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Topic: RFU Return to rugby
Posted By: Redted
Subject: RFU Return to rugby
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 11:35
https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/return-to-competitive-playing-for-202021-season" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/return-to-competitive-playing-for-202021-season

Link to the various proposal above.

Is it just me or is the plan to geographically split all leagues EXCEPT the NCA leagues not madness?
The NCA leagues in this current climate are the first ones that should be split on a geographical basis not the ones omitted.  Plymouth travelling to the far north of England, Redruth and Barnstaple travelling to Southend and Bury St.Edmunds don't sound like a great plan to me.



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Posted By: kingsheathlad
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 12:54
Coach travel could be different now for players, back room and supporters with self distancing. 

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Posted By: JohnT
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 08:07
doesn't look like much of a plan to me, just a list of theoretical options if contact playing can start. No information on timescales for windows, or did I miss something.  Travel options are going to be a serious problem especially with the distances involved in National Leagues where some fixtures will need overnight stops.


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 12:39
The RFU is waiting on the Government to tell them what is allowed. With no clear guidance from Dominic Cummings it is very difficult for them to plan. The roadmap is at least clearer notice to Clubs than has been given to the NHS, the Hospitality industry or gyms!


Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 13:27
The clubs below Level 4 have now been advised of what the conference structures will be.  I think it's a pretty clear plan, and it isn't difficult to ascertain the timings of the windows based upon the number of fixtures planned in each scenario.  I know it's not the done thing to praise the RFU, but I think they've been open about their plans, and communication with clubs has been regular and consistent.


Posted By: Wigwam
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 13:28
Dont worry Boris has a cunning plan...............somewhere

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Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 15:02
he clubs below Level 4 have now been advised of what the conference structures will be.  I think it's a pretty clear plan, and it isn't difficult to ascertain the timings of the windows based upon the number of fixtures planned in each scenario.  I know it's not the done thing to praise the RFU, but I think they've been open about their plans, and communication with clubs has been regular and consistent.

Agree good below Level 4 - sensible plans.

For the NCA though ridiculous, no sensible splitting into conferences to reduce travel and overnight stays.
Plus a veiled threat at the very bottom of the post to withdraw or at least travel funding.
But no official word to the clubs on this, diabolical.


Posted By: sidelined
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 17:56
If we follow the principle of social distancing, any overnight trip would mean that each player would have to have their own room, can you imagine the cost implications?


Posted By: MikeGC
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 18:41
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

The clubs below Level 4 have now been advised of what the conference structures will be.  I think it's a pretty clear plan, and it isn't difficult to ascertain the timings of the windows based upon the number of fixtures planned in each scenario.  I know it's not the done thing to praise the RFU, but I think they've been open about their plans, and communication with clubs has been regular and consistent.


We’re level 5 and to the best of my knowledge we've heard nothing about this from any official source


Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 19:04
Rumour is that it has been "leaked" just in the Midlands - someone's in trouble apparently


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 21:27
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Rumour is that it has been "leaked" just in the Midlands - someone's in trouble apparently

Yeah, Staffs RFU had it


Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2020 at 14:49
Cov Telegraph reporter @bobby_bridge tweeted the Midlands level league splits a day or so ago.

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Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 11:43
If Rugby starts full on, the issue of social distancing in travel and hotels becomes irrelevant.

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 13:33
Originally posted by Old Hooker Old Hooker wrote:

If Rugby starts full on, the issue of social distancing in travel and hotels becomes irrelevant.


Nick, that is probably why it won't start until January?

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Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:11
I would have thought the team bus would be more of a danger for passing on Covid19 than the sporadic contact on a rugby field in the open air, including the scrum.
6 hours x 2 on coach is a long time.


Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:45
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU is waiting on the Government to tell them what is allowed. With no clear guidance from Dominic Cummings it is very difficult for them to plan. The roadmap is at least clearer notice to Clubs than has been given to the NHS, the Hospitality industry or gyms!

I believe Dominic Cummings has said the playing of games in Durham without any restrictions is absolutely fine if that helps.


Posted By: Redted
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 14:59
But only in Barnard Castle.
Or at the Leicester Mayors girlfriends house.


Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 16:00


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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2020 at 16:58
Or in Athens, apparently!


Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 11:51
Well Rugby has returned and from what I have seen neither Players have learned to scrum and the Refs officiating of the scrum and put ins is still pathetic GRRRRR

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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 19:31
We are getting there! Contact in groups of 6 for up to 15 minutes allowed from 1st September. A lot of happy props!!


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 20:01
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

We are getting there! Contact in groups of 6 for up to 15 minutes allowed from 1st September. A lot of happy props!!


Is that level C or level D?

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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 21:10
Stage D!


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 00:13
Not sure why, still no scrums, or mauls.
They can practice lifting in the line-out. 


