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    Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 17:58
Viney signs for Fylde on return from Oz
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 19:46
No such thing as loyalty these days. But then again he hasn't played at Hops for five years so he's a free agent.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 21:09
Great player and good signing for Fylde - he will suit Fylde's style of play

Heard he was speaking to the hoppers to. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 22:12
Great signing for the club and probably much needed given the exit of some of their senior squad players; don't think there's much depth coming from their second team either having glanced at their recent results.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 22:35
Originally posted by L33 L33 wrote:

Great player and good signing for Fylde - he will suit Fylde's style of play

Heard he was speaking to the hoppers to. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 08:00
Originally posted by HighishTackle HighishTackle wrote:

Great signing for the club and probably much needed given the exit of some of their senior squad players.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 08:10
Two second team backs
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 09:37
Originally posted by inky inky wrote:

Two second team backs

Jack Ward was integral to Fylde's 1st XV last season, Matt Gargett has over 30 1st XV appearances.

You have forgotten Alan Holmes


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 11:47
Ward only played a few 1st team games last season, Waywell and Briers were the centre pairing for most of the season but he did play a lot the season before.

With wingers of the quality of Royle and Brennand, Gargett was never going to be first choice but had he stuck at it would have got his chance with Royle missing games through his sevens committments.

Holmes is probably the bigger loss of the 3 but after missing the start of the season injured found himself behind Roddam and Loney.  He would undoubtedly have figured in a number of games with injuries to both of those players.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 16:54
Just had a very quick browse of statbunker (not sure how accurate these figures are). Between Holmes, Ward and Gargett they had 60 appearances for Fylde in 09/10 which dropped to 31 in 10/11 and then this year I think only Holmes has made appearances from the bench, Ward and Gargett never featured. Understandable why they left when you look at the figures and the word on the grapevine is they're all performing very well for Hoppers, Holmes has been playing for the 1st team for a few weeks and I believe Gargett and Ward played on Saturday. 

As a Fylde follower I'd be interested to know why seemingly talented young players are being allowed to leave to be replaced by players that have a long "rugby CV"? It seems that a lot of the academy players/younger players are playing elsewhere with the exception of 1 or 2, I may be wrong but thats how it appears.

Anyway, on a more positive note I can't wait to see Brennand, Royle and Viney on the counter attacks, destructive is an understatement!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 19:48
Originally posted by Observer Observer wrote:

Ward only played a few 1st team games last season, Waywell and Briers were the centre pairing for most of the season but he did play a lot the season before.

With wingers of the quality of Royle and Brennand, Gargett was never going to be first choice but had he stuck at it would have got his chance with Royle missing games through his sevens committments.

Holmes is probably the bigger loss of the 3 but after missing the start of the season injured found himself behind Roddam and Loney.  He would undoubtedly have figured in a number of games with injuries to both of those players.

Who in you opinion is the better winger Royle or Brennand and why? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 20:00
Brennand, no question as miles more ability and better at beating a man
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 20:17
Defensively they're both not great but in open play in attack probably Royle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 20:30
Would loved to have played in the same team as them.  Both unbelievable scoring records and as the previous poster states neither are known for the defence.

Brennand is slightly slower but has superior footwork and can beat a man in a narrow channel.

Whilst quicker, Royle tends to use power and is more dangerous in broken play but has a tendancy to loose concentration and is less of a team player.

If I was a winger I would prefer to face Royle if I had to choose one.

As someone who has played against them L33 who do you think is better
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 20:45
Originally posted by Observer Observer wrote:

Would loved to have played in the same team as them.  Both unbelievable scoring records and as the previous poster states neither are known for the defence.

Brennand is slightly slower but has superior footwork and can beat a man in a narrow channel.

Whilst quicker, Royle tends to use power and is more dangerous in broken play but has a tendancy to loose concentration and is less of a team player.

If I was a winger I would prefer to face Royle if I had to choose one.

As someone who has played against them L33 who do you think is better
The are both great rugby players and they are the two best backs i have played against - ( Apart from Paul Arnold ) 

As a rugby player i think Brennand is the better in my opinion - i used to have nightmares about him - he is the type of player who has great feet - he is next to you then suddenly outside you. 

I always relished the challenge against Royle and to use his words he likes to "Smash it" 
He is much more suited to 7s and would be the first name on my team sheet if playing 7s - if playing 15 he would be the 2nd name on the team sheet behind Mr Brennand

The way Fylde play who needs to be good defenders - if they dont kick the ball they are a great team.

I hope this answers you question Observer 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 09:50
Following on from L33 comments.
I would rather play opposite Brennand, Yes i have been skinned by both of them over the years.
 
Oli has very quick feet and can be gone in a flash, set your feet at your peril.
NR is very slippery and strong goes inside and outside, where i have learnt OB more often then not prefers the outside.
 
Give them both space and your behind your sticks 7 points down, I liked the idea of Royle at 15 giving him all that open space and broken field.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2011 at 16:52
Both excellent players and should help take Fylde to the league championship come April.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 08:22
I'm glad I've never had the privilege(!) of facing either. But I have watched both in around 75 matches since Oli made his starting debut v Kendal in 2005 (and scored a hat trick) and Nick in October of that year v Blaydon (and scored on debut too). And they have carried on in the same fashion for 7 seasons. Royle has scored more than a try per game, Brennand very close to that rate. I suspect that they've proved through their joint 250 tries or so that they've been the most successful scoring duo in the short history of the national leagues.

Up to this season, they have scored all these tries at level 4. But when given the chance, both have proved quite able to do the same at representative level, for Lancashire, England Counties and, in the case of Royle, for the Barbarians and England 7s.

And as others have said, they are quite different in style and personality. And Fylde have benefited from these differences as opponents have suffered. With the wider, free & open style of rugby being played last season and this, they have proved even more difficult to handle. I'm sure that they would both acknowledge that they have weaknesses but which player doesn't?

Fylde have had very fine wingers in its history including Tony Richards, Tony Swift, Simon Smith, Mark Preston, Brendan Hanavan & Greg Anderton. But, I think, never a striking pair like the current two. I wouldn't like to vote for one or other as the 'best'. I'm just grateful that I've been able to see them both over such a long period.




   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Dec 2011 at 16:29
Great stats Allan Thumbs Up That's quite a strike rate!
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