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    Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 17:23
Rugby Football Union drafts plan to risk-assess some transgender women players

Quote "The RFU has considered alternatives as part of its review, including both more and less restrictive measures, but having considered such alternatives, believes the criteria proposed in the policy are the most appropriate for domestic rugby union in England at this time."

Measures included in the draft policy include:

  • Transgender women players over 90kg (14st 2lb) or taller than 170cm (5ft 7in) may be assessed by an RFU coach or staff in a training environment to check if they have "a material performance advantage" or pose "a safety risk to other participants which is above the level presented by cis women players [players whose gender matches their assigned sex at birth]". The weight and height thresholds are based on "90% of cisgender women in the UK being below those measurements".
  • Transgender women will also be asked to provide details on their previous sporting background.
  • Transgender male players will be asked to sign a declaration that they understand the risks of playing men's or boys' contact rugby.
  • Non-binary players may participate in the gender category they feel most comfortable with, but must meet the same conditions as transgender players if that is different from their assigned sex at birth.
The RFU is inviting consultation on the proposed changes, and says it will "continue to monitor relevant new research and data" into the issue.
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Why does all this effort go into mega-minority groups so that boxes can be ticked. World's gone mad! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve@Mose Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 20:20
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Why does all this effort go into mega-minority groups so that boxes can be ticked. World's gone mad! 

I believe the RFU are acting to pre-empt any legal action that someone somewhere may be willing/preparing to take.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 2021 at 20:31
I repeat - the World's gone mad! 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr 2021 at 11:28
I just look at the likes of Fallon Fox in MMA and that solidifies my opinion on this issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fat Albert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Apr 2021 at 18:31
Antoinette Harris, the first female outfield (Free Safety = defensive back) player ever to receive a full ride scholarship to an NAIA affiliated college. There have been several female kickers.


As the only female outfield player Toni Harris played High School (U19) football against boys, there's video of her taking down players twice her weight. Offered a scholarship in 2019, I can find no record of her playing any games at NAIA level during 2020. 

There are no concessions in high school/college football, females play against males on merit.




Edited by Fat Albert - 02 Apr 2021 at 18:32
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Apr 2021 at 14:10
hope this was posted a day earlier .Absolutely a load  or cut off Bullocks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 20:02
Originally posted by Fat Albert Fat Albert wrote:

Antoinette Harris, the first female outfield (Free Safety = defensive back) player ever to receive a full ride scholarship to an NAIA affiliated college. There have been several female kickers.


As the only female outfield player Toni Harris played High School (U19) football against boys, there's video of her taking down players twice her weight. Offered a scholarship in 2019, I can find no record of her playing any games at NAIA level during 2020. 

There are no concessions in high school/college football, females play against males on merit.



If you read the sugggestions they are saying if a born female player wants to change sex and play male rugby then no worries they do so at their own risk.

But if your 20yo 100kg 6' 2" no8 who played county colts decides to change sex they should not be allowed to play female rugby without a risk assesment first which is surely more sensible and less open to challenge than either an outright ban or acceptance
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote billesleyexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 13:56
Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Why does all this effort go into mega-minority groups so that boxes can be ticked. World's gone mad! 

Insurance.

And you can't just tell someone they can't play without a reason, which needs to be testable up to court so you're covered. 

Basically, any organisation which doesn't have a policy for this, even if it only affects 2 people in a decade, is riding a dangerous horse. 

Even the freemasons have worked out and published a policy on how to deal with transgender issues. Why? Because like the RFU they don't want to just sit there and wait to get bitten.
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