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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It looks like they would have to have two seasons in the championship - I wonder how many of their stars would remain then...


I saw an article the other day stating there were moves a foot for Saracens to join an expanded Premiership should the Championship not happen.

This is something that wouldn't surprise me at all.

That would be typical of the protectionism we have come to expect from the Premiership.
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Safety of players remains paramount.
Hearing local radio, after a football league team had a positive test. They spoke about the £x thousands in testing privately.
It seems tests are carried out at Premier League on a regular basis.
But at lower levels, it’s temperature checks and looking for symptoms. I really imagine what rugby at lower levels needs is a reliable testing system, that can be done at a reasonable costs. Once thats found the question of what level spectators can attend. I think it’s only Prem, Championship, National 1 that might be affected more.
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

I think you'll find it's the virus and individuals behaviour which has scuppered the return,as opposed to Boris. How many people are you happy to die,so that you cant watch a bit of rugby?


Oh please...enough of the hysteria. Fit young Rugby players are more likely to die from falling down the stairs than the Wuhan sniffles.  The rest of us can make our own risk assessments. Even if a safe vaccine can be  developed its unlikely to be any more effective than the annual flu shot. 

 It's not just Rugby that won't recover from these Covid restrictions, It's theatre, cinema, live music...like sport, things that make life worth living. If players feel unsafe or have underlying health conditions then of course their feelings should be respected. Otherwise, Rishi Sunak is right.  It's time to stop putting our lives on hold and live without fear.

Non league football is going ahead. I went this afternoon. Crowd around 400. Spoke to a couple of guys that I know are in their late 80's. They told me they feel perfectly safe - more so than in the supermarket. 


Where is the logic in non-league football being allowed to have crowds - most of whom are not seated?

When Premiership Rugby, EPL and EFL football are not allowed any crowd despite most stadia being all-seater?

I can only presume the powers that be have forgotten to ban non-league football crowds.

Well by the same token, where's the logic in allowing BLM and XR protest marches/gatherings?

 If they've forgotten about Non league football, then thank goodness as it's an oasis of a little sanity in an  otherwise cheerless desert.

Many non league Football  clubs won't survive without fans, gate receipts and bar takings. I imagine many Rugby clubs are in the same boat.

I went to the Brighton v Chelsea game at the Amex in August.  Very well organised. People behaving sensibly. No problems whatsoever. Felt perfectly safe.

If it's ok for people to gather ad hoc to protest about whatever is boiling their pish, why can't people be allowed to watch sport sensibly  in a controlled and ordered fashion? 

It's not the crowds, it's the safety of players which is holding the restart up.

Close contacts in scrums, mauls etc where "fit young players" could catch the virus, pass it on to others less able to withstand it's effects. 


So you're  not actually positing an argument about the safety of the players. Rather you are citing a perception of potential risk to people with whom they may subsequently come into contact?
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Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

I think you'll find it's the virus and individuals behaviour which has scuppered the return,as opposed to Boris. How many people are you happy to die,so that you cant watch a bit of rugby?


Oh please...enough of the hysteria. Fit young Rugby players are more likely to die from falling down the stairs than the Wuhan sniffles.  The rest of us can make our own risk assessments. Even if a safe vaccine can be  developed its unlikely to be any more effective than the annual flu shot. 

 It's not just Rugby that won't recover from these Covid restrictions, It's theatre, cinema, live music...like sport, things that make life worth living. If players feel unsafe or have underlying health conditions then of course their feelings should be respected. Otherwise, Rishi Sunak is right.  It's time to stop putting our lives on hold and live without fear.

Non league football is going ahead. I went this afternoon. Crowd around 400. Spoke to a couple of guys that I know are in their late 80's. They told me they feel perfectly safe - more so than in the supermarket. 


Where is the logic in non-league football being allowed to have crowds - most of whom are not seated?

When Premiership Rugby, EPL and EFL football are not allowed any crowd despite most stadia being all-seater?

I can only presume the powers that be have forgotten to ban non-league football crowds.

Well by the same token, where's the logic in allowing BLM and XR protest marches/gatherings?

 If they've forgotten about Non league football, then thank goodness as it's an oasis of a little sanity in an  otherwise cheerless desert.

Many non league Football  clubs won't survive without fans, gate receipts and bar takings. I imagine many Rugby clubs are in the same boat.

I went to the Brighton v Chelsea game at the Amex in August.  Very well organised. People behaving sensibly. No problems whatsoever. Felt perfectly safe.

If it's ok for people to gather ad hoc to protest about whatever is boiling their pish, why can't people be allowed to watch sport sensibly  in a controlled and ordered fashion? 

It's not the crowds, it's the safety of players which is holding the restart up.

Close contacts in scrums, mauls etc where "fit young players" could catch the virus, pass it on to others less able to withstand it's effects. 


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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

I think you'll find it's the virus and individuals behaviour which has scuppered the return,as opposed to Boris. How many people are you happy to die,so that you cant watch a bit of rugby?


Oh please...enough of the hysteria. Fit young Rugby players are more likely to die from falling down the stairs than the Wuhan sniffles.  The rest of us can make our own risk assessments. Even if a safe vaccine can be  developed its unlikely to be any more effective than the annual flu shot. 

 It's not just Rugby that won't recover from these Covid restrictions, It's theatre, cinema, live music...like sport, things that make life worth living. If players feel unsafe or have underlying health conditions then of course their feelings should be respected. Otherwise, Rishi Sunak is right.  It's time to stop putting our lives on hold and live without fear.

