player/coach
That seems to be one of the (if not the) biggest signings so far. 
certainly surprised me 
Well, clearly he's looking to transition from playing to coaching, and being in his mid-30's won't be the force that he was when he earned his international caps for SA, but at level 3 he still ought to be able to show the young lads a thing or two.


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Posted By: geralltrugby
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 10:54
That’s a stunning signing for Moseley! 👊


Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2020 at 11:20
A Massive signing in all ways!!!!

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Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2020 at 01:45
Just wondering if there is any substance to the rumour DMP have signed Tom Catterick (ex DMP youth) and Falcons. Been at Durham Uni? Maybe just a rumour but ir was an ex DMP player who told me??




Posted By: Dave G/w
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 10:38
Haven’t seen anywhere about Sam Hollingsworth going to Albion?


Posted By: Dave G/w
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 10:43
TigerTitan , haven’t seen anywhere about Sam going to Albion?


Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 12:28
he is likely to be 3rd choice / redruth loan doubt they will announce it offishly but i have good seasources 


Posted By: Dave G/w
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2020 at 12:54
Thanks for getting back 👍


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 10:09
Mose re-sign Matt Dight, Ben Palmer and Jack Jolly; Jack Combes signed from Hartpury

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Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2020 at 10:10
i have heard stephen myler is on his way to a club in the midlands...


Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2020 at 20:14
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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2020 at 12:07
Mose re-sign Joe Foreman, Ethan Priest, James Tideswell, Will Biggs and Nathaniel Titchard-Jones

Ryan Roach in (back) from Ealing


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keep the faith


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2020 at 10:19
Mose re-sign Ravia Fatiaki and Aquile Smith and sign (returning) Ollie Allsopp from Scottish

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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 13:56
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

i have heard stephen myler is on his way to a club in the midlands...
As reliable as ever... Ermm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53446384" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53446384


Posted By: stonehousealbion
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 22:41
Sam Morley (Exeter Chiefs/PARFC) to Esher. Plus multiple OEs?

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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 10:25
Originally posted by stonehousealbion stonehousealbion wrote:

Sam Morley (Exeter Chiefs/PARFC) to Esher. Plus multiple OEs?

Quinton, McGann and Hobman to Esher from OEs. Flashman to Rosslyn Park, McGeekie to Blackheath. Those are the OEs departures I’ve heard of.


Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 11:11
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by stonehousealbion stonehousealbion wrote:

Sam Morley (Exeter Chiefs/PARFC) to Esher. Plus multiple OEs?

Quinton, McGann and Hobman to Esher from OEs. Flashman to Rosslyn Park, McGeekie to Blackheath. Those are the OEs departures I’ve heard of.
Will the last person to leave OEs please turn out the lights?


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Posted By: FlyingRuck
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 11:23
You can also add the following to the list of OE exits to Blackheath:

Ollie Claxton - scrum half
Alex Brown - Back three
Stefan North - Tight head


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 13:36
Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by stonehousealbion stonehousealbion wrote:

Sam Morley (Exeter Chiefs/PARFC) to Esher. Plus multiple OEs?


Quinton, McGann and Hobman to Esher from OEs. Flashman to Rosslyn Park, McGeekie to Blackheath. Those are the OEs departures I’ve heard of.

Will the last person to leave OEs please turn out the lights?


Careful, you will get the usual response from their DOR, along the lines of crisis what crisis

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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 14:44
Technically Stef North I think was registered with Canterbury for the later part of the season.

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So many Christians not enough Lions


Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 17:56
blood and sand lose star full back rhodrick adamson who signs with esher on big cash money. my nephew has told me that he will 5% of any bar takings from london scottish vs saracens home friday night game. strange




Posted By: Elthamwanderer
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 18:44
Further players to leave OE’s:

James golledge, Austin hay and Michael Kovacic to Rosslyn park
Alex goble, Harry ledger and Hamish Barton to Richmond 
Tom Concu also to another London club

Will be no lights left to turn off when the last one leaves 


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 21:53
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

blood and sand lose star full back rhodrick adamson who signs with esher on big cash money. my nephew has told me that he will 5% of any bar takings from london scottish vs saracens home friday night game. strange



Nice to read more fake news from the Donald Trump of Rolling Maul! As the London Scottish groundshare doesn’t start until September 2021 the lucrative game against Saracens will, if played, be at the Richmond Athletic Ground.

