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    Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 16:14
I don't do the weekly predictions (not publicly anyway) but with six rounds to go I'm going to have a punt on those you will end up either end of the 'comfort zone'.

1. Guernsey
2. Hertford
3. Barnes
4. Tring

The Islanders have looked the best and the most consistent team and don't look as though they are going to slip up. Hertford although lying 4th at the moment, have the easiest run in. Form and league position would say that they should go undefeated but last weeks close call against Westcliff flag the re-match as potential banana skin for the last home game of the season. 250 prosecco fuelled 'Ladies' sitting down for lunch may help Hertford (us). With the current top 3 all playing each other in the last couple of weeks of the season a Barnes win against G's could settle those two in the tops spots. I seem to be writing off Tring which is always a dangerous thing to do. I have a feeling the play off spot will be decided by bonus points.



12. Westcombe Park
13. Southend
14. Towcestrians

I think the bottom 3 will remain as it currently stands. WP are having a bit of a revival, as I thought Southend were for a while, but looking at all the fixtures it may well be too late for both.

What do you think?
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I’ll take a guess now at
1. Guernsey   2. Barnes   3. Hertford. (I’ve fancied Barnes since Xmas, but Guernsey really impressive me on Saturday, so I now think they will finish top.

12. Westcombe Park, 13. Towcestrians 14. Southend (WP could still survive but I feel they need a great run in, and help from others to do it).

Before the season started I predicted
1. Westcombe Park 2. Barnes. 3. Hertford

12. Towcestrians 13. Sidcup 14. Southend












Edited by Thames Estuary Man - 20 Feb 2018 at 23:40
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Sidcup, S&E and Guildford should be looking over their shoulders nervously.

Guildford in 8th looks a false position (thank goodness for BPs I guess) with only 6 wins and a draw. If WP get a bit of a run going they are still my faves to drop. along with Southend and Towcester.

Looks like the play-off game will be home for whoever makes it. Too many variables to call that one.  
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looking at the remaining fixtures at the final predicted finish 

Sidcup 54 points
Guildford 52
Shelford 50
S&E 50
WP 42
Saxons ....
Tows....

However I seem to remember a few seasons back where all of the bottom sides managed to get results against everyone, winning 4 or 5 of their last games

I think Tows and Saxons are on holiday and preparing for London 1
Just think the Gap is to big for WP and having to play all the top 4 sides on their run in... 

At the top - Hertford have the easy run in and could yet pip it but must get the bonus point in all matches to stand a chance - No pressure  
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Towcestrians will in all probality be in either Midlands 1East or in Wadworth 6X South West 1 East
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I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.
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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.

You can tell from their programme, they're not too happy with the RFU for putting them in this league. I bet they really hate Peterborough now.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.

You can tell from their programme, they're not too happy with the RFU for putting them in this league. I bet they really hate Peterborough now.
Why is there this misconception that Midlands Premier under whatever guise is any more easy than the other leagues? All I will say is clubs who move from the Midlands to Southern leagues then have more travelling than those regular to the league which puts players off. Although I must say Maidenhead travelling to Ivybridge to find the game called off can't have been impressed. Conversely some teams moving from North have been successful but also others have been less so and been saved by others demise. All leagues are competitive with regional players.
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No-one said the Midlands Prem. Is easier and you answered your own question with the inference that players wouldn't want to travel (Though I wonder if that suddenly wasn't a problem after promotion).
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1. Guernsey
2. Barnes
3. Hertford
4. Tring



12. Westcombe Park
13. Southend
14. Towcestrians
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Originally posted by Friendly prop Friendly prop wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.

You can tell from their programme, they're not too happy with the RFU for putting them in this league. I bet they really hate Peterborough now.
Why is there this misconception that Midlands Premier under whatever guise is any more easy than the other leagues? All I will say is clubs who move from the Midlands to Southern leagues then have more travelling than those regular to the league which puts players off. Although I must say Maidenhead travelling to Ivybridge to find the game called off can't have been impressed. Conversely some teams moving from North have been successful but also others have been less so and been saved by others demise. All leagues are competitive with regional players.


FP - I think that this "perception" comes from the fact that over the past few years of Level 5 rugby in the South West, we have seen Malvern, Worcester and Bromsgrove all come into the SW league and struggle.  Likewise Broadstreet in the league above, and Hinckley a few years back.  None last more than a season, so I do believe the perception is well founded - whether its fair or not, is another matter.
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Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Let's bring it back to the topic!! Everyone is allowed to have their view!

We don't want another Waterloo do we?

So my money is on the following:

Top
Westcombe Park (Got stronger last season and look exciting for this year)
Dorking (A season of rebuilding last year and the cream will show through)
Tunbridge Wells (The money will buy them a promising season)

Bottom 3

Towcestrians (It sounds that even their own predict a tough season ahead)
Southend Saxons (They sound like they are in self destruct)
Sidcup (Great club who will bounce straight back down)

Well that's my heads decisions - my heart wants the following....
Top 3
Sutton & Epsom
Dorking
Sidcup
Bottom 3
Guildford
Barnes
Guernsey

On a previous thread I predicted in LSE Prem the above!! Now we’re near the end I think the winners and losers will be:
Top
Guernsey
Hertford
Barnes

Bottom
Westcombe Park
Southend
Towcestrians

However, Shelford need to watch their backs.


Edited by Cannon - 23 Feb 2018 at 17:16
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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.
Something I mentioned a few weeks back. I think they would have been OK and really got the short straw in the level transfer postcode lottery. Tough for Tows but they will bounce back. good luck to them.
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Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

I wonder how Towcestrians would have done in Midlands Prem this season if they hadn't been transferred. 

One of life's great imponderables.
Something I mentioned a few weeks back. I think they would have been OK and really got the short straw in the level transfer postcode lottery. Tough for Tows but they will bounce back. good luck to them.

Something I asked previously but don't appear to have had a reply.
Can you flatly refuse to have a level transfer ?

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No you can't. You can appeal but utlimately, you cannot refuse it if all other options have been exhuasted.
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Is there really a difference in quality between the divisions?
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Camquin -

Only in budgets available I would imagine and potential of job support opportunities within the London & SE 

But many will say they don't pay

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Camquin -

Only in budgets available I would imagine and potential of job support opportunities within the London & SE 

But many will say they don't pay

But don’t worry AT, next season “no one” will be paying under the RFUs new guidance!!!! It is a joke that clubs insist they don’t pay, when all around know they do - however tenuous the actual excuse!!
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Hertford pay, and they are open about it.

Top3
Guernsey
Barnes
Hertford

Bottom 3
Sutton & Epsom
Southend
Tows
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Originally posted by Blub Blub wrote:


FP - I think that this "perception" comes from the fact that over the past few years of Level 5 rugby in the South West, we have seen Malvern, Worcester and Bromsgrove all come into the SW league and struggle.  Likewise Broadstreet in the league above, and Hinckley a few years back.  None last more than a season, so I do believe the perception is well founded - whether its fair or not, is another matter.

The one team you failed to mention from the Midlands who didn’t fail were Ampthill who moved back & forth between the leagues and now sit in Nat 1.
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