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    Posted: 21 Mar 2014 at 14:47
Not everyone explores the clubhouse section so in case you've missed discussing the many shortfalls of the forthcoming potentially massive shakeup to the league structure that have been going on in the Adult Competition Review thread, I've decided to be a bit more proactive both in examining the details and campaigning against it.

Please check out http://saverugbyblog.wordpress.com/ and read the articles I've put there so far:

Will Most English Rugby Clubs Be Relegated Next Season?

RFU to Slash Promotion by 28%

More time to #SaveRugby?

and help spread the word at your clubs tomorrow or via Twitter (@SaveRugby / #SaveRugby)!!!

The changes possibly hit Lv4 hardest, and whilst there are some elements which may benefit some clubs there are elements which are entirely against the interests and wishes of most clubs and players... and the RFU know it too.

Bend the ear of your council rep before it's too late.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2014 at 23:00
Originally posted by Top of the Hill Top of the Hill wrote:

Not everyone explores the clubhouse section so in case you've missed discussing the many shortfalls of the
forthcoming potentially massive shakeup to the league structure that
have been going on in the Adult Competition Review thread, I've decided to be a bit more proactive both in examining the details and campaigning against it.

Please check out http://saverugbyblog.wordpress.com/ and read the articles I've put there so far:

<h1 ="entry-title">Will Most English Rugby Clubs Be Relegated Next Season?</h1><h1 ="entry-title">RFU to Slash Promotion by 28%</h1><h1 ="entry-title">More time to #SaveRugby?</h1>

and help spread the word at your clubs tomorrow or via Twitter (@SaveRugby / #SaveRugby)!!!

The changes possibly hit Lv4 hardest, and whilst there are some elements which may benefit some clubs there are elements which are entirely against the interests and wishes of most clubs and players... and the RFU know it too.

Bend the ear of your council rep before it's too late.


Get behind Save Rugby to save this competition and the competitive nature at Level 4.

Today I visited Luctonians. They had over 200 for a prematch lunch and what was the topic of discussion.

Simon Green a Price was in no mood to mince his words (nothing unusual there) but being serious a Community a Rugby Club are concerned that having fought their way through the Leagues by hard worth and aspiration they are now in a competitive league at Level 4.

They are enjoying the competition and the travel to clubs from Bees to DMP and Stour to Preston!

They want 30 Games a season to keep them sharp and speaking to AD his thoughts on player burn out are different to MN of Fylde.

AD is a Player Coach and therefore has a view from both sides of the argument put forward by MN.

Many of the dinner guests were of the opinion that even in deepest Herefordshire where there is competition from Leominster, Hereford and on top of that football all competing for their sponsorship they would put their money into a Club that is in a competitive league and if the landscape changes they would have to reconsider where they put their funds.

So what does this mean to Lucts?

The RFU removed conditional funding some time ago and told the clubs to stand on their own two feet.

In other words Rugby Clubs had to become businesses to run their rugby and without a decent squad (requires funding) they have no business.

What the RFU are about to do is to remove one part of this equation and the result will be Clubs finding it difficult to honour their banking arrangements as the sponsorship slips away.

A club like Lucts have ploughed money into improving their facilities by adding floodlights, a Stand and improved their pitches!

So much for the general criticism that money earned goes into players pockets and not sustainability.

Come on Rugby Family rise up against such injustice and save rugby at this level that is being sacrificed on the altar of the lower leagues who do have trouble with the costs of running their Clubs.

But why should Level 4 be sacrificed when they are sustainable to travel to matches at what levels 5 and below find difficult to comprehend.

Simples! Competition, Rugby and Friendships.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2014 at 10:35
I have followed the Adult Competition Review progress as an interested observer over the last two years and from my own personal perspective I would like to retain the level 4 league structure as it is.  I cannot agree with any league structure in which you don't gain automatic promotion for winning the league...it is such a disincentive.  Also, going to the four league regional structure that is proposed will reduce the competitive nature of the leagues at level 4 and lower the overall standard.  The current structure is fine.... you only have to look at the season long battle for the top spot in Nat2N to see it has generated some exciting competition.

I confess that I never played the game at a high level so I don't feel qualified to speak against the players' welfare arguments being used, but it seems that the response given by the majority of NCA clubs at Burton have been ignored and these views had player input.  If I'm being cynical, it appears to me that a hidden agenda existed and the facts have been reported to support it without really reflecting the true feedback given by NCA clubs at both level 3 and 4.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2014 at 23:16
Burton was equivocal in its rejection of the Straw Man and it was confirmed on the Monday morning by both John Douglas and Steve Grainger with the comment " we hear you loud and clear and it is off the Table".

Wharton Consulting then started to chip away at the meeting and the discussion then looked at Player Burn Out (Not from many) and Travel.

To be perfectly honest the meeting was a little chaotic at this stage as they started to go for divide and rule tactics.

I think what the Clubs have to do is to come up with some credible counter proposal and not spend the time being critical.

I am pleased that Save Rugby are on a crusade and helping to find Clubs who want to assist.

Keep it up!

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