Good signing for us, if confirmed, but it won’t be big cash, we don’t do that!


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 23:28
Nice lad and I seem to recall family are South of you.
A loss, but not sure how many starts he would have got at Cambridge next season. 


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Posted By: touchlineexpert
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 07:41
Surely Juddians have picked up a few OEs as well?


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 08:49
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Nice lad and I seem to recall family are South of you.
A loss, but not sure how many starts he would have got at Cambridge next season. 
Winchester (from an article published when he was at Cov).


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 13:20
Originally posted by touchlineexpert touchlineexpert wrote:

Surely Juddians have picked up a few OEs as well?


They certainly had several at the end of last season.

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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2020 at 19:17
Birmingham Moseley have a season long loan arrangement with Hartpury University RFC for the following :
James Forester, centre/fb.
Rob Fuller, second row. 


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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 14:09
Mose senior academy contracts (train with the first team and play for them if making the grade) renewed for Jamal Gask-Clarke, Adam Collingwood, Guy Toye, Jamie Constantine, Harry Barnes and Harry Dawson.

Jack English in from Wasps Academy


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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 16:20
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Jack English in from Wasps Academy

Ashley Johnson having an impact already, I see!


Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 16:38
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

blood and sand lose star full back rhodrick adamson who signs with esher on big cash money. my nephew has told me that he will 5% of any bar takings from london scottish vs saracens home friday night game. strange



One day you will realise that your nephew is taking the pi$$ out of you.


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 16:47
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Jack English in from Wasps Academy

Ashley Johnson having an impact already, I see!

In all seriousness, I would hope so!


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Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 11:37
A few departures from Moseley - Buster Lawrence, who I think is heading for Clifton; Jonny Arr, Aaron Crofts and Tony Worthington are retiring; Cliffie Hodgson is going to Rugby Lions as player/coach; Louis Roach is off to play sevens; and John Davetanivalu is moving to a Championship club (not sure which one). The club wishes them all the best for the future.


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 13:53
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Jack English in from Wasps Academy

Ashley Johnson having an impact already, I see!

In all seriousness, I would hope so!
Probably more to do with Pete Glackin TBF as he's head of Rugby at Henley Coventry College.


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Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 13:58
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Jack English in from Wasps Academy

Ashley Johnson having an impact already, I see!

In all seriousness, I would hope so!
Probably more to do with Pete Glackin TBF as he's head of Rugby at Henley Coventry College.

True, but having AJ on board isn't going to do any harm


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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 16:56
Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by billesleyexile billesleyexile wrote:

Jack English in from Wasps Academy

Ashley Johnson having an impact already, I see!

In all seriousness, I would hope so!
Probably more to do with Pete Glackin TBF as he's head of Rugby at Henley Coventry College.

True, but having AJ on board isn't going to do any harm
No it isn't, and if it means the potential reinstatement of a meaningful local derby, I'm all for it.


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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 18:02
Anthony Maka from https://www.crufc.co.uk/news/welcome-anthony-maka" rel="nofollow - Roth to Cambridge

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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2020 at 18:52
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

david langley and danny wright! bill and ben the flower pot men, either a walking penalty combo or every ref they are officiated by have tourettes temper temper 

sam holingswroth to plymouth albion

Another one wrong by TT. Sam Hollingsworth signed by Nottingham. 


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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 17:50
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

david langley and danny wright! bill and ben the flower pot men, either a walking penalty combo or every ref they are officiated by have tourettes temper temper 

sam holingswroth to plymouth albion

Another one wrong by TT. Sam Hollingsworth signed by Nottingham. 

