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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 13:03
See national 2 for Season 12/13 when Rugby dropped out.
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Originally posted by Insignificant Tick Insignificant Tick wrote:


Home venue for a play off is decided by most points accrued in your league versus the team in the other league at the same level.
If one league has less teams and therefore less fixtures for accruing points, how is this allowed for, if at all ?


Points won as a %age of points played for - applies to home advantage as well as relegation
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 2019 at 17:32
Still affects things - to use an extreme example

if you get 25/26 bonus points then 96%

you get 23/24 bp then 95.8%

each missed bp is worth more to the league with less teams
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 07:30
And you can still apply a bit of scientific math to that, to balance it out, you can artificially adjust the BP value so in the league that plays less if it comes down to calculating you apply a weighting i.e. BP in that league is thus worth 1.04 vs 1 vs the league with more matches. But what is the likelihood of needing to do that? (Not being familiar with the relegation / promotion points in this league)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 08:43
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

And you can still apply a bit of scientific math to that, to balance it out, you can artificially adjust the BP value so in the league that plays less if it comes down to calculating you apply a weighting i.e. BP in that league is thus worth 1.04 vs 1 vs the league with more matches. But what is the likelihood of needing to do that? (Not being familiar with the relegation / promotion points in this league)

I always thought it was that results against the bottom team were disregarded if there was an imbalance.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:23
The fact this discussion is taking place means the RFU should clarify the situation in very clear unambiguous terms to all teams pre season start so everyone knows where they stand rather than people scrabbling around for answers in April next year
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:27
Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

The fact this discussion is taking place means the RFU should clarify the situation in very clear unambiguous terms to all teams pre season start so everyone knows where they stand rather than people scrabbling around for answers in April next year
 
The competitions committee will need a meeting called to discuss this, maybe they should all go to Brazil during the World U20s Trophy to help them focus on regional rugby in England!!
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It is in the RFU regulation in definitions

Best Playing Record

as between the Clubs at Level 4 and below:

•which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of league points (including bonus points) gained (or awarded by the appropriate Organising Committee taking into account any appeals and the result thereof) during the current Season programme ofleague matches (as reflected in the final league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of league points (including bonus points) it was possible to gain had the Club won every one of its matches against the other Clubs shown in the final league table;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of wins (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current Season programme;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of draws (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current season programme;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the higher average winning margin in its said programme of league matches to be calculated by deducting from the points scored by the Club the points scored against the Club and dividing the difference by the number of matches played by the Club (or deemed by that Club’s Organising Committee to have been played by the Club in that Competition points were awarded to the Club) in the Club’s said league programme;

•if this still does not establish the Best Playing Record then the Clubs involved shall be ranked according to the percentage number of matches won, excluding the first League match of the season. If necessary this process shall be extended to exclude the second match, third match and so on until a Best Playing Record is established.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 12:54
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

It is in the RFU regulation in definitions

Best Playing Record

as between the Clubs at Level 4 and below:

•which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of league points (including bonus points) gained (or awarded by the appropriate Organising Committee taking into account any appeals and the result thereof) during the current Season programme ofleague matches (as reflected in the final league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of league points (including bonus points) it was possible to gain had the Club won every one of its matches against the other Clubs shown in the final league table;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of wins (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current Season programme;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of draws (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current season programme;

•in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the higher average winning margin in its said programme of league matches to be calculated by deducting from the points scored by the Club the points scored against the Club and dividing the difference by the number of matches played by the Club (or deemed by that Club’s Organising Committee to have been played by the Club in that Competition points were awarded to the Club) in the Club’s said league programme;

•if this still does not establish the Best Playing Record then the Clubs involved shall be ranked according to the percentage number of matches won, excluding the first League match of the season. If necessary this process shall be extended to exclude the second match, third match and so on until a Best Playing Record is established.


Very comprehensive - so no need for any meetings (or further discussion😄)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2019 at 15:39
So pure % not adjusted for size of league 

So SWP teams disadvantaged over others 
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Midlands Premier is on RFU site
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As is Northern but not the other 2 yet
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richmids Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2019 at 08:17
The Mids fixtures are on the site but notice on some weeks some of the fixtures are missing on there
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 12:46
I see the LSE Fixtures are up on the RFU site, just SW to go!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 13:07
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

I see the LSE Fixtures are up on the RFU site, just SW to go!

They've already done it

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barum man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 2019 at 15:23
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

I see the LSE Fixtures are up on the RFU site, just SW to go!

They've already done it


Yes SW fixtures are on the swrugby site BUT still not on the England Rugby (RFU) fixtures and results and tables page (which is what I always use). All the other regions are now on. 

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The fixtures site is down and be back up 1st July it says it will be new and improved, we will see
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barum man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 20:48
Originally posted by Richmids Richmids wrote:

The fixtures site is down and be back up 1st July it says it will be new and improved, we will see
Yes it will be interesting, I noticed a few weeks ago that there is a new Stats section. 
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England RFU results, Fixtures and tables now up for the South west Premier (not that there is a lot in the results and table section Wink )
Its going to take a little getting used to navigating to other leagues in the division and also to other divisions - not worked it out yet Shocked


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RedPete Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 21:26
Originally posted by Barum man Barum man wrote:

England RFU results, Fixtures and tables now up for the South west Premier (not that there is a lot in the results and table section Wink )
Its going to take a little getting used to navigating to other leagues in the division and also to other divisions - not worked it out yet Shocked
 
A bit off topic I know, but I've had a brief look and it's not that intuitive. It appears to work a bit better with Chrome. I haven't worked out to how to get the historic results. Maybe it's been designed for the mobile browsers?
It's a bit early to say this but for an organisation with a bit of a financial situation, I'm not convinced an update was required.
 
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