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Direct Link To This Post Topic: Promotion/Relegation 2012
    Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 10:19
I've started collating all the teams that have already clinched promotion or been doomed to relegation at Levels 2 to 6 - please let me know if I have made any mistakes!  Note that all teams have been relegated to the appropriate league for their CB, though this could be changed afterwards by Level Transfer.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 21:19
I hadn't realised Newbury were going down too. That is 2 former level 2 clubs going into level 6 then. Excellent facilities for a level 6 club, that's for sure (not been to Manchester so I do not know their facilities)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 10:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 18:06
What a pity that Hartpury College are not in the running for possible promotion this season, it would have been interesting to see them come up against Loughborough in National 1.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 09:02
looking forward to rejoining National 2 and renewing with a few old friends.
 
Shame when you see clubs like Manchester and Newbury plummeting. I hope we learn the lessons of their mistakes. Ie, never live beyond your means and always retain a connection with your locality (local sponsors, players, the rest of the club).  Dramatic overhaul of players, and sponsors will, ulitmately do you no good what so ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 19:24
Rugby Lions have won promotion today following their close win over Dudley Kingswinford. Presumably Lions will return to Nat 2 North.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 19:39
Canterbury return to N2S at the 1st time of asking after their win at Luton.

Well done Canterbury.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 19:41
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It looks very much like it with BS, Stourbridge and Barking relegated from Nat One.  They will probably go into N2S,  but who can predict what the RFU will do?  Luctonians may well be relocated to N2S as may Bromsgrove.  Time will tell. 
 
Rugby Lions will do well in N2N if they follow the example of Stockport, Sheffield Tigers and Bromsgrove this season.  They have spent well and deserve promotion. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 08:44
Yesterday's games saw some more promotions and relegations:

Birmingham & Solihull down from National 1
Stourbridge down from National 1
Kendal down from National 2 North
Rugby Lions up from National 3 Midlands
Canterbury up from National 3 London & SE
Altrincham Kersal down from National 3 North
Bracknell down from National 3 London & SE
Billingham up from North 1 East
Derby up from Midlands 1 East



(A couple of teams are practically there but for mathematics - Sutton Coldfield would have to blow a 200+ points difference lead and Morley overturn even more - but it's not official yet!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 09:23
Bees are down barring a side suffering a points deduction. 
16 points adrift with only three games to go. 

Not sure which of Bees / Stourbridge would go South both belonging in Midlands Division so North.

Level transfers will depend on who wins the play off.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 09:25
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Bees are down barring a side suffering a points deduction. 
16 points adrift with only three games to go.


The RFU site has them only 15 points behind, and they have only one fewer win than Wharfedale, so mathematically they're still in the fight...

Quote Not sure which of Bees / Stourbridge would go South both belonging in Midlands Division so North.


Not sure which South West side I've confused Stourbridge with, but I've put them in the wrong league - give me a second to correct the diagram (again)!

Teams always get relegated to the appropriate league - Stourbridge and Birmingham/Solihull (or if miracles happen, Wharfedale) will go to National 2 North and Barking to National 2 South.  If the National 2 North runner-up wins the play-off, there will be no need for Level Transfer, if not, Rugby Lions are odds-on to transfer to National 2 South.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 14:10
RFU have not credited Wharfedale with yesterday's try bonus point.

According to the table and results on NCA site  - they should have 9  [Cov, Ealing, SP, Barking (h), Cambridge, Tynedale, Stour, Blaydon & Barking (a)]

RFU only give them 8. 

As to level transfer you think Rugby rather than Luctonians.

Thanks for the hard work. Excellent resource.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 15:06
Good enough for me - I'll stick them on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 16:34
Stourbridge to come South makes most sense travelwise. About 70 miles closer to us than either Shelford or Southend and much easier to get to. Also closer than Birmingham and certainly Rugby.

I'm sure the NCA has a formula and will make the pronouncement in due course although I think clubs may get the chance to "volunteer" first!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 17:05
I did the sums in another thread - these are the comparative distances to the clubs already known to be in National 2 South next year:
 
Rugby
Stourbridge
Barking
96
143
Canterbury
152
190
Clifton
97
80
Hartpury College
72
54
Henley
73
99
Launceston
215
199
Redruth
285
252
Shelford
73
115
Southend
119
165
Taunton
142
126
Total
1324
1423
 
Obviously there are still more clubs to consider, either staying in N2S or coming up from Level 5, but Rugby are leading candidates at the moment.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 17:45
Originally posted by CharlieP CharlieP wrote:

I did the sums in another thread - these are the comparative distances to the clubs already known to be in National 2 South next year:
 
Rugby
Stourbridge
Barking
96
143
Canterbury
152
190
Clifton
97
80
Hartpury College
72
54
Henley
73
99
Launceston
215
199
Redruth
285
252
Shelford
73
115
Southend
119
165
Taunton
142
126
Total
1324
1423
 
Obviously there are still more clubs to consider, either staying in N2N or coming up from Level 5, but Rugby are leading candidates at the moment.
Have you thought about Luctonians in this equation?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 17:46
Originally posted by Redhead Redhead wrote:

Stourbridge to come South makes most sense travelwise. About 70 miles closer to us than either Shelford or Southend and much easier to get to. Also closer than Birmingham and certainly Rugby.

I'm sure the NCA has a formula and will make the pronouncement in due course although I think clubs may get the chance to "volunteer" first!
 
It is not an NCA REgulation but an RFU Regulation. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 22:49
Following this thread it looks like the only teams being considered for level transfer are those which have been promoted or relegated. 
My understanding is that teams are promoted/relegated into their appropriate league and if there is an imbalance then the RFU consider the distances between all clubs to determine the level transferee - have I missed a trick?
I reckon Bromsgrove or Luctonians would be the closest to us in the SW.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 23:22
A decision concerning luctonians, we were promoted from National 3 Midlands with Hinckley 3seasons ago and we were deemed more "North" than them. (Traveling distances). Can only assume, due to motorway access, that Bees,Stourbridge,Rugby and bromsgrove are all less travelling south than us?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 09:05
Originally posted by Major Upset Major Upset wrote:

A decision concerning luctonians, we were promoted from National 3 Midlands with Hinckley 3seasons ago and we were deemed more "North" than them. (Traveling distances). Can only assume, due to motorway access, that Bees,Stourbridge,Rugby and bromsgrove are all less travelling south than us?
 
 
aware it's not as simple as how far north or south a club is, but the hinckley v lucs precedent is worth remembering, as hinckley is 16 miles NW of rugby...
 
i guess this annual feature will run and run, probably for most of the next two months...
 
a few years back nuneaton from 2 north travelled east, and a little north, to play north walsham, from 2 south, in the play-off. they won a close game i think it may have been 15-9 and 2 england caps on show - stimpson and garforth...
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