To be fair he got the Sam Yawayawa to London Scottish move right.

Even if it was after London Scottish had announced it!


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 18:21
Yes but a blind man will hit double top occassionally
I belive TT has played on the same team as Sam Y.
I was going to use a different simpler phrasing but I was cabable of misinterpretation.
Maybe i should have left it.


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Posted By: elmsall man
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2020 at 22:18
As a Doncaster fan I am becoming very concerned about Rotherham and their future .They are losing players and things are looking bleak.
I sincerely hope that they can pull things round and I know that many of us at Doncaster feel the same way.
Good Luck Rotherham


Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 10:28
oli steadman moseley 


Posted By: CJB1
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 11:54
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

oli steadman moseley 


What, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oli_Steadman" rel="nofollow - this guy ?  Thanks, but I think we're already sorted for post-match entertainment.


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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 12:38
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

oli steadman moseley 


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Posted By: Keppeltitan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2020 at 20:41
Elmsall man thanks for you concern but we are assured that every thing is going to plan and players have been signed but only a back row and a hooker have been named.


Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 14:08
i went to watch rotherhaim training a fwe weeks ago and it was very old school 

no skills training at all i didnt see any balls involved it was just fitness runining back and forth. no competitive games or handling drills.

how can you expect playersto be creaytive if they are not allowed to exspress themselves?

no wonder sam hollingsworth has gone to plymouth albion 


Posted By: Cannon
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 14:27
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

i went to watch rotherhaim training a fwe weeks ago and it was very old school 

no skills training at all i didnt see any balls involved it was just fitness runining back and forth. no competitive games or handling drills.

how can you expect playersto be creaytive if they are not allowed to exspress themselves?

no wonder sam hollingsworth has gone to plymouth albion 
5 weeks ago that’s all the training they were allowed to do, it is only this week any resemblance of competitive drills are allowed now we are at Stage C

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 14:44
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

i went to watch rotherhaim training a fwe weeks ago and it was very old school 

no skills training at all i didnt see any balls involved it was just fitness runining back and forth. no competitive games or handling drills.

how can you expect playersto be creaytive if they are not allowed to exspress themselves?

no wonder sam hollingsworth has gone to plymouth albion 


Except he hasn't!

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Posted By: LJ from Roth
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2020 at 15:00
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

i went to watch rotherhaim training a fwe weeks ago and it was very old school 

no skills training at all i didnt see any balls involved it was just fitness runining back and forth. no competitive games or handling drills.

how can you expect playersto be creaytive if they are not allowed to exspress themselves?

no wonder sam hollingsworth has gone to plymouth albion 

Since we haven’t yet started training, I wonder who he was watching! The Phoenix lads might have started but since most of our new-look squad are still at home, all across the country, he might have spotted Gus doing some running. Check out the video on our website each week and meet the players. There will be some surprises to come - and they’re class! 




Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 15:00
Daryl Veenendaal joins Cambridge.

http://www.crufc.co.uk/news/welcome-darryl-veenendaal" rel="nofollow - http://www.crufc.co.uk/news/welcome-darryl-veenendaal

His brother Delaray played for us from 2011 until 2015.
Statbunker has some of those incorrectly listed as outings for Darryl.


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Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 09:09
wear are cambridge getting all their money for these big signings? they had a go fund me page about 3 months ago stating they were about to go under due to covid!!! 

i hope that fund wasnt actually used to recruit new players 


Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 09:24
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

wear are cambridge getting all their money for these big signings? they had a go fund me page about 3 months ago stating they were about to go under due to covid!!! 

i hope that fund wasnt actually used to recruit new players 

I reckon most clubs need help in these difficult times. Early renewal of memberships, donations, player sponsorships etc. Not all clubs will disclose their financial position. 