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Posted By: Flish
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 18:19
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Not sure why, still no scrums, or mauls.
They can practice lifting in the line-out. 

Don’t want anything that can result in face to face contact for longer than a second or two


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 19:01
They can tackle and ruck! My front 5 forwards just want to do something more than run with a ball which isn’t their greatest skill!


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 10:06
Worrying peice on the World Tonight last night from Buxton and others:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000m57q" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000m57q
listen from 39 minutes until the end.


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Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 15:30
I truly hope the Longeaton rep was being overly pessimistic. For a certain amount of time no sport was allowed. Then when adapted versions of tennis, golf and cricket (it was the summer) returned there was a real upsurge in the numbers wanting to participate in these sports. Golf is struggling to cope with the increased demand. My local cricket club has gone from struggling to get 4 teams out over a weekend last season to getting 6 teams out for each of the last 4 weekends. People want to play sport. Whilst rugby cannot return at present to its normal state the new Stage D regulations allow an awful lot of what happens in a rugby match to take place now. Scrums, mauls and lineouts are integral to the game and they will be back just not at the moment. Positive, innovative clubs and coaches will ensure their numbers will survive and thrive. Negative, closed minded clubs and coaches will ensure their doomsday prophesy is fulfiled


Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 11:06
According to the latest Covid 19 newsletter there will be no rugby in October. Their next review will come on 1st October. Unless something dramatic happens with Covid even if we move to E on the road map then it will have to be at least a further four weeks before any rugby can be considered. That is looking at December at the least. 


Posted By: Sid James
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 11:35
Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

According to the latest Covid 19 newsletter there will be no rugby in October. Their next review will come on 1st October. Unless something dramatic happens with Covid even if we move to E on the road map then it will have to be at least a further four weeks before any rugby can be considered. That is looking at December at the least. 

No. 
That's looking at 28th November for the first match of a 22 match season. I believe that this is the RFU/Sweeny's new target.
If we move to Stage E on 1st Oct we could move to Stage F 4 weeks after that and resume playing at the beginning of November but, that may need a bit of a push.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 12:16
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by workerbee workerbee wrote:

According to the latest Covid 19 newsletter there will be no rugby in October. Their next review will come on 1st October. Unless something dramatic happens with Covid even if we move to E on the road map then it will have to be at least a further four weeks before any rugby can be considered. That is looking at December at the least. 


No. 
That's looking at 28th November for the first match of a 22 match season. I believe that this is the RFU/Sweeny's new target.
If we move to Stage E on 1st Oct we could move to Stage F 4 weeks after that and resume playing at the beginning of November but, that may need a bit of a push.


28th November for league rugby to start would be good, 1st November even better.

I would assume crowds would be allowed, masks and social distancing (if required) unless eating/drinking or smoking.

Sounds like progress.

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 13:11
I do not see how we can we start the league without at least some pre-season matches.
So for league by 28th Nov we would need competitive XV a side play from 1 Nov.
Which means stage E training before them.
If we got stage E by September 14th - and F by October 1st we could be playing league matches by November 1st - but I am not sure that is likely.




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Posted By: workerbee
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 13:18
In a recent visit Sweeney was of the opinion that Rugby would start in January the best option would be for a 45 game season rolling 2020/21 and 2021/22 into one season. This would give enough time for the Premiership and Championship to decide their future structures and avoid three seasons of chaos.


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 13:49
Paragraph below from today's. community game update.

"In line with the above announcement regarding move to Stage D, and with no set date on when we will reach Stage F, we can confirm that there will be no competitive rugby restart in October for adult or age grade rugby unless there is a dramatic improvement in the prevalence of the virus in the community."

https://www.englandrugby.com//dxdam/cf/cf50993e-0906-4485-bf85-3f501c34abe4/02.09.20%20CGU.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.englandrugby.com//dxdam/cf/cf50993e-0906-4485-bf85-3f501c34abe4/02.09.20%20CGU.pdf

We have to get to stage E by 1st November, to be able to play again in December. Every week we don't get the Stage E in November pushes restart of full contact competitive games back by the same time frame. So if Stage E isn't here by the 21st November it will be 2021 before we see competitive club rugby. Some Clubs in local lockdown area's are being told to either stay at C or even go back to B.


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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 14:43
The 45 game season has been rejected by NCA Clubs in the survey last month. Our best hope IMHO is a 22 game season starting December or January and running through to June. Level 2's daft plans remain a sticking point. 

Crowds can return to watch inter-Club Ready4Rugby and other Touch Rugby now, however, they must follow the Government guidelines on social distancing which means more than 6 in a group ONLY if they are from two households. This could be difficult to manage, but not impossible.


Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 18:39
Can we call games a "Rave" and just get on with it. Fanciful I know but we will not be prosecuted

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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 19:52
Originally posted by Old Hooker Old Hooker wrote:

Can we call games a "Rave" and just get on with it. Fanciful I know but we will not be prosecuted


If you supply the wine Nick

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Posted By: DICKON
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 23:20
Think the RFU will be watching Scotland closely - grassroots rugby is back from 31st Oct there.


Posted By: French Connection
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 00:18
Here in France, we've just tonight played our first pre season friendly - full on, everything as normal but for some really silly rules about wearing masks as we walked into the changing rooms. We've another on Saturday and the season begins for Federal Leagues on 13 September. I'm not really sure how or why considering the fuss the French government are making about the continuing danger of the virus but there you go.


Posted By: marigold
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 07:45
If the Scots league matches start at end of October they must surely allow the clubs at least 4 -6 weeks to physically prepare the players before they are into full on matches. So does that mean they can scrum and maul and have opposed lineouts by mid/end September? Would love to know what science those decisions have been made on and why/how it differs from the science the RFU, WRU and IRFU appear to be are following?


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 09:01
While I do not want to exonerate the RFU they are dealin with the only organisation even more incompetant the current British government. RFU need to get DCMS approval for decisions, while SRU talk to the slightly less chaotic Scottish administration.

Also I do not believe Englis Civil Servants are any less competent than a Scot, but the leadership seems more distracted.


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Posted By: greeneyed
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 09:58
Difficult to see how promotion and relegation can be valid in a truncated season. Imbalance in opposition in Home vs Away fixtures, and possible cancellations, as in RL, if a team (or even its staff or 3rd-teamers) shows up positive.


Posted By: DICKON
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 10:01
...which makes it more difficult for the RFU to implement any restructure at the end of this season. They should kick the plan into the short grass for another season.


Posted By: Novocastrian
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 11:04
A player at Tynedale tested positive for Covid and the whole club now isn’t training. 

I think it may take longer than we all imagined to get back to playing?


Posted By: PiffPaff
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 11:29
Sadly Novo you are correct. keep seeing optimistic posts elsewhere of a November start..... well that's the absolute earliest and I can't see us getting there when HM Gov can't decided whats what and as you point out soon as someone tests positive and has trained with that Group/Club they all have to twiddle thumbs for 14 days! I'm still sticking with a 2021 restart but my hoped for January is looking less likely.

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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 12:09
I do find it intriguing to read the regular announcements of numbers. The number of cases is ticking up but the number of deaths has dropped significantly, last day count was 7. It does seem that the increase in testing is identifying more people with the virus which raises the question that if we had been testing at this level in April/May would our case numbers actually have been exponentially higher? It's almost as if we have now seen most people who will die of the virus pass away and most new cases just get the virus, isolates and recovers. 

How that helps I don't know! We are taking up the RFU idea of Pitch Up to Rugby next weekend 12th/13th September and trying to encourage supporters and players to bring new friends. Mainly we are doing this to show the Community that we are open for rugby-linked activity.


Posted By: BE57 REF
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 12:10
Originally posted by DICKON DICKON wrote:

Think the RFU will be watching Scotland closely - grassroots rugby is back from 31st Oct there.


Let's not get too carried away here. True, the NCA website extract from the interview with Steve Grainger does say Scottish grassroots rugby "is back" from 31 October - but if you listen to the interview, it is not that clear. There is nothing on SRU website (as far as I can see!) to confirm restart on 31 October, other than this as a target date on the SRU roadmap released on 3 July - see https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/return-to-rugby-roadmap" rel="nofollow - https://www.scottishrugby.org/news/return-to-rugby-roadmap

Grainger makes the point that the SRU approach has been to push for dates even though these may have to be pushed back if conditions require; RFU approach is more cautious but progress can be accelerated if conditions permit.

Under the SRU roadmap, stage 4 (same as RFU Stage D - modified contact), which has a target date of August, can not start until the Scottish Government reaches Phase 4 of its routemap, and return to competitive rugby at Stage 6 (same as RFU Stage F) will be some way behind that - but Scottish press reports indicate that Scotland is still in Phase 3 and will not reach Phase 4 until at least 1 October - see https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/when-phase-4-scotland-date-scottish-government-could-ease-lockdown-restrictions-and-next-review-details-2908941" rel="nofollow - https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/when-phase-4-scotland-date-scottish-government-could-ease-lockdown-restrictions-and-next-review-details-2908941

This does not support any expectation that competitive grassroots rugby will restart in Scotland any time soon. I would love to be wrong (so please correct me if I have misunderstood) - but I don't think it is helpful of NCA to suggest that Scotland will be back by 31 October, thereby creating false expectations south of the border. Separate posters have referred to Bill Sweeney looking to a November restart for the community game in England but many will regard even that as optimistic.



