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    Posted: 19 hours 42 minutes ago at 08:17
Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

WWWE i enjoyed and agree with much of your rant. However of the £550,000 from the RFU only around £100,000 has to be used on the areas you listed. The vast majority can and is spent on player wages -this is why YC are desperate to somehow stay in the Champ especially if the rumour of no relegation from the Champ next season turns out to be true. As a club -sorry not a club just a bunch of players thrown together wearing the same jersey on weekends-they are just seeking to manipulate the regulations to avoid the consequences of gross financial mismanagement. Sad to see the RFU colluding with them to allow this to happen. What 'value' will they bring to the Championship next season? What message does this send out to other clubs who spend way beyond their means and then just discard people with no thought for the consequences of these actions to players/coaches and their families. Pretty shameful really.
 

C'mon Broncos! I may actually go watch the Broncos/Hull KR game this Thursday down at Vallis Way, which will lift one of the 3 teams currently on even points off of the bottom. Should be a good game, you get 3 pints with your ticket, and I want to check out what construction has been ongoing during the offseason so far.

Hang your head in shame Gerg - watching the other code is bad enough but paying for it!!! LOL
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Originally posted by marigold marigold wrote:

WWWE i enjoyed and agree with much of your rant. However of the £550,000 from the RFU only around £100,000 has to be used on the areas you listed. The vast majority can and is spent on player wages -this is why YC are desperate to somehow stay in the Champ especially if the rumour of no relegation from the Champ next season turns out to be true. As a club -sorry not a club just a bunch of players thrown together wearing the same jersey on weekends-they are just seeking to manipulate the regulations to avoid the consequences of gross financial mismanagement. Sad to see the RFU colluding with them to allow this to happen. What 'value' will they bring to the Championship next season? What message does this send out to other clubs who spend way beyond their means and then just discard people with no thought for the consequences of these actions to players/coaches and their families. Pretty shameful really.
 

C'mon Broncos! I may actually go watch the Broncos/Hull KR game this Thursday down at Vallis Way, which will lift one of the 3 teams currently on even points off of the bottom. Should be a good game, you get 3 pints with your ticket, and I want to check out what construction has been ongoing during the offseason so far.
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Originally posted by geralltrugby geralltrugby wrote:

Thought the RFU were making an example of Welsh. They do appear to being more “patient” with Leeds. Then again Welsh took them to the courts so probably didn’t help their case.
 

I had the same thought last week. Welsh were definitely made an example of, which makes me nervous for Ealing's ambitions this year. I'm convinced that they can give Falcons a run for their money, but if they do, will the RFU conspire to destroy them?
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Thought the RFU were making an example of Welsh. They do appear to being more “patient” with Leeds. Then again Welsh took them to the courts so probably didn’t help their case.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marigold Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 12:50
WWWE i enjoyed and agree with much of your rant. However of the £550,000 from the RFU only around £100,000 has to be used on the areas you listed. The vast majority can and is spent on player wages -this is why YC are desperate to somehow stay in the Champ especially if the rumour of no relegation from the Champ next season turns out to be true. As a club -sorry not a club just a bunch of players thrown together wearing the same jersey on weekends-they are just seeking to manipulate the regulations to avoid the consequences of gross financial mismanagement. Sad to see the RFU colluding with them to allow this to happen. What 'value' will they bring to the Championship next season? What message does this send out to other clubs who spend way beyond their means and then just discard people with no thought for the consequences of these actions to players/coaches and their families. Pretty shameful really.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JonDee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 12:24
Headingley is not a happy place at the moment with the Rhino's only keeping off the bottom on points difference. Could be that both teams get relegated that would be make a few headlines
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Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

They have already said that the only full-time employee will be a head coach. For players they will presumably have a base of academy players and Leeds Beckett students and such money as there is may be enough to tempt some more seasoned local players.

I know many on here don't like Headingley as a spectating venue but the players' facilities are brand new and the surface is now very good (just relaid). The Kirkstall training facilities are also very good and pretty new, having had to be replaced after the 2015 floods.


It didn't look that good in the Rhinos game this week. Bare patches and loose soil down the wings - probably a result of the recent construction works


It has been relaid since the works were completed. This seems to be done every summer. Maybe the turf hasn't bedded in yet where it joins the artificial stuff along the touchlines.


Nothing to do with the join with artificial on touch line as it was 2 or 3 yards in from the touch line.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

They have already said that the only full-time employee will be a head coach. For players they will presumably have a base of academy players and Leeds Beckett students and such money as there is may be enough to tempt some more seasoned local players.

I know many on here don't like Headingley as a spectating venue but the players' facilities are brand new and the surface is now very good (just relaid). The Kirkstall training facilities are also very good and pretty new, having had to be replaced after the 2015 floods.


It didn't look that good in the Rhinos game this week. Bare patches and loose soil down the wings - probably a result of the recent construction works


It has been relaid since the works were completed. This seems to be done every summer. Maybe the turf hasn't bedded in yet where it joins the artificial stuff along the touchlines.
That's easy for you to say.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 11:12
The academy players were running out for Huddersfield, Hull Ionians, Otley or Wharfedale last season. 
I do not know how many have been snapped up by those clubs.
But even if Leeds can keep them, it is a step up and there are not a lot of old hands to guide them.


