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Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

I know the women are close to the local clubs that have girls teams, plus it's natural for the top talent wanting to play at the top level to be interested to play at Loo, as the only premiership team in the northwest you would expect that.
haven't sale started a snr ladies team ? with premiership ambition and no doubt funding will they soak up local talent?
is it stours year yet
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Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

Dad, a great bit of research.

In Lancashire we have U15 & U18 teams at West Park, Littleborough & Leigh. Eccles have been struggling and the others tend not to have full compliments and number match. Whilst the game is doing well I can't help think that te RFU may be "over egging" the number of girls coming to the game.

The quality of play is very good and club coaches should be congratulated even though the season the RFU threw at us the 3 formats in one day at agrade representative level. The girls just wanted to prove themselves against their neighbouring counties at 15 a side but also had to play 7s and XRugby. Not very popular.

It seemed to me that the RFU were talent spotting 7s and marketing XRugby (which in my opinion will go nowhere) all under the banner of "development"

I also heard it was a pilot for the same format in the boys game, if that were to be the case there would be uproar in the CBs.

I dont want to steel Loos thread to go off on one about this but X7's was a complete failure of a format down here in the South - not least as they changed the rules re lineouts (or not) between the 2nd and 3rd county "festival" none of the girls really enjoyed it. At least for the 3rd festival they did at least play one full length 15 aside game as opposed to 3 short games - both the 2 TDG girls (fwds) i know hated X7's as well
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Originally posted by pen 15 pen 15 wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

I know the women are close to the local clubs that have girls teams, plus it's natural for the top talent wanting to play at the top level to be interested to play at Loo, as the only premiership team in the northwest you would expect that.
haven't sale started a snr ladies team ? with premiership ambition and no doubt funding will they soak up local talent?

Irrelevant in some ways as the Tyrells Prem is a 3 yr closed shop franchise type set up - no promotion/relegation
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 06:40
Think 'Loo Ladies are at a crossroads, new coaching setup announced yesterday and the threat of relegation this season in Tyrells Prem if u finish bottom, think Sale Ladies maybe somewhere off the pace, rumour is that West Park Leeds Ladies are the one's pushing for Prem status.
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Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

Originally posted by pen 15 pen 15 wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

I know the women are close to the local clubs that have girls teams, plus it's natural for the top talent wanting to play at the top level to be interested to play at Loo, as the only premiership team in the northwest you would expect that.
haven't sale started a snr ladies team ? with premiership ambition and no doubt funding will they soak up local talent?


Irrelevant in some ways as the Tyrells Prem is a 3 yr closed shop franchise type set up - no promotion/relegation


Relegation at the end of this year I believe. Good new coaching set up, players in,players out, but I think they'll be ok this year. Sale fc/sharks have started a team with several ex loo girls, but miles behind prem quality.
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Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

Originally posted by Dad Dad wrote:

Originally posted by pen 15 pen 15 wrote:

Originally posted by Loo fighters Loo fighters wrote:

I know the women are close to the local clubs that have girls teams, plus it's natural for the top talent wanting to play at the top level to be interested to play at Loo, as the only premiership team in the northwest you would expect that.
haven't sale started a snr ladies team ? with premiership ambition and no doubt funding will they soak up local talent?

that's until they flash the cash ,probs end of this season when relegation looks likely and on past performance it doesn't look like they will stay up to be honest.
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Relegation at the end of this year I believe. Good new coaching set up, players in,players out, but I think they'll be ok this year. Sale fc/sharks have started a team with several ex loo girls, but miles behind prem quality.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loo fighters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 18:20
When the tyrells franchise was being sorted, sale (sharks) who didn't have a team btw, attempted to lure the Waterloo ladies to Manchester. But to a woman they all said NO. The club has a vibe with the girls that money won't change, albeit Sarah Beckett who will move to pastures new as a England international player to become a full time professional down south. All at the club wish her well, it's a fantastic opportunity that she couldn't turn down. They have some real talent at loo including Irish, Welsh & Scots international & it won't be long until the next England rose is grown.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camp Freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jul 2019 at 22:19
indeed, but the next English Rose from our neck of the woods will come from West Park, Burnley, Littleborough, Leigh, Southport or perhaps Eccles or LSH.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CalderVale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 07:50
CF cheers for mentioning Burnley defo producing some very talented girls rugby players 3 who been with us 5 - 10 years are now at Loughborough College and signed for Loughborough Lighting, one is already in the Eng U20's at seventeen. So hopefully they will all go on to big things. With the next generation getting ready for next season with 7 girls leave the mixed team this year and start feeding into our girls U13'S. Just a small overview a grass roots club massively supporting girls rugby thought I'd share with you 👍
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camp Freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 08:45
No Worries CV, great to see what is happening. I know the girls (and their parents) as they play rugby both with and against my daughter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2019 at 09:43
I am involved in girls rugby down here in the south - when my just about to start her last yr of U18 girl left mixed (at end of u12 in those days) she (along with 4 others) had a dispensation to play up to u15 which allowed the entire county to field 22 girls and put together a county U15 team (13 a-side then), this September there will be 6 different clubs running u13 girls, 4 running u15 and 2 (maybe 3) running full U18 teams, her team had 2 girls gain England U18 caps last yr, 1 was a girl she played with all the way from U7 tag. Last yr's county trials had 40-50 girls at each of 15 & 18 trial and that was by no means all the girls playing locally. 

In the same time where there was 4 local womens teams there are now 8 (10 if you count the 2 2nd XV)

That is a huge growth in 5 yrs

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Sale fc ladies to play at level 4 in their first season, so quite a while before they challenge for premiership.
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If its a three year cycle then they have timed it perfectly. They may do what Sale FC did and change the team every season from level 9 upwards to gain promotion.

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Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

If its a three year cycle then they have timed it perfectly. They may do what Sale FC did and change the team every season from level 9 upwards to gain promotion.



Was a three yr cycle, this is the last year, promotion/relegation this year. They wanted level 3 but weren't allowed by RFU.
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After promotion / relegation at the end of the coming season will the cycle then be another 3 years ?
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Originally posted by Camp Freddie Camp Freddie wrote:

After promotion / relegation at the end of the coming season will the cycle then be another 3 years ?


Not to my understanding. One up nth/sth play off, replace bottom prem team.. maybe play off. Any team coming up has to match criteria.
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So the second week of pre season begins.From last season were would you want to see the 1st and second team strengthened, on field or off field?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Loo fighters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 11:40
Bill, it has to be on the pitch. The aim has to be top two this year. It's a strong league considering its L6 so it won't be easy for sure. Consistency of selection has blighted us which has lead to inconsistent performance. Stronger squad, better squad both 1s n 2s will see improvement.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Billy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 12:21
With a magic wand what positions. Naturally im impressed with the new 10, his focus is what is standing out at this very early point you can see he has a good temperament too,i dont want sell him to much though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 13:08
Really depends who's left. If we have the exact same 20 or so regulars from last year, then I'd say a reliable injury free 10, a winger, a natural centre a 2nd row and cover for prop. It's a tough question really, but I'm basing that on where we struggled with unavailability etc.
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