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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 15:00
Originally posted by BE57 REF BE57 REF wrote:

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This does not support any expectation that competitive grassroots rugby will restart in Scotland any time soon. I would love to be wrong (so please correct me if I have misunderstood) - but I don't think it is helpful of NCA to suggest that Scotland will be back by 31 October, thereby creating false expectations south of the border. Separate posters have referred to Bill Sweeney looking to a November restart for the community game in England but many will regard even that as optimistic.


I too have not seen anything to suggest grassroots rugby will be restarting in Scotland on 31st October. 


Posted By: Stoo The Zoom
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 18:24
Here is a report from Rouen Normandie Rugby, apparently one of their players tested positive for the virus
 "In light of the new results obtained in the COVID tests on Tuesday, September 1, the medical commission of the NRL has decided to postpone the match of Friday, September 4, which was to oppose the RNR to the US Carcassonne to a later date.
We are very sorry for this situation because we were delighted to meet you all at Stade Mermoz to start this new season."
  The only emission is how long the whole team have to isolate.  
How long before it happens here?


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 19:50
Originally posted by Stoo The Zoom Stoo The Zoom wrote:

Here is a report from Rouen Normandie Rugby, apparently one of their players tested positive for the virus
 "<span style="color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">In light of the new results obtained in the COVID tests on Tuesday, September 1, the medical commission of the NRL has decided to postpone the match of Friday, September 4, which was to oppose the RNR to the US Carcassonne to a later date.</span><div dir="ltr" style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">
<div style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; vertical-align: inherit;">We are very sorry for this situation because we were delighted to meet you all at Stade Mermoz to start this new season."<div dir="ltr" style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; vertical-align: inherit;">  The only emission is how long the whole team have to isolate.  <div style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; color: rgb24, 24, 24; font-family: Lato, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font style="outline: 0px; -sizing: border-; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; -repeat: no-repeat; vertical-align: inherit;">How long before it happens here?



It has already happened several times in RL Super League - sometimes they have just changed fixtures around to get the maximum number of games in.

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Posted By: Blutarsky
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 07:00
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

I do find it intriguing to read the regular announcements of numbers. The number of cases is ticking up but the number of deaths has dropped significantly, last day count was 7. It does seem that the increase in testing is identifying more people with the virus which raises the question that if we had been testing at this level in April/May would our case numbers actually have been exponentially higher? It's almost as if we have now seen most people who will die of the virus pass away and most new cases just get the virus, isolates and recovers. 

There is a lag between a rise in case numbers and a rise in deaths. People don’t catch the virus and die immediately, but deteriorate over time before passing away. 


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 08:23
Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

I do find it intriguing to read the regular announcements of numbers. The number of cases is ticking up but the number of deaths has dropped significantly, last day count was 7. It does seem that the increase in testing is identifying more people with the virus which raises the question that if we had been testing at this level in April/May would our case numbers actually have been exponentially higher? It's almost as if we have now seen most people who will die of the virus pass away and most new cases just get the virus, isolates and recovers. 

There is a lag between a rise in case numbers and a rise in deaths. People don’t catch the virus and die immediately, but deteriorate over time before passing away. 

The reason we had stupidly high death statistics earlier was because of overzealous/lazy doctors who were just putting corona down as a cause of death without the test results to support it.  The reason why deaths are much lower now is because more people are being tested and they stopped doctors putting corona on death certificates without a valid test result plus we now know about certain steroids that assist with treatment.


Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 09:29
Don't know why the RFU/NCA don't just come out  and put everybody out of their misery and say we are not looking to start before Jan, with a possible half a season, we will update everybody on Nov 1st. That way everybody could plan accordingly!! 


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 10:43
The RFU has said its next update will be on 2nd October. The NCA website yesterday carried a statement from Bill Sweeney following the meeting that he and other sport leaders had with the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden. I suspect that the DCMS and the Treasury are now arguing over how much funding the Government can provide to help Clubs survive the winter.


Posted By: backrowb
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 11:48
Can't see any club rugby until a vaccine  or other medical breakthrough arrives. Very  sad.


Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 12:15
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU has said its next update will be on 2nd October. The NCA website yesterday carried a statement from Bill Sweeney following the meeting that he and other sport leaders had with the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden. I suspect that the DCMS and the Treasury are now arguing over how much funding the Government can provide to help Clubs survive the winter.

That really has nothing to do with club rugby, that will all be about Prem and England set up. I'd not hold out for much hope at getting any windfall down at level 4, mind you, I think you will get the square route of sweet FA at level 2!


Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 12:24
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

I do find it intriguing to read the regular announcements of numbers. The number of cases is ticking up but the number of deaths has dropped significantly, last day count was 7. It does seem that the increase in testing is identifying more people with the virus which raises the question that if we had been testing at this level in April/May would our case numbers actually have been exponentially higher? It's almost as if we have now seen most people who will die of the virus pass away and most new cases just get the virus, isolates and recovers. 

There is a lag between a rise in case numbers and a rise in deaths. People don’t catch the virus and die immediately, but deteriorate over time before passing away. 

The reason we had stupidly high death statistics earlier was because of overzealous/lazy doctors who were just putting corona down as a cause of death without the test results to support it.  The reason why deaths are much lower now is because more people are being tested and they stopped doctors putting corona on death certificates without a valid test result plus we now know about certain steroids that assist with treatment.

Whilst currently deaths of those who are infected lies at 1%.
Apparently what they have discovered is mechanical ventilation might not be the right solution.  https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1332330/coronavirus-latest-news-coronavirus-uk-lockdown-uk-cases-ventilators-boris-johnson" rel="nofollow - https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1332330/coronavirus-latest-news-coronavirus-uk-lockdown-uk-cases-ventilators-boris-johnson



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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 12:29
Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU has said its next update will be on 2nd October. The NCA website yesterday carried a statement from Bill Sweeney following the meeting that he and other sport leaders had with the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden. I suspect that the DCMS and the Treasury are now arguing over how much funding the Government can provide to help Clubs survive the winter.

That really has nothing to do with club rugby, that will all be about Prem and England set up. I'd not hold out for much hope at getting any windfall down at level 4, mind you, I think you will get the square route of sweet FA at level 2!
 
I really feel the same.
Football and Rugby League have played on how they are heart of a community at lower levels. Yet in some places, Bedford the rugby is an important part of the community, and across Cornwall seems a number of prominent clubs in communities there. But the RFU don’t seemed to have banged that drum.



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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 14:19
Originally posted by kempstonblue kempstonblue wrote:

Originally posted by Scrumtime Scrumtime wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU has said its next update will be on 2nd October. The NCA website yesterday carried a statement from Bill Sweeney following the meeting that he and other sport leaders had with the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden. I suspect that the DCMS and the Treasury are now arguing over how much funding the Government can provide to help Clubs survive the winter.


That really has nothing to do with club rugby, that will all be about Prem and England set up. I'd not hold out for much hope at getting any windfall down at level 4, mind you, I think you will get the square route of sweet FA at level 2!

 
I really feel the same.
Football and Rugby League have played on how they are heart of a community at lower levels. Yet in some places, Bedford the rugby is an important part of the community, and across Cornwall seems a number of prominent clubs in communities there. But the RFU don’t seemed to have banged that drum.



I think the RFU drum went in the previous round of funding cuts

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 16:13
There was a piece on Today a few days ago where RFU and Moseley were making that point. 
Getting coverage in the media is hard - and the RFU has chosen to only talk about England and the 12 chosen clubs for 20 years.
People know about small soccer clubs because they hear the classified results every Saturday.
You could be forgiven for thinking that there are only ever 6 games of Rugby played in England.



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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 16:51
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

There was a piece on Today a few days ago where RFU and Moseley were making that point. 
Getting coverage in the media is hard - and the RFU has chosen to only talk about England and the 12 chosen clubs for 20 years.
People know about small soccer clubs because they hear the classified results every Saturday.
You could be forgiven for thinking that there are only ever 6 games of Rugby played in England.


Although a Blues person.Judging your profile you follow the biggest club in East Anglia. 15 years ago my late Father was treated at the hospital in Cambridge. Whilst leaving him and mum for a chat, I spent a couple of afternoons at Blood and Sand. Hope a Saturday afternoon there happens again soon.


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Posted By: Scrumtime
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 17:34
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

There was a piece on Today a few days ago where RFU and Moseley were making that point. 
Getting coverage in the media is hard - and the RFU has chosen to only talk about England and the 12 chosen clubs for 20 years.
People know about small soccer clubs because they hear the classified results every Saturday.
You could be forgiven for thinking that there are only ever 6 games of Rugby played in England.

You really surprised Moseley involved: Number of players they have signed including Johnson they are in need of every penny through the gate they can get. 


Posted By: Blutarsky
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 20:41
Not physically seen this for myself yet, but apparently new proposals have been sent out by the NCA: no start until new year, no league season. Regionalised round robins of six Nat 1 & 2 teams which will then feed into an national cup. 

Seems sensible. 



Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 20:58
Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

Not physically seen this for myself yet, but apparently new proposals have been sent out by the NCA: no start until new year, no league season. Regionalised round robins of six Nat 1 & 2 teams which will then feed into an national cup. 

Seems sensible. 


Telegraph suggesting no league games at all until January 2021 at earliest.


