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    Posted: 25 Sep 2020 at 14:50
Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

To the left of the half way line perhaps.....Wink

The opposite side of the ground to his mate's dad?
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Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 

.Well after that last night, now lets see what happens ....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2020 at 08:06
To the left of the half way line perhaps.....Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote paddym Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 17:00
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens


Where do you stand on dual registration? 

More to the point where does his nephew stand?

Even more to the point where does his nephews friend
stand?
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens


Where do you stand on dual registration? 

More to the point where does his nephew stand?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Sep 2020 at 04:14
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens


Where do you stand on dual registration? 
"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 


 
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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They spent the "Go Fund The Team" money already?

Hope they get a decent loan fee for him! 
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 



Is this the nephew who feeds you so much of the incorrect information you post on here?

Or do you have more than one nephew wishing his mum and dad were from one-parent families?


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Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 


Is this the nephew who feeds you so much of the incorrect information you post on here?

Or do you have more than one nephew wishing his mum and dad were from one-parent families?
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Just to emphasise the point - you HAVE to sign and register a contract with the RFU if ANY form or system of payment or remuneration is to be given. HMRC have to be informed also. That includes travelling expenses, match fees, signing bonuses etc - absolutely everything. Handing out £20 notes after training would be very dodgy. It actually protects both the player and the club to have everything written down and agreed upon. The vast majority of National League clubs now conform to this standard, but there are a few that still do it the wrong way. Eventually they will come unstuck - as several already have.

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Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.

It depends on the paid per game, 

is it paid per appearance in said game or paid for the game the club has participated in or paid for the game the club should of participated in... 

it is open to interpretation, this is where the issue lies with no formal contract to outline the players and clubs obligations


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Originally posted by Mark W-J Mark W-J wrote:

In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.

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In all fairness to you, I think it's pretty obvious that when you said 'paid per game, not on a contract' you meant 'not on a salary'.

Edited by Mark W-J - 27 Aug 2020 at 14:24
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I have no knowledge of how Moseley signings work. My response above was to 'scrumtime' s' assumption on the clubs position. 
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according to my nephews friend who plays sevens with a player who used to play for blood and sand. cambridge overspent by abotu 40,000 last year and were in a bit of trouble and used gofundme to cover up this hole. however big new signings not getting paid until season starts. just expenses money etc. £20 notes handed out to cover petrol after training which is fair enough. 

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Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game

Quite apart from anything else, the GoFundMe page (and additional donations direct to the club) was/is quite literally a squadbuilder fund, not a keep the lights on fund. It was/is communicated entirely in terms of building the team, not keeping the lights on. So, "club raises money to spend on players then signs players" might not necessarily be the story some seem to think it is. It was *never* a "save Moseley" fund, and was always a "help us sign more players" fund. As a contributor, I'm glad to have helped.




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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

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How do know Moseley players were signed. They may not be on contracts but paid per game
 
Kingsheathlad,
 
I sincerely hope that no Club is paying players on a 'paid per game' basis without those players having signed a contract. Such a Club would be in deep s--t if found out.

You absolutely 100% have to sign a contract and it has to be registered with the RFU to receive ANY financial remuneration at all. It doesn't matter whether a player is on a monthly salary or is on a much more sensible pay to play deal. Contracts are obligatory and if players are receiving money or any other financial benefit without one, the club are in a very serious breach of RFU regulations, never mind HMRC.
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