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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bambros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 2017 at 09:36
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The KO time was agreed pre-season with OA`s and the NCA for train times and certainly not arrogance.
It did howeever change at about 1.00pm yesterday when Blaydon found themselves and their train stationary between Donnie and P`bro for 2.5 hours yesterday only arriving at Oa`s at 2.15pm.
Not  a good start to and important match.Blaydon did re-route their connecting bus to meet them at P`bro instead of Stevenage
OA`s did as a gesture agree to a 3.00pm  ko.
As most clubs would have done in the circumstances.
The rest is history.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2017 at 19:28
Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

Originally posted by RedOrDead RedOrDead wrote:

Originally posted by Fake_Shemp Fake_Shemp wrote:

I stand corrected on the try bonus points and HIA protocol. What was puzzling about what happened was the referee saw fit to blow his whistle and call a halt to proceedings because of the way the player went down and looked after attempting a tackle but, even though he was supported when sitting down, thought he was okay to continue without seeking a second opinion. 

In any case, the referee was much closer to events than I was, so undoubtedly is best placed to assess the player and decide whether he is fit to play.

Assuming there was one in attendance, it seems strange that a referee wouldn't consult a doctor in that situation. Having just looked at the HEADCASE document on the RFU website, it seems that the referee got this one wrong. Once a potential head injury occurs, the flowchart says that the player must be assessed by a doctor if present, failing that a medical practitioner and only in the last instance by the referee.

As I say, these situations are often complicated needlessly by people failing to notice or report clear evidence of players having lost consciousness, which cuts out the need for any more decision making - the player must be removed and must not play again until return to play protocols have been followed. 
Hull's hooker had earlier been carried from the field on a spinal board, so it's possible the doctor had gone with him and was not in attendance, or was otherwise engaged, at the time.


Why would the Hull I's scrum half need a HIA when he injured his knee? There was no blow to the head but his knee has blown up like a balloon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fake_Shemp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2017 at 19:42
Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Why would the Hull I's scrum half need a HIA when he injured his knee? There was no blow to the head but his knee has blown up like a balloon.
I was watching the play and saw him take an awkward angle when tackling one of Mowden's players (Uzokwe?) and thought he had taken a bang to the head – that is usually when referees blow so quickly – something which his body language also seem to indicate, but it must have been the case that he was in pain and not discombobulated.
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Our medical staff take our players safety very seriously. If there has been any doubt about a bang to the head players come off. He didn't as Sid said. I resent the insinuation our medical or coaching staff did anything untoward. Player welfare comes first.
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He looked more wobbly at the players presentation dinner on Sunday night. I wonder why !!Beer
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fake_Shemp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2017 at 10:21
Originally posted by hit'em'ard hit'em'ard wrote:

Our medical staff take our players safety very seriously. If there has been any doubt about a bang to the head players come off. He didn't as Sid said. I resent the insinuation our medical or coaching staff did anything untoward. Player welfare comes first.
As I said at the time, I didn't see any consultation with the medical staff and the referee made the decision by himself. The player was facing away from me, so I only saw some strange movement from behind which, as I said yesterday, was as likely to do with being in pain than anything else. I didn't insinuate there was anything untoward by the medical or coaching staff, but if that came across at some point, I apologise.

To put it simply, I thought the tackle and quick decision to call a halt to play was because of a head injury, not one to his knee. Now I know otherwise, everything which took place on the field at the time makes complete sense. This shows the benefit of interacting with people after the game who were either there or were in contact with those involved, so any misunderstandings are cleared up.
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