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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 20:59
Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

Not physically seen this for myself yet, but apparently new proposals have been sent out by the NCA: no start until new year, no league season. Regionalised round robins of six Nat 1 & 2 teams which will then feed into an national cup. 

Seems sensible. 


And what of Nat 3 and below?


Posted By: Camp Freddie
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 21:12
RFU just released news that outside of Prem, Championship and Womens Prem there is no rugby till 1st Jan earliest.

The term earliest says alot I think, prepare for the worst boys.


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Posted By: Keppeltitan
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 22:31
Makes you wonder how many clubs will be left in January. 


Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 22:39
Originally posted by Keppeltitan Keppeltitan wrote:

Makes you wonder how many clubs will be left in January. 

I try not to think of it.


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Posted By: Fudgepacker
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 22:50
There will be no community rugby in season 2020/21. It's been blindingly obvious for months. We will go backwards in the 'return to rugby' framework before we go forwards. Let's all get realistic, chaps, tighten our belts and try to survive the pandemic.


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 22:55
The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 23:27
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54289805" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/54289805


Posted By: Fudgepacker
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2020 at 23:30
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.

Sorry, what relevance has this got when we won't be starting until September 2021 (if we are lucky)? The NCA has no say in the matter.


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 09:10
Originally posted by Fudgepacker Fudgepacker wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.

Sorry, what relevance has this got when we won't be starting until September 2021 (if we are lucky)? The NCA has no say in the matter.
Your club is new to Level 4. That and Level 3 are the member Clubs of the NCA and have control over their competitions within the RFU framework. NCA Clubs were asked in August what they wanted for this season and rejected, for example, a 45 match season, i.e. 15 this year added to 30 next year. You can only speculate that there will be no rugby before September, I am working on what has actually been said which is that rugby could be played from January.


Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 10:32
Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Fudgepacker Fudgepacker wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.

Sorry, what relevance has this got when we won't be starting until September 2021 (if we are lucky)? The NCA has no say in the matter.
Your club is new to Level 4. That and Level 3 are the member Clubs of the NCA and have control over their competitions within the RFU framework. NCA Clubs were asked in August what they wanted for this season and rejected, for example, a 45 match season, i.e. 15 this year added to 30 next year. You can only speculate that there will be no rugby before September, I am working on what has actually been said which is that rugby could be played from January.

Ultimately it is the Government who tell the RFU who tell the NCA when games can go ahead. The NCA have to work in this framework, not outside of it.


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Posted By: WEvans
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 14:46
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Fudgepacker Fudgepacker wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.

Sorry, what relevance has this got when we won't be starting until September 2021 (if we are lucky)? The NCA has no say in the matter.
Your club is new to Level 4. That and Level 3 are the member Clubs of the NCA and have control over their competitions within the RFU framework. NCA Clubs were asked in August what they wanted for this season and rejected, for example, a 45 match season, i.e. 15 this year added to 30 next year. You can only speculate that there will be no rugby before September, I am working on what has actually been said which is that rugby could be played from January.

Ultimately it is the Government who tell the RFU who tell the NCA when games can go ahead. The NCA have to work in this framework, not outside of it. 

And ultimately it is Dominic Cummings who tells the Government who tell the RFU who tell the NCA when games can go ahead of course.


Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 16:42
I am not political But I think every tackle bag should have a picture of Cummings on it and The Sage Ctte should be loaned out for Rucking practice.
Just a thought. After testing of cohazelnut

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Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 16:43
oops of cohazelnut

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Posted By: Old Hooker
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 16:44
something strange with the web site


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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 16:52
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Fudgepacker Fudgepacker wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

The RFU have acted as quickly as they could, once the rules had been tightened. They have also made clear to the DCMS the need to support community clubs which are in danger of closure. The DCMS asked this week for details of clubs facing imminent closure. The NCA has yet to decide between a 15 match season or a round robin league with a Cup at the end. Whatever happens we will need our volunteers now. We had 60+ at training tonight, 2 bar staff and 5 volunteers providing table service in 3 rooms. That will be the pattern from now on until restrictions are eased.

Sorry, what relevance has this got when we won't be starting until September 2021 (if we are lucky)? The NCA has no say in the matter.
Your club is new to Level 4. That and Level 3 are the member Clubs of the NCA and have control over their competitions within the RFU framework. NCA Clubs were asked in August what they wanted for this season and rejected, for example, a 45 match season, i.e. 15 this year added to 30 next year. You can only speculate that there will be no rugby before September, I am working on what has actually been said which is that rugby could be played from January.

Ultimately it is the Government who tell the RFU who tell the NCA when games can go ahead. The NCA have to work in this framework, not outside of it. 

And ultimately it is Dominic Cummings who tells the Government who tell the RFU who tell the NCA when games can go ahead of course.

Breaking  News. 
All NCA matches behind closed doors in Durham.
Every player to be CoVid19 and sight tested.



