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    Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 13:30
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stalwart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 14:13
Good on them - it still leaves a bit of a nasty taste that Hartpury have effectively brought in a new team to keep them up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OldNick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 14:53
Excellent statement from Richmond - but apart from in the headline I see no sign of a new direction.
Well done to them for sticking to their principles, and a business model that works for them.
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Brilliant statement - real quality.
Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Just what I would expect from a true rugby club. Well done Mond!!👏👏👏
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Richmond  a Real Rugby Club. Hartpury???????
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Hartpury a commercial composite put together at a cost of £10m in facilities by a former agricultural college in order to change its profile, and supported by three Premiership business in order to devalue promotion and relegation.
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Sorry am I missing something its basically we will carry on as usual  which I totally support and agree with, they have a great ethos obviously some of their team earn rather a lot more than the normal Championship player but working in the City you would expect that so good luck and hopefully see them back in the Championship next year
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Well written statement,  that .
Richmond, a proper rugby club and one which I suspect will still be here long after Hartpury's recruitment methods this season have been outlawed. Imo, the wrong team has been relegated 
Come on Jersey........
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Impressive that a semi pro team has sustained Championship rugby for three years or a clear comment on the true standard of the “Professional” Championship?

The 13th club always returns at first time of asking, a semi pro club can compete and an academy club is bolstered to keep academy players getting level 2 rugby.

Minimal entry criteria begs the question how professional is the Championship overall?

Given the budget cuts of £6m that will affect/reduce opportunity for remaining 1226 community clubs outside of levels 1&2, perhaps the fairer outcome was to finally put the Championship 11 out of their misery and save £6m that is clearly never going to make it a viable professional league and stop heaping further misery on the rest of the club game.
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In the nicest possible way Richmond didn’t really “compete” more like they survived a couple of seasons being at the bottom of the table and caused a few upsets.

Hartpury were more than bolstered by academy players, Vellacott, Tovey, Ludlow, Judy to name a few have all played many times in the Premiership of top end of the Championship for years.

What needs to happen I’d thst the Championship needs a salary cap, I have heard some 13th club needing to reduce their budget for re-entry to the Premiership. That can’t be right!

What the Championship does is provide S decent environment for academy players to develop, many of the England team have played Championship rugby. Cut the standard will reduce their development.
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The Blues QUOTE:In the nicest possible way Richmond didn’t really “compete” 

So `nice` of you to say that !. 


Edited by No 7 - 23 Apr 2019 at 23:44
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Very very sorry to see Richmond go as I was hoping that they would prove that you could survive as a semi-pro unit. They did not have the ability to compete in the same way that Hartpury have & although it is within the rules it just doesn't seem right to me. 
 I for one, if in London when Richmond are playing at home in National 1, will be there to support them.
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It is not just Hartpury - YC burnt a lot of money to survive that they will not have next year.


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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

In the nicest possible way Richmond didn’t really “compete” more like they survived a couple of seasons being at the bottom of the table and caused a few upsets.

Ninth last season and thirty two points clear of relegation suggests they did a bit more than survive at the bottom of the table although I agree that like most they didn't compete for promotion. 
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Originally posted by 2CP47 2CP47 wrote:

Very very sorry to see Richmond go as I was hoping that they would prove that you could survive as a semi-pro unit. They did not have the ability to compete in the same way that Hartpury have & although it is within the rules it just doesn't seem right to me. 
 I for one, if in London when Richmond are playing at home in National 1, will be there to support them.

I wanted them to stay up for the same reason, if only to give us hope at Mose, but I just don't think you can anymore. We managed a decade in the second tier on a hand to mouth semi-pro basis and every year (with the odd exception) was a struggle, or felt like one. Then in 15-16 we just ran out of road - ironically just when we were on the cusp of going fully pro IIRC. Even in our decade of great escapes and last gasp heroics you could (IMO) feel the rest of the league moving away from us. How easy it is to rue screwing up the golden moment for catching the boat when the game went pro. Mind, trying to keep up almost broke us.

Never mind the signing shenanigans at other "clubs", I just don't think the championship is any place for teams at the more amateur end of semi-pro to thrive. The more professional end of semi-pro (Bedford?), possibly, but I wonder whether it's just that they got good momentum behind them early on? Mind you, I thought we had until the wheels fell off* so perhaps no one's safe. 

2013-14 was the best of the recent seasons - you've never heard a cheer like it when the tannoy announced we'd secured level two for the following season and it wasn't the end of April! We finished that campaign in the heady heights of 7th...

*in the sense that I thought we were surviving in the Championship but would probably struggle to get into it if we weren't already in it, if you see what I mean. We seemed to have learned well to cut the cloth that we'd got (based on spinning out our tenuous existence in the second tier into double figure seasons), but would struggle without the RFU funding, as indeed turned out to be the case...


Edited by billesleyexile - 24 Apr 2019 at 14:21
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