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    Posted: 22 Apr 2019 at 18:17
Is anyone aware of supporters seating / stands that still have corrugated asbestos sheeting as the roofing material. Many of these stands pre date 1986 and have the asbestos sheeting that after time and exposure to the elements start to deteriorate and break down. Everytime the ball smashes down on the roof fibres are released, showering the supporters with hazardous material.

The cost or removal and reinstatement for larger stands is astounding. The process of removal is very involved with full face masks and disposable overalls and decontamination facilities for the removal operatives. 

The material is removed under controlled conditions and taken to designated waste dumps and burried below ground.

The effects of asbestos fibres being taken into the lungs is horrific and a particularly nasty disease. All clubs should have an asbestos register ( by law ) and any asbestos identified.

The main concern should be the safety of the unsuspecting supporters who sit in these stands every second week year after year.
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Most sheeting is often found highly discoloured from moisture, weathering and / or damaged, and will easily release their fibre dust particles into the surrounding atmosphere when disturbed. Despite being once considered as “low risk”, white asbestos is today classified as a Class 1 cancer-causing agent. It is always strongly recommended that an authorised and licensed asbestos specialist be contacted via the local authority whenever asbestos is suspected of being present.




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Are their any grounds you have particular concern over No 7?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 12:16
There can’t be many - only 12 clubs in NL1 - several recent builds, and quite a few without riooves.

Besides - shock horror - rugby clubs have to obey safety regulations? No pawpaw Sherlock!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Apr 2019 at 08:32
Didn't Roslyn Park have that style of roof on the long narrow stand up the one side of the pitch?





Edited by castleparknight - 24 Apr 2019 at 08:32
Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 10:12
There are grounds in the Championship that appear to have corrugated sheeting that going by the age of the seated stands would possibly be asbestos material.

You would hope that the owners of the grounds have carried out due dilligence for the sake of their loyal supporters.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Fat Albert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 10:32
Thanks for offering a suitably sarky response to those few in the Championship who appear to be concerned that standing in the rain at Ampthill is beneath them... Thumbs Up

Edited by Fat Albert - 09 May 2019 at 10:33
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Westcoaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2019 at 22:38
Uncalled for scaremongering.
An asbestos covered roof or element of a building is not an issue unless work is being undertaken to it or it is being removed or its under imminent threat of damage. A diligent club will be well aware of what its buildings are made of and of its responsibilities under the law prior to any construction works and I'm not sure what the OP's point really is .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2019 at 08:57
I do not want to scare anyone that is not my intention. When asbestos is managed and made safe ,basically not exposed or touched,broken. It is relatively safe. When the roofing material that covers older stands is subjected to the elements,it breaks down and the fibres are released. When a rugby ball crashes down from a great height,again fibrrs are released.

I have been made aware of how vulnerable people are to these fibres having lost a work colleague who never worked with asbestos and only ever surveyed plant rooms.

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I worked in the asbestos industry for forty years!! you are quite right Asbestos fibres are class A1 carcinogens, and as you state are not considered a hazard unless they are disturbed, there are a lot of products that contain asbestos and unexpected exposure such as that of your colleague is a problem that the HSE are constantly trying to minimise.
  
An asbestos cement roof is slightly different however since a) Asbestos Cement doesn't contain a great deal of asbestos (up to 15%) nor does it release fibres very easily, which reduces it's exposure risk b) it is not easily accessible so again the exposure risk is greatly reduced. c)  If fibres are released when a rugby ball lands on an AC roof they are so light they disperse into the atmosphere and are not considered to be a major hazard. 

The biggest concern the HSE have regarding AC roofs is that they are fragile and falling through them is a greater danger than the asbestos they contain.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Blues Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2019 at 12:58
No 7's concern was only made after I posted a twitter link regarding the Ealing pitch and again this topic has been revitalised when I posted about players want the halt of 3G pitch installation.
 
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Originally posted by DGS Old Boy DGS Old Boy wrote:

I worked in the asbestos industry for forty years!! you are quite right Asbestos fibres are class A1 carcinogens, and as you state are not considered a hazard unless they are disturbed, there are a lot of products that contain asbestos and unexpected exposure such as that of your colleague is a problem that the HSE are constantly trying to minimise.
  
An asbestos cement roof is slightly different however since a) Asbestos Cement doesn't contain a great deal of asbestos (up to 15%) nor does it release fibres very easily, which reduces it's exposure risk b) it is not easily accessible so again the exposure risk is greatly reduced. c)  If fibres are released when a rugby ball lands on an AC roof they are so light they disperse into the atmosphere and are not considered to be a major hazard. 

The biggest concern the HSE have regarding AC roofs is that they are fragile and falling through them is a greater danger than the asbestos they contain.

Asbestos cement roof on a garage  as opposed to a old  stand with hundreds of people sitting directly below whilst occasionally rugby balls batter the roof are two very different things. I agree the risk is low but the consequence is life threatening. The paying public should at least be warned of the danger and allowed to decide if they want to sit directly below the asbestos roof.

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THE HEALTH RISK OF ASBESTOS CEMENT ROOF SHEETS

In order to make the public more aware of the health risks of asbestos, the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) had launched a ‘Beware Asbestos’ campaign some years back.

The reality is that asbestos exposure is often fatal. Asbestos products including cement roof sheets are a great health risk. Thousands of people die every year after being exposed to the material. As a result, the product is now banned in the UK.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote No 7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2019 at 13:20
Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

No 7's concern was only made after I posted a twitter link regarding the Ealing pitch and again this topic has been revitalised when I posted about players want the halt of 3G pitch installation.
 

I prefer grass pitches to 3G. The teams I coach train and play on 3G. There are some horrendous grazes , knees and elbows but I am not aware of any player ever leaving the pitch for grazes. Safety of players is paramount .

The removal of asbestos should be a priority for the safety of the paying public and loyal fans in my opinion.
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