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Shelford's run in looks difficult with Lydney, Clifton, Canterbury and Dings as must wins, with the Lydney / Clifton match on 28 Feb taking on a great significance. I would not want to lose Shelford from this league - it's a great local derby with 1,700 turning up to both fixtures this season and, anecdotally, 500+ for a meal at the Shelford fixture.

I'm a Cambridge supporter through and through and despite the first weekend in November fixtures against Shelford being bloodbaths (1970s), the rivalry betwen the two clubs is good for the game and the region. The two clubs have about 750 mini/youth between them and they are different types of club. Great win Cambridge but stay up Shelford (if only for the bar/gate take). If not we will have to continue our friendly rivalry with Redruth! Wink
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Originally posted by Hoffette Hoffette wrote:

Nothing to say EM, will support my club win or lose.

Well said Hoffette, Ditto

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To get back to the relatively serious point of the thread and with (hopefully!) no input from AML.....
I have seen that Stourbridge have described their last 4 matches as "must-win" and have lost all 4. Various local press declares that the team has pretty much been unchanged throughout the losing streak, so could anyone shed any light on why the team continues to be unchanged? Is the injury crisis that bad or don't the powers that be have any trust in anyone outside of that 15?

To paraphrase a well known quote, "if its broke, fix it!"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Newt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2015 at 11:38
Originally posted by SuperTed SuperTed wrote:

"if its broke, fix it!"

You can't fix something if you don't have the tools or the spare parts available.
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Which is my point NEWT, is the injury crisis that bad or is their no trust in any players (they aren't up to scratch to try and win a game)outside of the 15.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2015 at 12:50
 "with (hopefully!) no input from AML....."
 
I dont think we will be bothered by 'AML' or '149Daw' as both appear to have been suspended from the forum.


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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

 "with (hopefully!) no input from AML....."
 
I dont think we will be bothered by 'AML' or '149Daw' as both appear to have been suspended from the forum.
Rather like the old GeorgeW. Now I wonder where he went? Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Newt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 2015 at 12:59
Originally posted by SuperTed SuperTed wrote:

Which is my point NEWT, is the injury crisis that bad or is their no trust in any players (they aren't up to scratch to try and win a game)outside of the 15.
Taking rumour with a pinch of salt I'm led to believe that numbers are an issue, whether it's injuries or unavailability. Perhaps someone from Stour can answer but I'm not prepared to speculate further.
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Rather like the old GeorgeW. Now I wonder where he went? Wink


Be careful Newt, GW is ..... "All Knwoing All Seeing" Disapprove
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Originally posted by SuperTed SuperTed wrote:

Which is my point NEWT, is the injury crisis that bad or is their no trust in any players (they aren't up to scratch to try and win a game)outside of the 15.

I went to Stourbridge earlier in the season and according to the profiles in the back of the programme they started the season with a very small squad with a lot of, erhem, 'experienced' players who are close to hanging their boots up. players moving on, small squad, no second team and old players suggests no strength in depth. That's not the players fault.

(I tried to check statbunker for some info but it's clearly not right....)

can't see them being relegated this season though
 
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Newt,

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Originally posted by guest speaker guest speaker wrote:

Originally posted by SuperTed SuperTed wrote:

Which is my point NEWT, is the injury crisis that bad or is their no trust in any players (they aren't up to scratch to try and win a game)outside of the 15.


I went to Stourbridge earlier in the season and according to the profiles in the back of the programme they started the season with a very small squad with a lot of, erhem, 'experienced' players who are close to hanging their boots up. players moving on, small squad, no second team and old players suggests no strength in depth. That's not the players fault.

(I tried to check statbunker for some info but it's clearly not right....)

can't see them being relegated this season though
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this explanation sounds very similar to other clubs who simply invest in experienced players and fail to understand what it takes to have a successful rugby club! A few years later the experiences players reach their limit (Stourbridge failed at last hurdle for a number of years in a row) then they move on or are no longer good enough - where are the replacements? - has this happened elsewhere?
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Only the DOR can truly answer your collective points but these are facts (not excuses mind)

1) Injuries have indeed decimated the team this year particularly in some key positions
2) Some players have been carrying injuries or have only just come back hence the apparent unchanged line up but this explains some of the inconsistent performances.
3) Arguably we didn't replace the 4 key players we lost in the summer with equal quality
4) Some of the players are indeed 'getting on a bit' but these were the same players that only lost 2 games last year! Also age may account for more injuries and longer recovery periods

Having said the above, the players need to take a long hard look at themselves because many (not all) seem to be coasting after the realisation that early season losses had dented any hopes of promotion this year! There may be other factors, notably the lack of a permanent or consistent goal kicker, especially as last years was so poor and probably cost us promotion.