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Steele Barker
Tor Borrowdale Huddersfield
Adam Brown Hull Ionians
Harry Butler
Ben Carlile Hull Ionians
Joe Carpenter
Harry Carter
Jack Cherry
Luke Fairbank
Joe Gatus Otley
Joe Green Huddersfield
Connor HanHuckleberry
Angus Haswell
Maddison Hunting
Sam Ives
Chris Jackson Hull Ionians
Dan Lancaster Hull Ionians
Oren Loftus
James Malcolmson
Tom Mann Wharfedale
Lawrence Mason
Harry Matthews
Ben McNamara
Jack Metcalf
Will Pritchard
Archie Smeaton
Theo Smerdon
Will Smith
Tom Stephenson Hull Ionians
Kian Stewart Huddersfield
Ben Sugars Otley
Ben Taylor
Ted Wainwright
Ollie Williams
Kieran Wilyman Otley

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Originally posted by Albert Fishwick Albert Fishwick wrote:

They have already said that the only full-time employee will be a head coach. For players they will presumably have a base of academy players and Leeds Beckett students and such money as there is may be enough to tempt some more seasoned local players.

I know many on here don't like Headingley as a spectating venue but the players' facilities are brand new and the surface is now very good (just relaid). The Kirkstall training facilities are also very good and pretty new, having had to be replaced after the 2015 floods.


It didn't look that good in the Rhinos game this week. Bare patches and loose soil down the wings - probably a result of the recent construction works
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote covmick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 2019 at 12:18
Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Rugby has completely lost its way and any sense of value that it had. The RFU are mean't to be providing for the game as a whole not just for the elite (and they are not even doing that). The game as we knew it died some years ago and unless some drastic corrective action is taken very rapidly it may well cease to exist in a few years. Not because of financial pressures but rather because those passionate volunteers who give to and care for the game, vastly more than the RFU does , lose heart and interest.

I, for one, will not lose heart or interest. I started supporting the Pirates aged about 6, now 68. If we end up once again as an amateur club in the Devon and Cornwall league (where we started) I'll still be there.


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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

I am not suggesting club supporters and volunteers will lose heart or interest because of the fate of their own club, but rather because the integrity of the game itself erodes to a point of no return
I also support Pirates Amateurs who, as the name suggests, do not pay anyone - it's written into their constitution. The team is made up of local boys, most coming from The Pirates junior and colts sections. I can't see that ever losing its integrity. It is a struggle at times, but the club is run by people who love rugby (many are former players) and love their club and it is flourishing. 

Posts like yours Stalwart make me more optimistic.............perhaps rugby may just hold onto its soul
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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

I am not suggesting club supporters and volunteers will lose heart or interest because of the fate of their own club, but rather because the integrity of the game itself erodes to a point of no return
I also support Pirates Amateurs who, as the name suggests, do not pay anyone - it's written into their constitution. The team is made up of local boys, most coming from The Pirates junior and colts sections. I can't see that ever losing its integrity. It is a struggle at times, but the club is run by people who love rugby (many are former players) and love their club and it is flourishing. 
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Hear Hear
I renewed my season ticket for Cambridge before we went to Sale. 
As everyone knows for 75+ minutes that day we were down.
The relief was palpable.
But had the worst happen I would still have been back.



Hear, hear.
(I was just pleased to find someone who knew how to spell 'hear, hear' for a change).
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I am not suggesting club supporters and volunteers will lose heart or interest because of the fate of their own club, but rather because the integrity of the game itself erodes to a point of no return
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2019 at 23:23
Hear Hear
I renewed my season ticket for Cambridge before we went to Sale. 
As everyone knows for 75+ minutes that day we were down.
The relief was palpable.
But had the worst happen I would still have been back.

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Originally posted by Big Eddie Big Eddie wrote:

Rugby has completely lost its way and any sense of value that it had. The RFU are mean't to be providing for the game as a whole not just for the elite (and they are not even doing that). The game as we knew it died some years ago and unless some drastic corrective action is taken very rapidly it may well cease to exist in a few years. Not because of financial pressures but rather because those passionate volunteers who give to and care for the game, vastly more than the RFU does , lose heart and interest.

I, for one, will not lose heart or interest. I started supporting the Pirates aged about 6, now 68. If we end up once again as an amateur club in the Devon and Cornwall league (where we started) I'll still be there.

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Rugby has completely lost its way and any sense of value that it had. The RFU are mean't to be providing for the game as a whole not just for the elite (and they are not even doing that). The game as we knew it died some years ago and unless some drastic corrective action is taken very rapidly it may well cease to exist in a few years. Not because of financial pressures but rather because those passionate volunteers who give to and care for the game, vastly more than the RFU does , lose heart and interest.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2019 at 14:03
Insolvency practitioners always get paid!!!!! Strangely
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rugby players have to be paid in full. The insolvency practitioners also.
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