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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 17:19
... in Barnard Castle!


Posted By: BE57 REF
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 16:31
Contrary to the scepticism in my earlier post on this thread (4 September), I see that Scottish RU are pressing ahead with full contact training from 5 October and "subject to approval from the Scottish Government" warm-up friendly fixtures from 19 October and full competitive rugby from 31 October. See https://www.scottishrugby.org/clubs-and-schools/return-to-rugby" rel="nofollow - https://www.scottishrugby.org/clubs-and-schools/return-to-rugby
A friend in Scotland has alerted me to the publication of fixtures for the 2020/21 season - see for example https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/kirkcaldy-rfc-take-part-reduced-national-competition-2981045" rel="nofollow - https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/kirkcaldy-rfc-take-part-reduced-national-competition-2981045
It might all come crashing down and there is no reference to spectator protocols - but does seem more than we are being offered south of the border.....



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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 22:02
Interesting! I presume one or two Scottish Ministers have played rugby whereas all the English ones just shoot grouse. The RFU is pushing hard fir us to start on 1st January, I’ve just spent an hour completing the RFU Club Finance Survey which they asked for today. Quite fun trying to guess the impact of no rugby at all this season!


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2020 at 23:51
Boris played at Eton and possibly at the other place.
Gordon Brown definitely played at University and lost his eye to a stray stud.
I do not know of any Prime Minister who played top level rugby.
One played first class cricket.


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Posted By: Blutarsky
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 16:16
NCA cup proposals as I mentioned the other day: 

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

EDIT: Click images to enlarge 
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Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 


Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 16:27
Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

NCA cup proposals as I mentioned the other day: 

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

EDIT: Click images to enlarge 
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Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

Also naming clubs from the East Anglia area (and Guernsey) south east whilst clubs like Tonbridge and Blackheath being further south and further east are "London West"? I'd probably switch Canterbury and Guernsey and call it "East" and "South East" respectively since otherwise that group'll be a pain for Guernsey getting to games from Gatwick Airport


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 16:51
I think the East and West labels are simply the wrong way round.

The odd thing is that Barnes not in the same group as Rosslyn Park.
Barnes could change at home and walk to the Rock.
But while swapping Esher and Park would make a lot of sense geographically, it would make London "West" very Nat 1 heavy, so I understand why they have done it that way.

I assume they are thinking Guensey can fly to Stansted or Southend.


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Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 17:04
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

NCA cup proposals as I mentioned the other day: 

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

EDIT: Click images to enlarge 
https://ibb.co/6PSKjTS" rel="nofollow">
https://ibb.co/fM4GY6W" rel="nofollow">

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 



Also naming clubs from the East Anglia area (and Guernsey) south east whilst clubs like Tonbridge and Blackheath being further south and further east are "London West"? I'd probably switch Canterbury and Guernsey and call it "East" and "South East" respectively since otherwise that group'll be a pain for Guernsey getting to games from Gatwick Airport




Guernsey seem to have been used as fillers in these groups - none of the teams being anywhere near Gatwick where they are assumed to be based.

Also can you explain Leicester Lions being in Yorkshire - I'm sure they would expect to be in the same group as Hinckley?

When I was at school, a long time ago I know, Huddersfield was in Yorkshire not the North West!

I must have missed something - I was under the assumption that a January start would be play everyone once in your division.

If you don't start in January, you might as well bin the season.

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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 17:25
Aurigny claim to fly to Stansted and if they do then it makes sense.
However, I am not sure they are at the moment.

The Hull clubs are in the North East. They will be driving past Wharfedale on the way.


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Posted By: Richard Lowther
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 17:59
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

NCA cup proposals as I mentioned the other day: 

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

EDIT: Click images to enlarge 
https://ibb.co/6PSKjTS" rel="nofollow">
https://ibb.co/fM4GY6W" rel="nofollow">

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 



Also naming clubs from the East Anglia area (and Guernsey) south east whilst clubs like Tonbridge and Blackheath being further south and further east are "London West"? I'd probably switch Canterbury and Guernsey and call it "East" and "South East" respectively since otherwise that group'll be a pain for Guernsey getting to games from Gatwick Airport




Guernsey seem to have been used as fillers in these groups - none of the teams being anywhere near Gatwick where they are assumed to be based.

Also can you explain Leicester Lions being in Yorkshire - I'm sure they would expect to be in the same group as Hinckley?

When I was at school, a long time ago I know, Huddersfield was in Yorkshire not the North West!

I must have missed something - I was under the assumption that a January start would be play everyone once in your division.

If you don't start in January, you might as well bin the season.


I suspect the groups were done to get an even distribution. I am sure we can all pick faults - which show no answer is the correct one. 