I must say many of the teams we have played might have been lacking in skills but have more than made up for that in spirit and I cannot think of one team I have seen that did not deserve to win against us, so well played all of you!
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Originally posted by Eastern man Eastern man wrote:

Originally posted by guest speaker guest speaker wrote:

Originally posted by SuperTed SuperTed wrote:

Which is my point NEWT, is the injury crisis that bad or is their no trust in any players (they aren't up to scratch to try and win a game)outside of the 15.


I went to Stourbridge earlier in the season and according to the profiles in the back of the programme they started the season with a very small squad with a lot of, erhem, 'experienced' players who are close to hanging their boots up. players moving on, small squad, no second team and old players suggests no strength in depth. That's not the players fault.

(I tried to check statbunker for some info but it's clearly not right....)

can't see them being relegated this season though
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this explanation sounds very similar to other clubs who simply invest in experienced players and fail to understand what it takes to have a successful rugby club! A few years later the experiences players reach their limit (Stourbridge failed at last hurdle for a number of years in a row) then they move on or are no longer good enough - where are the replacements? - has this happened elsewhere?


I think it has happened somewhere else.

It's a B&I Cup weekend and this could present problems for those clubs that depend on DR's to raise a team.
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Tricky ‘must win’ matches for the bottom clubs in National 2 (South) this weekend (subject to weather)

 

·         Canterbury (34 points) at home against Redruth (previously 38-15 @ Redruth)

·         Southend (32 points) hosting Chinnor (match in hand v Dorking 28 Feb) (42-21@ Chinnor)

·         Lydney (29 points) face Worthing Raiders away (match in hand v Clifton 28 Feb) (18-17@ Lydney)

·         Shelford (24 points) away at Old Elthamians (28-33 @ Shelford)

·         Dings Crusaders (20 points) away at Clifton (19-21 @ Dings)

 

Clifton are the next club on 43 points with a match in hand against Lydney on 28 Feb, immediately following their reverse fixture on 21 February.

 

All 5 are still in the frame with the bottom 3 clubs having the best chance of a win this weekend on previous history - but not on current form - Southend are tricky at home and Shelfod losing at home 24-37 last week against Clifton after a brilliant first half. But, for Canterbury’s match, how well do Redruth travel? After winning against Southend on 6 September they have only drawn against CABs at Polson on the road, albeit picking up 4 LBP!

 

Certainly trickier at the bottom rather than the top - what’s the cut off for relegation? Usually about 60 points – watch this space.

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Originally posted by Yogi Yogi wrote:

Newt,

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I didnt realise your real name was Yogi. Bet you've taken some stick about that!
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GeorgeW/Sid James,

My posting name has always been Yogi on 533 occasions.  Unlike yourself I have never been banned from this forum and rose again after about three months under another name.  I occasionally go into deep hibernation,  depending on what the weather conditions are like in Yellowstone Park!!

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Originally posted by Yogi Yogi wrote:

Yellowstone Park!!
You must be a fraud, Yogi and Boo Boo live in JellyStone LOL
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Newt, 

If that is so then I stand corrected.  It is many years since Boo-Boo and I appeared on TV, but we bears do get about a bit!!Wink
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Originally posted by Yogi Yogi wrote:

GeorgeW/Sid James,

My posting name has always been Yogi on 533 occasions.  Unlike yourself I have never been banned from this forum and rose again after about three months under another name.  I occasionally go into deep hibernation,  depending on what the weather conditions are like in Yellowstone Park!!

Good luck tomorrow v Ampthill and for the rest of the season. Boo Boo and I will be rooting for you.


We can only hope for another bout of hibernation soon.

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