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    Posted: 26 May 2009 at 13:21
From RFU web site:

Midlands leagues re-structuring
by Paul Bolton

MIDLANDS One will be renamed National Three Midlands for the 2009/10 season as part of league restructuring.

The change in title follows the introduction of a 12-club Championship to replace the current 16-team National One.

The current National Two and National Three North and South will be renamed National One and Two with the top four regional leagues - including Midlands One - becoming National Three competitions.

The new National Three Midlands will have a bonus points system for the first time, in line with the other National Leagues, and the division has been increased from 12 to 14 clubs.

Sheffield Tigers will play in National Three Midlands next season having been transferred from North One to balance the numbers. Sheffield Tigers will replace Chester who have been level transferred back into the new National Three North after a season in Midlands One.

The other level transfer in the Midlands is in the new Midlands Two West (North) where Derbyshire Ashbourne have moved across from Midlands Two East (North).

Leagues at level six - the renamed Midlands One West and Midlands One East - have also been increased from 12 to 14 club divisions, but leagues at levels seven and eight (Midlands Two and Midlands Three in the new structure) remain at 12 clubs.

There will be smaller leagues at levels nine and ten, the bottom two tiers of the league structure, as a result of the need to promote more clubs higher up the league pyramid.

As a consequence Midlands Four and Five East (South) will be combined and will operate on a conference system involving 14 clubs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2009 at 18:18
So we now have a 'National' leaue that is limited in scope to the Midlands.
You couldn't make it up.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2009 at 18:41
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

So we now have a 'National' leaue that is limited in scope to the Midlands.
You couldn't make it up.....


Not quite I would assume that there will also be a National League North, National League South and maybe National League South West.

It is worth noting that there is a North 1, Midlands 1, London 1 etc.
If Winning isn't important, why do they keep the score.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 08:10
London 1 becomes National 3 London http://www.rfulondon.com/London_2009_Sheet%201_WEB.htm
South West 1 becomes National 3 South West http://www.swrugby.co.uk/swcont.pdf (page 6)
North 1 becomes National 3 North
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 09:37
Catchy names
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 12:15
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

So we now have a 'National' leaue that is limited in scope to the Midlands.
You couldn't make it up.....


Mmm...that's like having a National League that covers only the North or South of the Country, you couldn't make this up either.... hang about that is what we've had for years isn't it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 13:17

Loosehead, you're so well informed....

Thanks for all your help.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 13:19
Irony eh?
 
Keep going Kimbo, someone will get it Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 13:50
Originally posted by Nottmrugbymad Nottmrugbymad wrote:

Catchy names
 
How about:
 
Mercia (Midlands)
Wessex (SW)
Northumbria (N)
Saxons (London)
 
Pig
 
as Regional Leagues


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 14:43
any word on how the officials are to be used in this new National tier?
 
are there to be official T/Js to assist the refs?
 
 this is recognised as the most difficult level of the game for referees, as there are good players, who will push the space etc if there are no "live" T/Js.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 14:52
I agree, if we now have a bonus points system, which we were told earlier in the year would not be implemented on level 5, then we should also have official Touch Judges and while we're at it, all matches recorded on video, as this was the requirement for National Leagues previously.

We can't have the implementation all half-cocked, there have to be National Standards to be regarded as National Leagues.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 17:31
there may be a spanner in the works on this one! ...............................
 
who`s going to pay for it all?
 
i would estimate each home game costing aprox. £200 match fees plus travel expenses, which would be £3000 for the season based on 15 home games, plus 40p per mile for all 3 officials every week!!
 
how many level 5 Clubs can afford this?
 
I know that there are several level 4/3 Clubs who are stretched to afford it, and with less money from HQ, where will it all come from??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 17:54
from a cost perspective it make a lot of sense as I would not like to be footing the bill for Aspatria away for most teams south of the Midlands
If Winning isn't important, why do they keep the score.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 18:24
Aspatria seem to be 2-300 miles round trip for each match. They will probably pick up subsidy as I believe Jersey do.
 
Interesting that Carlisle - same level and 19 miles away - are in a different league....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 2009 at 22:48
Nice to see North Ribblesdale (now Yorkshire 2) still in there, the only place I honestly thought I was going to die.

When we (Adwick-le-Street) played up there once (up the A1, turn left at Scotch Corner and keep going a bit, our fixture secretary said) they were shovelling about two foot of snow off the line markings. It's alright they said, the snow has protected the ground, it's not frozen. The game went ahead and after about twenty minutes it had got to the stage of risking drowning in the rucks or get exposure out of them. I'm sure it took me a week to warm up again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2009 at 17:59
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You said: -

"When we (Adwick-le-Street) played up there once (up the A1, turn left at Scotch Corner and keep going a bit, our fixture secretary said)".

You must have gone to the wrong ground. North Ribblesdale play at Settle which is just off the A65 from Leeds to the Lakes!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 2009 at 19:18
Our fixture secretary didn't drive (or have a clue about geography [or topography]). He got us lost on many occasions, we came home from that game about an hour quicker than it took us to get there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2009 at 16:07
No change, in essence, to the games that are being played and, afaik, there are no plans to expand the number of National Panel referees or TJ's, so it will be down to the Group level referees to carry on pretty much as they have for the last few years with club AR's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jun 2009 at 10:48
Originally posted by Wireless Wireless wrote:

I agree, if we now have a bonus points system, which we were told earlier in the year would not be implemented on level 5, then we should also have official Touch Judges and while we're at it, all matches recorded on video, as this was the requirement for National Leagues previously.

We can't have the implementation all half-cocked, there have to be National Standards to be regarded as National Leagues.

 

From what I can see that is exactly what has been done gone off half-cocked……

 

Here in the South West the ‘First Eleven Sports Agency’ is appointed by the ‘Rugby Football Union’ to administer the competition in the South West and includes over 390 teams, as they state in (http://www.swrugby.co.uk/newsletters/Newsletter%20Dec%202008.pdf) Level 5 - SW1 (which will be renamed National 3 South West) will increase from 12 to 14 clubs. Despite the new name, it will remain part of the South West.  Therefore they are in control of the way the league is run and as the new league (in name only) is firmly planted in the regional pot; I guess that the directives regarding ‘Touch Judges’, ‘Video’s’ and the like come under their jurisdiction albeit I guess the ‘RFU’ can and do lay down the guidelines as to what will happen ie: the addition of ‘Bonus Points’ to the scoring.

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