National League Rugby Discussion Forums Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > League Rugby - www.leaguerugby.co.uk > The Championship
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Resumption latest
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

IMPORTANT Remember to read the rules of the board and abide by them when posting.

Resumption latest

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 45678 15>
Author
Message
Raider999 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 18 Jan 2013
Location: Crawley
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2020 at 11:45
Originally posted by Pirate Pig Pirate Pig wrote:

This is all about the greed of the premiership clubs and nothing to do with player welfare or what is best for the wider game.
If the premiership starts in August it could go on until October, November is being lined up as the international window so the new premiership season for 2020-21 will get under way in December and run until June.
If the championship resumes in September will we have the scenario that Saracens will be asked to play in both leagues? There is also the need to complete this seasons European Champions Cup and Saracens are one of the Quarter finalists.
I can't see Saracens agreeing to that sort of workload and in all honesty it shouldn't be allowed to happen.
The RFU for once need to show some leadership and finish this season now.



Interesting quotes in today's Telegraph

Leicester - need at least 8 weeks to be ready to play
Bristol - ready in 4 weeks

I suspect this has something to do with the relevant positions in the table.

Also, Bristol seem to be beefing up their squad with a number of high profile signings - interesting in light of suggestions of lowering the Salary Cap removing Marquee Player concessions.

I suspect they will use the 'we can't break contracts' excuse to be able to be over any new restrictions.
RAID ON
Back to Top
CJB1 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar
Moseley

Joined: 25 May 2007
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 1421
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CJB1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2020 at 13:40
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Interesting interview with Lord Jeffrey Archer on TalkSport, summarised at the end by saying both cricket and rugby will really have to reevaluate their sports as neither are cash rich compared to football below the top level.

Hmm, I know Lord Archole attends Cambridge matches so must be a supporter of some kind, but what deeper insight might he have that the common man doesn't?
"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
Back to Top
Cannon View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Location: 20m behind play
Status: Offline
Points: 1474
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2020 at 13:44
Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Interesting interview with Lord Jeffrey Archer on TalkSport, summarised at the end by saying both cricket and rugby will really have to reevaluate their sports as neither are cash rich compared to football below the top level.

Hmm, I know Lord Archole attends Cambridge matches so must be a supporter of some kind, but what deeper insight might he have that the common man doesn't?
Sorry I wasn't implying he knew more than the man on the Clapham Omnibus, just an observant view that community sports clubs will most probably changed post COVID. Articulating the same as we are all saying.
Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!!
Back to Top
Camquin View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Location: Cambridge
Status: Offline
Points: 7195
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2020 at 14:25
Currently he is just another supporter. He tends to dine before matches rather than slumming it downstairs grabbing a burger.

He has been known to slip his hand in his back pocket to help his club out, and he may have a different idea as to what affordable spare change is to you or me. 
Blood and Sand
Back to Top
Kimbo View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 31 May 2007
Location: 'incleh
Status: Offline
Points: 4162
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2020 at 16:41
Slightly off-beam here, but slightly relevant (and obvs no need to click if it doesn't float your boat).
Rowland Winter has had a fairly in-depth interview published (in three parts), and I reckon supporters of several Championship clubs might find it worth a view just to see what he says about their clubs.
Part Three is probably the most pertinent - here: https://www.facebook.com/CoventryRugbyOfficial/videos/659114911610667/
Our City,
Our Club
Back to Top
No 7 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar

Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Location: LONDON
Status: Offline
Points: 1356
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 19:44
Interesting set of interviews and a real insight to Championship rugby. I never knew that certain clubs start at 7 am and finish at 12 pm / lunchtime. Rowland talks about allowing squad members to study a pursue other revenues of income.
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
Back to Top
islander View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 17 Mar 2010
Location: jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 4982
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 21:25
Saturday's Times talked about how some of the most 'high-contact' aspects of rugby union such as scrums and mauls might be temporarily dispensed with in some countries if this meant a shorter delay to resuming the game. After many people threw up their hands in horror at the suggestion that some grass-roots players might play touch in order to keep in shape ("over my dead body") I don't imagine that going down well...
Back to Top
Raider999 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 18 Jan 2013
Location: Crawley
Status: Offline
Points: 3150
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 10:28
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Saturday's Times talked about how some of the most 'high-contact' aspects of rugby union such as scrums and mauls might be temporarily dispensed with in some countries if this meant a shorter delay to resuming the game. After many people threw up their hands in horror at the suggestion that some grass-roots players might play touch in order to keep in shape ("over my dead body") I don't imagine that going down well...<div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension">


I think most people would support a free kick instead of a reset scrum as was suggested in today's Telegraph article.

I would explicitly ban the option of taking a scrum rather than the free kick in this case.