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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 14:00
I am not on the committee and have no knowledge of individual player contracts.
But I believe the signings are on match fee contracts - no matches no fees.
I understand there was a cash flow problem releated to a late payment of grant funding, but this has been resolved.
However,  with no games and little use of facilities I suspect all clubs are short of funds.
But cambridge at least use the club house for the 16-18 Academy so will get paid for educating those boys. (I would love us to have a girls academy team but that will be a while would need a large enough group to want to start).



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Posted By: Rabbie Burns
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 20:19
I think there is a lot of changes to contracts this year at most clubs, the ones that offer jobs alongside must be struggling as well with most business still in furlough or working from home

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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 07:37
Rabbie 

It's very interesting!

Four months ago Cambridge had a massive funding issue. I quote their chairman With the sudden collapse in our income we now find ourselves in need of financial support. Having scrutinized our finances for the next 3 months, the Committee assess that we need £40,000 to see us through this crisis." That was in April.They have raised £14k according to the page or 35% of what was needed!
They now have probably signed more players than any other club and that must be at a cost, no matter what way you look at it!  You have several players that have publicly said they have moved to the area just to play for Cambridge, the young back rower from Rotherham with his family for one!

Moseley had the same problem, no money, no income, set up a go fund me page to raise funds, think they pulled in about £18k and then sign Ashley Johnson and several others, at what cost!

Then we have Chinnor, who had a Chairman that wanted a cut in the salary cap to £150k, plastered it all over TRP as well as this site. Didn't get their way so along comes Tonga'uiha and Armitage!

Very strange to say the least! 

I don't think we start till Jan at best, if at all, let's see who is still standing then! Because on the face of it, there seems to be some big money being thrown about for people to play touch rugby twice a week!


Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 07:42
[QUOTE=Scrumtime]
Rabbie 

It's very interesting!

Four months ago Cambridge had a massive funding issue. I quote their chairman With the sudden collapse in our income we now find ourselves in need of financial support. Having scrutinized our finances for the next 3 months, the Committee assess that we need £40,000 to see us through this crisis." That was in April.They have raised £14k according to the page or 35% of what was needed!
They now have probably signed more players than any other club and that must be at a cost, no matter what way you look at it!  You have several players that have publicly said they have moved to the area just to play for Cambridge, the young back rower from Rotherham with his family for one!

Moseley had the same problem, no money, no income, set up a go fund me page to raise funds, think they pulled in about £18k and then sign Ashley Johnson and several others, at what cost!

Then we have Chinnor, who had a Chairman that wanted a cut in the salary cap to £150k, plastered it all over TRP as well as this site. Didn't get their way so along comes Tonga'uiha and Armitage!

Very strange to say the least! 

I don't think we start till Jan at best, if at all, let's see who is still standing then! Because on the face of it, there seems to be some big money being thrown about for people to play touch rugby twice a week!
How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game


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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 08:06
Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Rabbie 
It's very interesting!
Four months ago Cambridge had a massive funding issue. I quote their chairman With the sudden collapse in our income we now find ourselves in need of financial support. Having scrutinized our finances for the next 3 months, the Committee assess that we need £40,000 to see us through this crisis." That was in April.They have raised £14k according to the page or 35% of what was needed!
They now have probably signed more players than any other club and that must be at a cost, no matter what way you look at it!  You have several players that have publicly said they have moved to the area just to play for Cambridge, the young back rower from Rotherham with his family for one!
Moseley had the same problem, no money, no income, set up a go fund me page to raise funds, think they pulled in about £18k and then sign Ashley Johnson and several others, at what cost!
Then we have Chinnor, who had a Chairman that wanted a cut in the salary cap to £150k, plastered it all over TRP as well as this site. Didn't get their way so along comes Tonga'uiha and Armitage!
Very strange to say the least! 
I don't think we start till Jan at best, if at all, let's see who is still standing then! Because on the face of it, there seems to be some big money being thrown about for people to play touch rugby twice a week!
 