Non league football is going ahead. I went this afternoon. Crowd around 400. Spoke to a couple of guys that I know are in their late 80's. They told me they feel perfectly safe - more so than in the supermarket. 


Where is the logic in non-league football being allowed to have crowds - most of whom are not seated?

When Premiership Rugby, EPL and EFL football are not allowed any crowd despite most stadia being all-seater?

I can only presume the powers that be have forgotten to ban non-league football crowds.

Well by the same token, where's the logic in allowing BLM and XR protest marches/gatherings?

 If they've forgotten about Non league football, then thank goodness as it's an oasis of a little sanity in an  otherwise cheerless desert.

Many non league Football  clubs won't survive without fans, gate receipts and bar takings. I imagine many Rugby clubs are in the same boat.

I went to the Brighton v Chelsea game at the Amex in August.  Very well organised. People behaving sensibly. No problems whatsoever. Felt perfectly safe.

If it's ok for people to gather ad hoc to protest about whatever is boiling their pish, why can't people be allowed to watch sport sensibly  in a controlled and ordered fashion? 
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Originally posted by Sussexscots Sussexscots wrote:

Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

I think you'll find it's the virus and individuals behaviour which has scuppered the return,as opposed to Boris. How many people are you happy to die,so that you cant watch a bit of rugby?


Oh please...enough of the hysteria. Fit young Rugby players are more likely to die from falling down the stairs than the Wuhan sniffles.  The rest of us can make our own risk assessments. Even if a safe vaccine can be  developed its unlikely to be any more effective than the annual flu shot. 

 It's not just Rugby that won't recover from these Covid restrictions, It's theatre, cinema, live music...like sport, things that make life worth living. If players feel unsafe or have underlying health conditions then of course their feelings should be respected. Otherwise, Rishi Sunak is right.  It's time to stop putting our lives on hold and live without fear.

Non league football is going ahead. I went this afternoon. Crowd around 400. Spoke to a couple of guys that I know are in their late 80's. They told me they feel perfectly safe - more so than in the supermarket. 


Where is the logic in non-league football being allowed to have crowds - most of whom are not seated?

When Premiership Rugby, EPL and EFL football are not allowed any crowd despite most stadia being all-seater?

I can only presume the powers that be have forgotten to ban non-league football crowds.
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It looks like they would have to have two seasons in the championship - I wonder how many of their stars would remain then...


I saw an article the other day stating there were moves a foot for Saracens to join an expanded Premiership should the Championship not happen.

This is something that wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Originally posted by Fly Half Fly Half wrote:

I think you'll find it's the virus and individuals behaviour which has scuppered the return,as opposed to Boris. How many people are you happy to die,so that you cant watch a bit of rugby?

Oh please...enough of the hysteria. Fit young Rugby players are more likely to die from falling down the stairs than the Wuhan sniffles.  The rest of us can make our own risk assessments. Even if a safe vaccine can be  developed its unlikely to be any more effective than the annual flu shot. 

 It's not just Rugby that won't recover from these Covid restrictions, It's theatre, cinema, live music...like sport, things that make life worth living. If players feel unsafe or have underlying health conditions then of course their feelings should be respected. Otherwise, Rishi Sunak is right.  It's time to stop putting our lives on hold and live without fear.

Non league football is going ahead. I went this afternoon. Crowd around 400. Spoke to a couple of guys that I know are in their late 80's. They told me they feel perfectly safe - more so than in the supermarket. 
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Originally posted by Full Bodied Red Full Bodied Red wrote:

Do you really think there’ll be an effective, available vaccine before next season? 
Don't know, but until there is a vaccine I can't see much changing.
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European semi final, and 20 minutes to go, noses in front (although with face coverings maybe it’s not a nose).
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It looks like they would have to have two seasons in the championship - I wonder how many of their stars would remain then...

Sadly I can't imagine for a minute that would happen. More likely they won't be relegated in the first place.
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Do you really think there’ll be an effective, available vaccine before next season? 
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Originally posted by Guinness John Guinness John wrote:

While I hope to be proved wrong, I just can't see rugby as we knew it with "normal " crowds happening again until next season. That is assuming there isn't a third or fourth wave. The current restrictions assuming it is for 6 months will stop rugby happening at Championship level. Sooner or later players / club officials will get the virus and that will make the decision inevitable. 

I think we're banking on a vaccination coming on stream in 2021, only then will things return to "normal."
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While I hope to be proved wrong, I just can't see rugby as we knew it with "normal " crowds happening again until next season. That is assuming there isn't a third or fourth wave. The current restrictions assuming it is for 6 months will stop rugby happening at Championship level. Sooner or later players / club officials will get the virus and that will make the decision inevitable. 
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So it's taken over 6 months of this for someone to decide that this would be an important thing to discover.........

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A welcome step towards getting our clubhouses fully reopened.

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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It looks like they would have to have two seasons in the championship - I wonder how many of their stars would remain then...

And in a Lions year too

Now it would be funnier if.
Saracens win European Cup.
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Then a 16 team two conference system sends Saracens to Blackheath or Plymouth. Then a play off against Sale FC.
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

It looks like they would have to have two seasons in the championship - I wonder how many of their stars would remain then...

And in a Lions year too
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Embarrassed Caught out, catch you one day for that beer

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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Yes I do too LOL
A hint of sarcasm sir, surely not from you.  😂😂😂😂 🍺🍺🍺


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