Any other tinkering to the rules is unacceptable in my humble opinion

Edited by Raider999 - 26 May 2020 at 10:29
RAID ON
Back to Top
marigold View Drop Down
British and Irish Lion
British and Irish Lion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2019
Location: Eltham
Status: Offline
Points: 213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 10:41
Article in Times today suggests some more detailed adjustments to the game. The key here is these adjustments would be temporary to accommodate current situation. Surely it is better to have some version of 15-a-side rugby so community clubs/players can get back playing rather than put our heads in the sand and have no rugby. How would any community club afford the current requirements for returning to train and then play? If players had to for one season work on improving their handling/passing/offloading/low tackling as this was more prevalent then i do not see the problem. Props are not going to forget how to prop!
Back to Top
Thatbloke View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 02 Sep 2017
Location: Newport
Status: Offline
Points: 823
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 11:42
But with much fewer/maybe NO scrums traditional props won't even get picked. Think rugby league where scrum halves transition quite easily to hooker and vice versa - applies equally to other positions centres to loose forward etc etc. In other words get your 15 best athletes on the pitch - forget the old premise that at least rugby union was always a game for all shapes and sizes and one of its greatest attractions
On another note the public will not be allowed to attend matches but yet they can climb all over each other on Southend, Whitley Bay, Brighton and many other beaches whilst me and my wife can't mix with our kids and grandkids?



Edited by Thatbloke - 26 May 2020 at 11:44
Back to Top
TAS63 View Drop Down
First XV regular
First XV regular


Joined: 13 Apr 2009
Location: Bourne
Status: Offline
Points: 148
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TAS63 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 15:00
Thanks for the link to the video with Rowland Winter Kimbo ...... just watched Part 3. 
He comes over really well. Very frank, honest and open.
I'm going to go back and listen to Parts 1 and 2 next, even if they are more Coventry orientated ;-)
Cheers
Back to Top
Richmids View Drop Down
First XV regular
First XV regular


Joined: 18 Jun 2019
Location: Tamworth
Status: Offline
Points: 62
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richmids Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 15:47
Just come up on BBC website, looks like scrums might be ok but they will need to get backside in gear when they reset.... well been asking them.do that for bit now

Back to Top
dropout22 View Drop Down
British and Irish Lion
British and Irish Lion


Joined: 03 Jul 2017
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 219
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dropout22 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 15:55
Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Interesting set of interviews and a real insight to Championship rugby. I never knew that certain clubs start at 7 am and finish at 12 pm / lunchtime. Rowland talks about allowing squad members to study a pursue other revenues of income.
Yes, Scottish used this system in the last two seasons. However from what I noticed, it's a little hard to police as session can over run etc, if managed properly it is a very good option for clubs to use however.

Edited by dropout22 - 26 May 2020 at 15:57
Back to Top
gerg_861 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2017
Location: Ealing
Status: Offline
Points: 956
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2020 at 23:06
Ben Ward did a video today to set out the current state of affairs re resump tion for Ealing. Precis is that there is an expectation of preseason proper getting underway soon, with signings and departure announcements imminent. Apparwntly still several scenarios for restart being looked at. https://youtu.be/BqqA2Z8LVfc
Back to Top
islander View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 17 Mar 2010
Location: jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 4982
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2020 at 21:12
As a couple of other clubs have posted DoR interviews, see below for a link to one that Harvey Biljon did with local ITV a few days ago...

Back to Top
gerg_861 View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner
Avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2017
Location: Ealing
Status: Offline
Points: 956
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 23:19
Apparently, Premiership Rugby has set a re-start date of August 15th, with a goal of getting the playoff final sorted by mid November. The intention then would be to start the new season in January. Given Sarries need to be relegated, that implies no start for the Championship until January either. All of that is per the Guardian earlier today.

Given that premiership teams will be playing the end of the campaign with different players than the start of the season, I can't imagine a more bizarre season.
Back to Top
Bigmal View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 17 Nov 2013
Location: BRISTOL
Status: Offline
Points: 1407
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bigmal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 11:25
Especially with the added complication of Euro and Int fixtures.

At least the Prem has a plan.
Back to Top
God Bless The Apple View Drop Down
Academy player
Academy player
Avatar

Joined: 18 Jun 2018
Location: South West
Status: Offline
Points: 12
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote God Bless The Apple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 15:43
I heard from someone connected with the running of a Champ club that potentially end of the year is a restart aim as most clubs are against playing matches behind closed doors due to the loss of ticketing revenue.

The cost of playing matches with no spectators means clubs would lose money when factoring in all the associated costs that would incur. 

Heard Steve Diamond on the radio slapping the back of Sale's financial backer, saying without the owners putting their hands in the pockets to cover the increased costs to the clubs to cover the new health and safety procedures that need to be in place to protect players, the Prem wouldn't be able to start potentially recommence in August.


When you're tired... rest. Never quit.
Back to Top
marigold View Drop Down
British and Irish Lion
British and Irish Lion
Avatar

Joined: 09 Apr 2019
Location: Eltham
Status: Offline
Points: 213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 17:20
Cannot see any Championship matches being played with no crowd. They get no money from TV so without ticket revenue, bar takings and pre match lunches how will those  who remain full time clubs be able to pay wages? Even those with part time players would struggle.
Back to Top
WEvans View Drop Down
World Cup Winner
World Cup Winner


Joined: 08 Dec 2016
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 437
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2020 at 12:45
Originally posted by Bigmal Bigmal wrote:

Especially with the added complication of Euro and Int fixtures.

At least the Prem has a plan.

Is it a cunning plan?
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 45678 15>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.