Just lets hope there is some rugby for them to play!


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Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2020 at 22:36
Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Blutarsky Blutarsky wrote:

NCA cup proposals as I mentioned the other day: 

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 

EDIT: Click images to enlarge 
https://ibb.co/6PSKjTS" rel="nofollow">
https://ibb.co/fM4GY6W" rel="nofollow">

Groupings look suspect... Canterbury in London WEST??? 



Also naming clubs from the East Anglia area (and Guernsey) south east whilst clubs like Tonbridge and Blackheath being further south and further east are "London West"? I'd probably switch Canterbury and Guernsey and call it "East" and "South East" respectively since otherwise that group'll be a pain for Guernsey getting to games from Gatwick Airport




Guernsey seem to have been used as fillers in these groups - none of the teams being anywhere near Gatwick where they are assumed to be based.

Also can you explain Leicester Lions being in Yorkshire - I'm sure they would expect to be in the same group as Hinckley?

When I was at school, a long time ago I know, Huddersfield was in Yorkshire not the North West!

I must have missed something - I was under the assumption that a January start would be play everyone once in your division.

If you don't start in January, you might as well bin the season.


I suspect the groups were done to get an even distribution. I am sure we can all pick faults - which show no answer is the correct one. 

Just lets hope there is some rugby for them to play!

I don’t know the origin of this structure. It certainly hasn’t reached me from the NCA so I’m not convinced it’s real. Canterbury in London West seems designed to upset Giles Hilton who doesn’t want Canterbury to leave Kent for their matches!


Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 11:38
The groups look interesting, but you can see they were put together by someone who has never ventured outside of the M25 corridor lol.


Posted By: Pappashanga
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 12:49
Don't think they've consulted their A to Z. Eltham is in south east London, as is Blackheath. Why are they allocated to West London? Rosslyn Park is in West London yet it's allocated to East London. I think this needs revision.I could point out other anomalies. Whoever did this should have consulted a map.


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Posted By: Thunderbird
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 13:29
And who is going to fund travelling to and from Guernsey along with the hotel if needed. 


Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 14:18
Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

Don't think they've consulted their A to Z. Eltham is in south east London, as is Blackheath. Why are they allocated to West London? Rosslyn Park is in West London yet it's allocated to East London. I think this needs revision.I could point out other anomalies. Whoever did this should have consulted a map.
It's pretty obvious that the East and West labels have been mixed up.


Posted By: Raider999
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 16:03
Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

Originally posted by Pappashanga Pappashanga wrote:

Don't think they've consulted their A to Z. Eltham is in south east London, as is Blackheath. Why are they allocated to West London? Rosslyn Park is in West London yet it's allocated to East London. I think this needs revision.I could point out other anomalies. Whoever did this should have consulted a map.

It's pretty obvious that the East and West labels have been mixed up.


Yes, agreed, that is a distinct possibility.

Doesn't explain the Yorkshire grouping problems though.



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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 16:44
Originally posted by Thunderbird Thunderbird wrote:

And who is going to fund travelling to and from Guernsey along with the hotel if needed. 

Guernsey always fly back the same day while the RFU only pay for flights for visiting teams. If the clubs want a hotel, the club has to pay for that themselves.


Posted By: Halliford
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 17:22
My contacts at the NCA say that a structure like this is under discussion but this particular document is nowhere near a final version. Who leaked it?!


Posted By: Thunderbird
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2020 at 18:07
Hi Robb, not when they play us I am led to believe. We also recieved reduced funding for accommodation last season. 
It is clear to me that who ever plans these fixture has no clue on logistics. Every time we have played Guernsey the RFU want us there and back in a day , from the depths a Suffolk to Gatwick as Stansted has reduced flights later in the year... Every year we have the same conversation which results in hotel funding but no double bus trip. So one cancels out the other. Bit of a joke really. 


Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2020 at 09:40
What makes me think it is an RFU plan is the fact it takes more games than a single round-robin, so needed to start earlier. I think it would need to start by January 1st to end before the end of May. Mind you, it could lose two weeks by carrying forward the matches against the other team from your initial group into the quarter-final pools.

It will be a struggle to get match sponsors and lunch tables sponsors for the quarter-final games as you will not know which weeks you will be at home. Assuming we are allowed such things.

It is obviously a complete U turn from the previous position of maintaining the league structure.

It also relies on Guernsey being able to get flights to Stansted - that currently are not happening. Though actually if they can get the airline to add those, why  not try to get it to fly to Southend or Cambridge and save some travel at the far end. I assume the club have looked into chartering the plane and it is far too expensive.

Yes, it has all the hallmarks.


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Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2020 at 10:44
It still boggles the mind how they can put Guernsey, a (technically) Hampshire club that flies into Gatwick, in a group of clubs from Essex and East Anglia. 



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