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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kingsheathlad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 06:37
I noticed Stratford Upon Avon are in South West 1 East and about mid table.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 08:31
Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

I noticed Stratford Upon Avon are in South West 1 East and about mid table.


Crazy daft, isn't it? A club with a Coventry postcode being in the SW division.
Are the RFU on drugs?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kingsheathlad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 09:09
Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by kingsheathlad kingsheathlad wrote:

I noticed Stratford Upon Avon are in South West 1 East and about mid table.


Crazy daft, isn't it? A club with a Coventry postcode being in the SW division.
Are the RFU on drugs?
Don't answer that.


If you consider some of the players might work Saturday mornings to,so to get to an away game it is impossible to travel some of those distances imo.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 09:50
As discussed elsewhere SW goes as far as Chipping Campdem (Gloucestershire) and Banbury (BBO)

Wimbourne in Dorset is Stratford's longest drive at that level and that is practically motorway all the way.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bin Licker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 10:54
Suspect it is a bit of both. There might be more money down south but reckon travel is a bigger factor.
Some of the distances are a bit much and I know several who switched clubs to escape the travel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Blub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 11:25
Originally posted by Friendly prop Friendly prop wrote:

Originally posted by Blub Blub wrote:


FP - I think that this "perception" comes from the fact that over the past few years of Level 5 rugby in the South West, we have seen Malvern, Worcester and Bromsgrove all come into the SW league and struggle.  Likewise Broadstreet in the league above, and Hinckley a few years back.  None last more than a season, so I do believe the perception is well founded - whether its fair or not, is another matter.

The one team you failed to mention from the Midlands who didn’t fail were Ampthill who moved back & forth between the leagues and now sit in Nat 1.


Frankly I had no idea where Ampthill was/is - I actually thought it was Hertfordshier somewhere.

To be clear, I am not saying that Midlands rugby does not have strong sides, it is just that all of the sideways movers that spring to (my) mind, are not successful.

Hence the perception.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

As discussed elsewhere SW goes as far as Chipping Campdem (Gloucestershire) and Banbury (BBO)

Wimbourne in Dorset is Stratford's longest drive at that level and that is practically motorway all the way.


Which motorway is that then?
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A46, M40, A34, M3, M27, A31

I admit A34 is a grade separated dual carriageway trunk roads, so not legally a Motorway, but the driving experience is not very different.

Ampthill is Bedfordshire, which is East Midlands. 
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

As discussed elsewhere SW goes as far as Chipping Campdem (Gloucestershire) and Banbury (BBO)

Wimbourne in Dorset is Stratford's longest drive at that level and that is practically motorway all the way.

Chipping Campden (Gloucestershire), yes, but to drag Stratford into it is ridiculous, given their resources (or lack of). Warwickshire is most assuredly not in the SW Division.
Shipston RFC, which is well to the south of Stratford is in the Midland Division.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ardross Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 17:33
Towcestrians in Northamptonshire (Post Code NN12) in Northamptonshire, currently in London Premier have played in a Midlands league (National 3 Midlands in 2016/17) only once in the last 5 seasons. Probably one of the very few clubs who have played in all four regions since the inception of the leagues . 

The geographic location makes us sitting ducks for "level transfers"  under the RFU competition rules which are based on "away mileage" thus making the likes of Chippenham, Salisbury Swanage, Devzies, Sheffield, Sandbach, Bridgenorth, Tunbridge Wells, Southend, Guildford, Dorking,  Sidcup, Guernsey et al, neighbours in the eyes of the RFU .

There is an upside in that one gets to visit new clubs and sample the local ales and gain an extensive  knowlege of the M1, M40, M6 and M25
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 18:20
I am surprised you were ever placed in the North.

The alternative to level transfer is to relegate an extra side from the division with too many teams and promote an extra side from the division that is light.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Friendly prop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 2018 at 19:42
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I am surprised you were ever placed in the North.

The alternative to level transfer is to relegate an extra side from the division with too many teams and promote an extra side from the division that is light.
I don't think they played in the North division rather Sheffield were level transferred last season into Midlands and Sandbach won NW1 in 2011/2012 have been in Midlands Prem/Nat 3 since then albeit they were saved by the LW rule last season although they are doing very well this season. So effectively Tows have played teams from the North rather than been in the North division. 
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For the record and sake of completness Towcestrians played at Level 4 in the then named Courage National 4 North league ( currently known as National League 2 North) from which they were relegated in season 1992 / 93.

It is therfore  a matter of fact that the club has indeed played in each of the 4 RFU regional leagues rather than just played against clubs which by their geographic  location may be deemed "northern" sides. 
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Originally posted by Ardross Ardross wrote:

For the record and sake of completness Towcestrians played at Level 4 in the then named Courage National 4 North league ( currently known as National League 2 North) from which they were relegated in season 1992 / 93.

It is therfore  a matter of fact that the club has indeed played in each of the 4 RFU regional leagues rather than just played against clubs which by their geographic  location may be deemed "northern" sides. 

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