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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 11:45
There seem to be some fixture stirrings on the GMS Competitions website. All the Midlands Division fixtures are there except Midlands Premier.

In the South West Division all the team lists are there but the only fixtures to appear are the South West Premier. I would expect that these are not official yet and may change.

Week 1 07 Sep 2019
Barnstaple
 
v
 
To be arranged 13
Bracknell
 
v
 
Weston-super-Mare
Brixham
 
v
 
Okehampton
Camborne
 
v
 
Newbury Blues
Drybrook
 
v
 
Maidenhead
Exeter University
 
v
 
Launceston
Exmouth
 
v
 
Ivybridge


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:20
Originally posted by Griffin Griffin wrote:

There seem to be some fixture stirrings on the GMS Competitions website. All the Midlands Division fixtures are there except Midlands Premier.

In the South West Division all the team lists are there but the only fixtures to appear are the South West Premier. I would expect that these are not official yet and may change.

Week 1 07 Sep 2019
Barnstaple
 
v
 
To be arranged 13
Bracknell
 
v
 
Weston-super-Mare
Brixham
 
v
 
Okehampton
Camborne
 
v
 
Newbury Blues
Drybrook
 
v
 
Maidenhead
Exeter University
 
v
 
Launceston
Exmouth
 
v
 
Ivybridge


They have just posted that they started work on them today and should be done in the next 2 weeks.

No such update from LSE (typical and as expected!)


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Griffin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:25
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:


No such update from LSE (typical and as expected!)


I expect the LSE fixtures will be out before the Northern Division fixtures. The North always seems to be the last.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MCNRY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:29
Not sure where this news goes... Stuart Watkins, heavy squat 12 and Dorking's 2nd XV Players Player, joining Westcombe Park. 
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Any confirmation/further information yet, on who will be the final team in SW Prem next season? Anyone from Bromsgrove heard anything?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pr10r Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 13:28
I can only imagine that all final decisions are dependent on the outcome regarding Birmingham Bees?

If Bees fold - Bromsgrove don't level transfer and there is a reshuffle with leagues below SW Prem with higher placed relegated teams reinstated to last seasons league. (Hence temporary fixtures have not been published below SW Prem but have been below Midlands Prem)

If Bees survive - Bromsgrove are level transfered to SW Prem and leagues below can be published?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 13:41
I believe the cut off (aside from in the Championship) was on June 1st - so if Bees fold or transfer to merit leagues now the division simply goes ahead one short rather than shuffling teams up.

However, if they put the request in before June 1st and the league are trying to persuade them to stay up that might be different.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fudgepacker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 14:12
Originally posted by Pr10r Pr10r wrote:

I can only imagine that all final decisions are dependent on the outcome regarding Birmingham Bees?

If Bees fold - Bromsgrove don't level transfer and there is a reshuffle with leagues below SW Prem with higher placed relegated teams reinstated to last seasons league. (Hence temporary fixtures have not been published below SW Prem but have been below Midlands Prem)

If Bees survive - Bromsgrove are level transfered to SW Prem and leagues below can be published?


I have absolutely no knowledge and all this is a complete guess.

It was the Bees AGM last night. Does anyone know what was decided? When Rugby Lions collapsed at the end of season 2012/13, the 'best loser' from across the level 5 leagues was saved from relegation. On that occasion it was Syston. However, based on the points scored last season, the team saved would be Chingford in London & SE Premier, meaning that Bedford Athletic would be spared from level transfer. That's assuming of course that Bees are unable to continue at level 5 & the RFU adopt the same approach as last time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 14:28
I know the position but do not want to say until published on beesrugby.com. This should be v shortly today.
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Am I right in thinking that if Bees are gone then Midlands and London will go ahead with 14 and Southwest with 13?




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Originally posted by Jez Jez wrote:


The Bees statement is now available:
http://www.beesrugby.com/news/club-update-withdrawal-from-midlands-premier-leagu-2432541.html

That’s a bit of a shock. Does this mean Bromsgrove don’t go South West then?
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Will Cleve get a reprieve in SW Prem?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BruceElliott Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 15:17
This has been a possibility for a while and you'd hope the RFU would have plans in place for a decision either way.

There's no reason they shouldn't be able to announce fixtures almost immediately.  Whether they will or not, of course, is a different matter!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Athman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 16:07
If Camquins previous and detailed research on this is correct then Midlands will go ahead with 14 teams and South West with 13.

It's actually the best solution as it avoids the almighty row that was brewing between Midlands who were refusing to transfer a team to the South West and the RFU who might have felt they had to force Bromsgrove's transfer over the head of both the club and the league.

The alternative being to save Chingford, move Bedford Athletic back to the Midlands and then go ahead with the row anyway doesn't seem to favour anybody (except perhaps Chingford!)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 16:49
It may depend on when Bees informed HQ.
If they told them before June 1, subject to ratification at the AGM then we may be on for wholesale restructuring.
If they did not officially inform then until today, then we are one short at level 5 and others go ahead as is .

However, reprieving Chingford does not resolve the problem with South West being short of teams.



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Real shame for all at Bees, we at Sandbach certainly enjoyed our games against you, good luck to all supporters/members and we hope to see you work up the leagues and build your junior section. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dagfish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 18:33
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

It may depend on when Bees informed HQ.
If they told them before June 1, subject to ratification at the AGM then we may be on for wholesale restructuring.
If they did not officially inform then until today, then we are one short at level 5 and others go ahead as is .
An RFU official informed the meeting last night that the decision hed to be made and communicated "within the hour". Whether that happened or not, I don't know, but the implication is that it was possible at that stage.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sidelined Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 20:24
In light of the problems at Yorkshire Carnegie in the Championship, I would have thought that the RFU's easiest option would be to leave Southwest with 13 teams and then restructure from the championship down at the end of the season. 
That, to me, would be the sensible option. But then when have the RFU gone for the easy option. 
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Originally posted by Jez Jez wrote:

The Bees statement is now available:
http://www.beesrugby.com/news/club-update-withdrawal-from-midlands-premier-leagu-2432541.html

Sad news for Bees always had a good rapport with their club. Good luck for the future. 
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