Talking below level 2, there are many variables to consider when a player has moved clubs but I agree that the majority move for financial reasons. 
Any Club paying retainers during this period of extraodinary circumstances are really desperate and not acting in the interests of their Club members. They should be having a good look at themselves and be asking why, asa Rugby Club, they cannot hang on to players without their being a financial incentive.
I accept that with some players, there may be a signing-on fee rather than a retainer but with those players there would have been whenever they signed. If the Club can afford to do that during these times, good luck to them but again, are you best serving your Club by doing this at a time of uncertainty reagrding rugby?
I suspect that most players who have moved Clubs during this close-down have agreed contracts that are based on appearance money. The agreed appearance money (whenever that starts!) will probably be more than they were to receive at their previous club or, the player may have simply moved to better his level of rugby.
Therefore, I suspect that the majority of signings and movements by players should be costing the recipient Club nothing until we start playing rugby.
Some Clubs may be hoping for a change in fortune prior to Jan 2021. Good luck with that.
 


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Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 08:11
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

[QUOTE=Scrumtime]
 
How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game
 
Kingsheathlad,
 
I sincerely hope that no Club is paying players on a 'paid per game' basis without those players having signed a contract. Such a Club would be in deep s--t if found out.


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Posted By: French Connection
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 09:15
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

[QUOTE=Scrumtime]
 
How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game
 
Kingsheathlad,
 
I sincerely hope that no Club is paying players on a 'paid per game' basis without those players having signed a contract. Such a Club would be in deep s--t if found out.

You absolutely 100% have to sign a contract and it has to be registered with the RFU to receive ANY financial remuneration at all. It doesn't matter whether a player is on a monthly salary or is on a much more sensible pay to play deal. Contracts are obligatory and if players are receiving money or any other financial benefit without one, the club are in a very serious breach of RFU regulations, never mind HMRC.


Posted By: billesleyexile
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 09:33
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game

Quite apart from anything else, the GoFundMe page (and additional donations direct to the club) was/is quite literally a squadbuilder fund, not a keep the lights on fund. It was/is communicated entirely in terms of building the team, not keeping the lights on. So, "club raises money to spend on players then signs players" might not necessarily be the story some seem to think it is. It was *never* a "save Moseley" fund, and was always a "help us sign more players" fund. As a contributor, I'm glad to have helped.




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Posted By: TigerTitan
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 11:38
according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 



Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 13:31
I have no knowledge of how Moseley signings work. My response above was to 'scrumtime' s' assumption on the clubs position. 

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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 14:23
In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.


Posted By: Moseley Mauler
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 15:07
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.

Exactly



Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 19:45
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.

It depends on the paid per game, 

is it paid per appearance in said game or paid for the game the club has participated in or paid for the game the club should of participated in... 

it is open to interpretation, this is where the issue lies with no formal contract to outline the players and clubs obligations


Posted By: French Connection
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 10:14
Just to emphasise the point - you HAVE to sign and register a contract with the RFU if ANY form or system of payment or remuneration is to be given. HMRC have to be informed also. That includes travelling expenses, match fees, signing bonuses etc - absolutely everything. Handing out £20 notes after training would be very dodgy. It actually protects both the player and the club to have everything written down and agreed upon. The vast majority of National League clubs now conform to this standard, but there are a few that still do it the wrong way. Eventually they will come unstuck - as several already have.



Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 13:38
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 


Is this the nephew who feeds you so much of the incorrect information you post on here?

Or do you have more than one nephew wishing his mum and dad were from one-parent families?


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 14:03
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 



Is this the nephew who feeds you so much of the incorrect information you post on here?

Or do you have more than one nephew wishing his mum and dad were from one-parent families?




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Posted By: front5
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2020 at 23:23
According to Ruck.co.uk Ashley Johnson to rejoin wasps on a short term deal


Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 07:54
They spent the "Go Fund The Team" money already?

Hope they get a decent loan fee for him! 


Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2020 at 13:06
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 


 
Are you sure you want to keep this post in the public domain?


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